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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.02.22 23:26:00 -
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I dont know what the contents ofthe last two patches but they have ROYALY SCREWED the stability of the client.
Prior to the two most recent patches I would have only 1 or 2 disconnects per month...
Now... I get multiple client failures per day, massive lag and serious glitches in the overview.
I know there is a love of nerfing features... but can CCP PLEASE not nerf the god damn CLIENT!
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Kuar Z'thain
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 23:29:00 -
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So what have you done to try and resolve this?
Have you reinstalled the full client?
Have you petitioned any repeatable bugs?
Have you dumped your cache folder?
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Alowishus
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 23:32:00 -
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pwnt.
/makes fart noise
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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.02.23 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kuar Z'thain So what have you done to try and resolve this?
Have you reinstalled the full client?
Have you petitioned any repeatable bugs?
Have you dumped your cache folder?
All of the above as well as disabling any extraenous services on my PC and setting the client to have real time priority to ensure sufficient resources to the client.
So Kuar... you seem to have all the quick easy answers... what's next?
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2008.02.23 00:47:00 -
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umm, you're increasing the client's priority?!
AFAIK, no program exists that requires manual assigning of priority, and in fact, most programs actually suffer stability-wise due to such. -
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Orgos Khenn
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.02.23 01:07:00 -
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OP has a valid point. Let's undo everything just so it works for one person. ---- One day...one day General will be worth reading.
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Damage over Time Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2008.02.23 01:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vespa Orebane what's next?
Wait for the answer to the petition?
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eWrath
Caldari Revenent Defence Corperation The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2008.02.23 01:30:00 -
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Assigning "Realtime" priority to any program would drain the processor(s) dry, leaving no room for the kernel/drivers to function properly (stuff like the network stack/sound drivers/input synchronization, and maybe graphics, although nowadays all display adapters handle all the work through their on-board GPUs), so, as you can see, setting any application to "realtime" priority has the opposite effect on the client's/system-wide performance..
You shouldn't be tampering with the priorities manually, although in extreme cases, you are forced to do that (for example, with poor sound cards that depend on the CPU to process sound data through software drivers, leading to poor performance overall), for that case, it might be better to set the client to a higher priority to increase performance, yet the highest priority you should set is "high", "realtime" is just asking for trouble..
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vespa Orebane ...setting the client to have real time priority to ensure sufficient resources to the client.
Uhm, that's a very bad idea. Set it to normal.
Setting it to real-time means none of the background processes in your OS will run and that will lead to your system becoming slow and/or unstable.
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Nigal Tufnel
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:56:00 -
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Agree with the OP. Terrible performance since last patch. DCing all the time.
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Elyssa Spacebread
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:57:00 -
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unrelated to the patches there have been some connectivity issues from some countries like germany where people get dropped pretty often and they are trying to find a solution to it.
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Ernesto Hoost
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Posted - 2008.02.23 03:08:00 -
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Quite likely to be proxy related rather than client build.
The load balancing needs some tinkering. I can be on vent with around 20people, and 10 ask if the server just crashed while the rest are running fine.
Geographical location seems to be the problem, and this is something CCP are aware of.
Rollback wouldn't change it.
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Elyssa Spacebread
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.02.23 03:12:00 -
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just like i said
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.02.23 04:13:00 -
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Ask your isp to rollback on its bandwith/packet limiting 'performance' incentives.
Originally by: MM0RPG EVE Review "if you aren't my friend you are my income."
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.23 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari umm, you're increasing the client's priority?!
AFAIK, no program exists that requires manual assigning of priority, and in fact, most programs actually suffer stability-wise due to such.
You must be new to Eve. Before Trinity, when running two accounts, setting the priority to Low was a recommended, by CCP, way to make the game more stable. It worked great too.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Atomos Darksun
Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2008.02.23 05:03:00 -
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No problems whatsoever.
Tech support is
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that way. ----- They've gone to PLAID!!
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.02.23 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vespa Orebane I dont know what the contents ofthe last two patches but they have ROYALY SCREWED the stability of the client.
Prior to the two most recent patches I would have only 1 or 2 disconnects per month...
Now... I get multiple client failures per day, massive lag and serious glitches in the overview.
I know there is a love of nerfing features... but can CCP PLEASE not nerf the god damn CLIENT!
why do you assume that everyone else is having the same problem. try reinstalling your own client, cleaning cache, petitioning for the the GMs to give you ideas what might be wrong whit YOUR client.
i havent had problems whit mine since i dont know when ---------------------------------- This is Me |
Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.02.23 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: eWrath Assigning "Realtime" priority to any program would drain the processor(s) dry, leaving no room for the kernel/drivers to function properly (stuff like the network stack/sound drivers/input synchronization, and maybe graphics, although nowadays all display adapters handle all the work through their on-board GPUs), so, as you can see, setting any application to "realtime" priority has the opposite effect on the client's/system-wide performance..
You shouldn't be tampering with the priorities manually, although in extreme cases, you are forced to do that (for example, with poor sound cards that depend on the CPU to process sound data through software drivers, leading to poor performance overall), for that case, it might be better to set the client to a higher priority to increase performance, yet the highest priority you should set is "high", "realtime" is just asking for trouble..
Why would someone set priority to realtime when CCP used to tell people to set priority to low for more stability? Thats the opposite, is it not?
Originally by: CCP kieron ISK buying is a major contributor to the inflation in EVE's economy.
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Sonisi
Amarr Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2008.02.23 08:17:00 -
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Where are you from Vespa?
I don't know if its a country thing (Australia here) or not but after the last patch eve has suddenly become near unplayable with disconnects for me.
It was fine before the patch and thats the only thing that has changed (connection etc are all the same).
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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.02.23 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
why do you assume that everyone else is having the same problem. try reinstalling your own client, cleaning cache, petitioning for the the GMs to give you ideas what might be wrong whit YOUR client.
i havent had problems whit mine since i dont know when
I can see you didnt read the thread...
as to the assigning of resource priority... Set it to normal, no difference just as bad as when set to high. Set it to low, same appalling performance and random frequent client failures.
Next suggestion...
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.02.23 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Vespa Orebane
Originally by: Riho
why do you assume that everyone else is having the same problem. try reinstalling your own client, cleaning cache, petitioning for the the GMs to give you ideas what might be wrong whit YOUR client.
i havent had problems whit mine since i dont know when
I can see you didnt read the thread...
as to the assigning of resource priority... Set it to normal, no difference just as bad as when set to high. Set it to low, same appalling performance and random frequent client failures.
Next suggestion...
as you havent read the other replys... dont play whit prioritys... you will cause more problems to your computer than you get any good out of it.
and as far as i can tell you havent petitioned.... so you havent take all of my advice.
mybe its your regional problems. like some have pointed out that german players might experiance problems playing eve.
just petition and see what the GMs have to say. ---------------------------------- This is Me |
Vested Interest
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Posted - 2008.02.23 10:03:00 -
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Lots more disconnects due to desync in the past 2 weeks than the previous 2 months. Comments from corpies, situated globally, indicate the same.
When 4 clients regularly lag out simultaneously in 4 different regions, and half of the corp disappears too, CCP needs to be looking into the causes.
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phobiasa
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Posted - 2008.02.23 10:26:00 -
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i have constant connection problem since 1.03 path,The Server disconnects me at an average of every 3-5 minutes with the message - Server Connection Lost. it is very annoying, not sure what else to do
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.23 10:35:00 -
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my ISP is to blame for 100% of the disonnects in the last 2 months I know because i lose connection with the isp itself.
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Jakus Cemendur
Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.02.23 11:36:00 -
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I have also started to get regular disconnects at certain times of the day, mostly off-peak. This has only been happening since the latest patch.
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Vespa Orebane
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Posted - 2008.02.23 12:42:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
as you havent read the other replys... dont play whit prioritys... you will cause more problems to your computer than you get any good out of it.
and as far as i can tell you havent petitioned.... so you havent take all of my advice.
mybe its your regional problems. like some have pointed out that german players might experiance problems playing eve.
just petition and see what the GMs have to say.
You base this wisdom on what experience? I have been working in the IT industry since the Win95 days and my experience has been contary to your advice.
In many circumstances I have experienced better performance of an application when the issues have been due to local resourcing problems.
The reason for doing this is to remove the local system's settings from the equation when trouble shooting. Once you have eliminated local problems the only place the problem can be attributed is to the changes in the client.
Let me ask you a question Riho... Do you work for CCP? Are you one of the Dev team? And what is your background in systems support? |
Deira Lenia
The Chaotic Order Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.02.23 12:56:00 -
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Mwah, I'm fairly sure that setting resource allocation to "realtime" does indeed f'k-up anything else that is supposed to run from the same resources.
Realtime practicaly means that any of it's needs are not boxed in. If a application needs more resources, it will give it. With large effects to applications running in the background.
If i set Eve to "realtime", my sound dies, Teamspeak fails to obey to any commands. And worst of all. My internet browser is unable to find CAOD! -- Real men corpse tank Fallout Project Forums The Chaotic Order Forums |
Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.02.23 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Agil TradeAlt on 23/02/2008 16:37:40
Originally by: Deira Lenia Mwah, I'm fairly sure that setting resource allocation to "realtime" does indeed f'k-up anything else that is supposed to run from the same resources.
Realtime practicaly means that any of it's needs are not boxed in. If a application needs more resources, it will give it. With large effects to applications running in the background.
If i set Eve to "realtime", my sound dies, Teamspeak fails to obey to any commands. And worst of all. My internet browser is unable to find CAOD!
Do you even read this thread?????
CCP used to say put priority to low to see if that improves system stability. The only person who says realtime (which is the HIGHIST OF THE HIGH) is you. LOL
Originally by: CCP kieron ISK buying is a major contributor to the inflation in EVE's economy.
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