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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.18 20:57:00 -
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Ok, pretty much any post I make seems to get Goons hot under the collar, but I'm hoping that this won't degenerate into yet another flamefest.
I'm writing an open ultimatum to Goonfleet to ask them to, once and for all, clean up their act.
One of the huge sadnesses about this 'Great War' is that it could and should have been the greatest, most compelling battle that Eve has EVER seen. It's got all the right ingredients - an age old rivalry, endless twists and turns, and even seizmic changes in our political landscape that see one side, then the other seem in control, and the tide seeming set to turn once again.
Yet rather than being a fascinating clash that once again confirms Eve as, in my view, the greatest online game by miles it's in danger of becoming 'epic' for all the wrong reasons.
Goonfleet have the potential to be an awesome power within Eve, and I'm sure they've got some decent pilots in there, even if they're rarely given the chance to fight effectively and they've sure as hell got the numbers. But the incessant use of noobships and other 'irrelevant' ships simply to create such ridiculous lag that tactics become impossible is ruining what could be some awesome fights. Your allies have more than enough firepower and numbers to win the battle and tbqh your playstyle is hindering rather than helping your cause.
I know that I can sometimes be a controvertial figure (due to my attempts to clean up the forums) and at times I, too, have been guilty of getting overheated on what should be a mature, informative and (at times) amusing addition to our experience of this game. But the odd bit of baiting and ridicule on my part is nothing compared to the juvenile postings, personal attacks, threadnoughts, metagaming and deliberate attempts to aggrevate non-RSF players by references to R/L occurences have SURELY got to stop.
That's why I'm making this open appeal to Goonfleet leadership to FINALLY take action and be accountable for the actions of their members.
This has nothing to do with who is fighting who - I think everyone is loving the pew pew - but it's to do with maturity, respect, and - ultimately - making the game a better place for us all.
And that's why I'm making this ultimatum to Gloomswarm. Please, in all sincerity, clean up your act and we can make this game a better place, and this war the greatest clash an MMO has ever seen.
And if you're wondering, dear Goon leadership, what's in it for you I'll be blunt. If you don't sort yourselves out I'm going to switch to become a Goon fanboi. Just imagine the horror of seeing Windypops posting on your behalf, day in, day out. Serously. Just imagine it...
(PS - I'd also welcome a war dec from Goonfleet. I know those who don't agree with what I say LOVE to call me an alt, but I think you'll find I'm really rather active in game...)
C'mon - enough of the F-U, more of the Pew Pew!!
~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops and the tide seeming set to turn once again.
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Junkie Beverage
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 20:59:00 -
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sweet words dude i love words if there is one thing that i am all about it would have to be words words are where its at and your post certainly has words so your post gets my stamp of approval as it contains words and as i have previously stated i am all about words
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Requiescat
True Foundation R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:00:00 -
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in before threadnought
in before bob one-liners
in before mitnal
good post though, i concur
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DudeManGuyBro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
But the incessant use of noobships and other 'irrelevant' ships simply to create such ridiculous lag that tactics become impossible is ruining what could be some awesome fights.
Nice I like that part
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat good post though, i concur
Its' a troll post, and a very blatant one.
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toto moor
Eve Corporate Enterprise
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Requiescat good post though, i concur
Its' a troll post, and a very blatant one.
But its quite a long troll post doesnt that get Windy some brownie points
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Relaed
Minmatar Shadows of the Dead The Dawn of Darkness
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:03:00 -
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You don't make an ultimatum starting with 'Please'
For too long the Goons have been ruining the game for most of the player base. But then, you shouldn't have expected anything else, that is their stated goal. Screw up eve-online, then move on. But the move-on part never seems to come.
How about this, Goondiots halt all expansion right now, call an armistice for 90 days, and reset standings.
If not, all non Goonswarm players set Goons to red, and attack them from every angle and shove them back down the hole from which they came.
Makes more sense to me.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Requiescat good post though, i concur
Its' a troll post, and a very blatant one.
Quite the opposite. I'm actually trying to take some of the vitriol out of this war. It's an epic fight, and the incessant forum flaming has got a little tired. I'm genuinely suggesting that we cool things down on the forums, and keep it on the battlefield.
~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Hannobaal
Originally by: Requiescat good post though, i concur
Its' a troll post, and a very blatant one.
Quite the opposite. I'm actually trying to take some of the vitriol out of this war. It's an epic fight, and the incessant forum flaming has got a little tired. I'm genuinely suggesting that we cool things down on the forums, and keep it on the battlefield.
You do know that you're actually neither convincing nor funny, right?
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DHB FooFighter
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:15:00 -
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First side to get all their mains and especially alts to stop posting ****, especially **** like this thread, will be the ones who can take the moral high ground.
Until then its pretty much the pot calling the kettle black, to use the old cliche.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
I know that I can sometimes be a controvertial figure (due to my attempts to clean up the forums)
yes this is why you are controvertial
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Vanessa LaiDai
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Vanessa LaiDai on 18/02/2008 21:40:57
Originally by: General Windypops But the incessant use of noobships and other 'irrelevant' ships simply to create such ridiculous lag that tactics become impossible is ruining what could be some awesome fights.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FWDToagK3WE
Also apparently you don't know how we got our first dread kill. And the ones during the XZH campaign.
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Marian Finucane
I threw petrol on the fire and now I have no arms
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:40:00 -
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Havoc GunStar
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops But the incessant use of noobships and other 'irrelevant' ships simply to create such ridiculous lag that tactics become impossible is ruining what could be some awesome fights.
Of course, even BoB's killboard doesn't bear this out.
I have an idea, why don't you look up 'ultimatum'. Nice bait though, asking us to be more serious, in a video game war with people who take themselves too seriously. |
Brobuck
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
But the odd bit of baiting and ridicule on my part is nothing compared to the juvenile postings, personal attacks, threadnoughts, metagaming and deliberate attempts to aggrevate non-RSF players
First off, you may want to rethink that sentence structure. Secondly, who are you to determine what is more hurtful? Maybe that odd bit of baiting and ridicule you do hurts someones feelings more than you know? You seem to imply that even though you're throwing stones at a glass house, your stones are smaller, so the impact less great.
I suggest that by participating in such an act, you make yourself as guilty as the greatest adherent of such tactics. It seems that you don't care to practice what you preach, and are willing to threaten those who won't clean up their act, while you leave dirt and suffering in your wake.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Brobuck
Originally by: General Windypops
But the odd bit of baiting and ridicule on my part is nothing compared to the juvenile postings, personal attacks, threadnoughts, metagaming and deliberate attempts to aggrevate non-RSF players
First off, you may want to rethink that sentence structure. Secondly, who are you to determine what is more hurtful? Maybe that odd bit of baiting and ridicule you do hurts someones feelings more than you know? You seem to imply that even though you're throwing stones at a glass house, your stones are smaller, so the impact less great.
I suggest that by participating in such an act, you make yourself as guilty as the greatest adherent of such tactics. It seems that you don't care to practice what you preach, and are willing to threaten those who won't clean up their act, while you leave dirt and suffering in your wake.
No, I mock people for weak posting and illogical arguments. I don't post mocking comments in threads about r/l deaths.
~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tevlent on 18/02/2008 21:58:26 These useless troll topics are a blatant affront to the ideals that all goonkind take to heart. This cannot stand.
By the way, we do not fly T1 frigs by choice..it is all that we can afford/are skilled to fly.
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Havoc GunStar
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
No, I mock people for weak posting and illogical arguments. I don't post mocking comments in threads about r/l deaths.
Irony, ITT. |
marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: marakor on 18/02/2008 22:03:50
Originally by: Havoc GunStar
Originally by: General Windypops But the incessant use of noobships and other 'irrelevant' ships simply to create such ridiculous lag that tactics become impossible is ruining what could be some awesome fights.
Of course, even BoB's killboard doesn't bear this out.
I have an idea, why don't you look up 'ultimatum'. Nice bait though, asking us to be more serious, in a video game war with people who take themselves too seriously.
So let me get this right?.
1. you built a multi multi thousand member alliance
2. you spammed out of game forums and blackmailed the game creators to get changes to help you take an alliances space
3. you napped most of eve to try to take the same alliances space when you know it cannot be done from your own history
4. you seem to spam this forum everytime you so much as shoot at summat owned by bob
5. you are willing in the future to drop any wars your in to stop this alliance from holding space again
AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE ITS BOB WHO TAKE THEMSELVES AND THE GAME TOO SERIOUSLY
HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve. |
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Natural High
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Natural High on 18/02/2008 22:02:46 Tbh Windy props you try way to hard to get attention to yoursef. If you instead made a post with a link to your main youd get better responses. Atleast Goons have the balls to post with their mains. Also I heard BoB+Co. hates you too so that puts you where exactly? Oh right you have no point nor opinion that matters
Btw Reporting everyone who responds is pretty lame. M main is Orar Ironfist but you got him banned cause you didnt like the truth thrown at ya
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
So let me get this right?.
1. you built a multi multi thousand member alliance
2. you spammed out of game forums and blackmailed the game creators to get changes to help you take an alliances space
3. you napped most of eve to try to the same alliance when you know it cannot be done from your own history
4. you seem to spam this forum everytime you so much as shoot at summat owned by bob
5. you are willing in the future to drop any wars your in to stop this alliance from holding space again
AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE ITS BOB WHO TAKE THEMSELVES AND THE GAME TOO SERIOUSLY
Pretty much, yeah.
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General Windypops
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 18/02/2008 22:06:39 I've never reported a single player in this game or on these forums. I'd like to think that most people's common sense is enough of a moderator.
Nice try though.
BTW - the 'Windy is an alt' claim is getting pretty out of date. Add me to my buddy list or (better still) war dec me - you'll soon find out if I'm an alt or not.
*waves internet fist*
~-= Winner of the COAD Buns of Steel award, 2006 and 2007 =-~
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tevlent
Originally by: marakor
So let me get this right?.
1. you built a multi multi thousand member alliance
2. you spammed out of game forums and blackmailed the game creators to get changes to help you take an alliances space
3. you napped most of eve to try to the same alliance when you know it cannot be done from your own history
4. you seem to spam this forum everytime you so much as shoot at summat owned by bob
5. you are willing in the future to drop any wars your in to stop this alliance from holding space again
AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE ITS BOB WHO TAKE THEMSELVES AND THE GAME TOO SERIOUSLY
Pretty much, yeah.
Considering your a goon it will not upset you to learn that you fail again then will it?.
HEY LISTEN for ruler of eve. |
Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Havoc GunStar
Originally by: General Windypops
No, I mock people for weak posting and illogical arguments. I don't post mocking comments in threads about r/l deaths.
Irony, ITT.
Over nine thousand irony ITT.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Adirawin
Gallente Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Marian Finucane
Nomi Klaus Noooooooooooooooo
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Blinders
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:15:00 -
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Forum Quality Control Engineer Junior Grade Windypops is getting Goons hot under the collar with yet another controvertial post.
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Havoc GunStar
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
So let me get this right?.
1. you built a multi multi thousand member alliance
Well, our corp was tipping well over 1000 before any of this started, but yes. We have allied with a LOT of people who seem to all have pretty much the same goals. Don't look at us, maybe BoB should make fewer enemies.
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2. you spammed out of game forums and blackmailed the game creators to get changes to help you take an alliances space
Incorrect, but nice smear.
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3. you napped most of eve to try to take the same alliances space when you know it cannot be done from your own history
We get by with a little help from our FRIENDS. You know, as opposed to SLAVES.
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4. you seem to spam this forum everytime you so much as shoot at summat owned by bob
I've made about 8 posts in 6 months. Is that really spam? Yes, there are a lot of us. We are a big community. If we all tried to post, the forum software here would be in big trouble.
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5. you are willing in the future to drop any wars your in to stop this alliance from holding space again
Maybe. If the directors say so, sure. Are you one of our directors? Have we always been at war with Eurasia today? Will we always be at war with Oceana tomorrow? Who knows! \/ That's part of the fun of the game.
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AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE ITS BOB WHO TAKE THEMSELVES AND THE GAME TOO SERIOUSLY
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:19:00 -
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Well I'm convinced.
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Yuki Nagato
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.18 22:19:00 -
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Wait, no I'm not.
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