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JamesTalon
Caldari Electric Fury Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Fenren
Originally by: Chirruper
Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Originally by: RaTTuS wow wins
I'd call it a draw.
fixed
it is truly a draw!
add the result of "world of warcraft sucks" to that and you get it to 16 vs 16... a true draw!
Make it eve-online instead of eve, and look at the results :) "Till shade is gone, till water is gone, into the Shadow with teeth bared, screaming defiance with the last breath, to spit in Sightblinder’s eye on the Last Day." - Robert Jordan |
Daelin Blackleaf
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:47:00 -
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Anybody not realizing just why "eve sucks" has so many more results is far too innocent for these forums.
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Khu'ra
Minmatar JET FORCE Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:51:00 -
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I had a lvl 70 gnome mage in WoW, and I have to say that WoW and EVE aren't really comparable. They only similarity is that they're both MMOs, other than that they're completely different types of games. ---- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Addams |
Khu'ra
Minmatar JET FORCE Fang Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Anybody not realizing just why "eve sucks" has so many more results is far too innocent for these forums.
If you put it that way, I'm sure "Wow sucks!" would have a lot of results too. ---- In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. - The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Addams |
Turzyx
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:58:00 -
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WoW's main aspect is raiding. Feel free to disagree, but nearly all of the main storylines and characters begin and end in a 25, or 40 man instance.
Anyone who thinks the higher end of these are easy to complete are sorely mistaken - proved by the fact that even now very few people have done so. The PVE encounters are tuned very well to pose a relative challenge to even the most experienced player, and require near 100% attention.
EVE's main aspect is arguably one of two things: PVP or Industry, I haven't quite decided which since the industry part seems to be a means to an end, often like it's the 'supporting role' in the PVP part of the game.
EVE PvP is just as unforgiving as WoW's PVE - one mistake and you lose time, money, and get a lot of grief to get to the same level again.
EVE has loads of systems (areas), WoW has a lot less but at least they all look different, and have their own unique backstory and inhabitants.
WoW's best aspect - It actually 'feels' like an alternate reality, it's very immersive. WoW's main problem - It's main aspect of the game gets boring very quickly upon completion.
EVE's best aspect - The ability to do whatever the hell you like, when you like. EVE's main problem - Not enough variety.
WoW = Fantastic EVE = Realistic
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KarGard
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:10:00 -
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Every time someone says that Eve players are smarter than WoW players, a kitten dies from sheer irony overload.
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Everyone Dies
Caldari Lucky Tampon
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Everyone Dies on 05/03/2008 20:13:38 EVE is played by a very complex and intelligent community.
WoW = Idiots and 10 year-olds
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Korran Minare
Gallente Spaced Cowboys
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:15:00 -
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i play both tbh and recently i started down the training path to pilot a Deimos which will take rougly 2 months or so to complete, so i figured while some of my longer skills trained id catch up on some WoW, this was at the begining of the week, somehow i still havent managed to get into WoW and have spent the last couple nights mining to pay for the HAC skillbook ill need.
i get bored very easily with WoW, but with EvE even sitting in a station isnt boring, its weird
Originally by: Korran Minare what would you put on space pizza anyway????
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Turzyx
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Everyone Dies Edited by: Everyone Dies on 05/03/2008 20:13:38 EVE is played by a very complex and intelligent community.
WoW = Idiots and 10 year-olds
It's a shame that your second statement is almost a complete contradiction to the first.
In addition, the fact that the only vocabulary and evidence you use to prove your argument is based on pure fabrication says more about you than it does about WoW players.
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: KarGard Every time someone says that Eve players are smarter than WoW players, a kitten dies from sheer irony overload.
This.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente Neth's Workshop
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:35:00 -
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I play both aswell.. EVE is a sandbox mmo and I like it for that reason.. But when it comes to grind I'd say EVE is alot worse if you grind missions for isk, I make money from graphics submissions though, otherwise I wouldn't still be playing.. It's an interesting game with an interesting world, economy and community and everything that goes on.. But you have to put in alot of effort yourself to truly enjoy it.
WoW can barely be called an mmo though, the world isn't interesting in the same aspect as in EVE, I don't really care what certain Guilds in WoW do or anything else that happens in the gameworld. It's more of a arcade-rpg and I like rpgs and the combat is pretty entertaining because you keep mashing buttons which is always fun (yes, hack and slash is fun :P).. I also like the class I'm playing and playing with people I know.. It's also a very easy game to just sit down and play for a few hours, there's always something to do.
I'm playing WoW pretty casually at the moment, just waiting for the next patch and the expansion after that so I can experience some more content..
When It comes to EVE I'm just training skills at the moment, I don't really have time or motivation to get into a Corp and do some interesting stuff like PvP..
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Raijin Iyo
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:06:00 -
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Having played WoW extensively before the expansion, i can say that it actually isnt all that different from EVE. I prefer the solo experience in WoW to that in EVE, but feel that the corporation experience is better than the guild experience. That said, the guild experience in WoW can be very satisfying. For some time I was in an organized guild with friends from real life, and we had a blast experiencing the end-game instances together.
They are different games. Both have their communities of good players and both have their communities of idiots. I guess the best thing about EVE is that it really is whatever you want it to be. The players shape the world of EVE far more than the players shape WoW. Conversely, the best thing about WoW is that it is exactly what the developers have made it, and they have done a pretty darn good job.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:08:00 -
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WoW is instant gratification and easy to play casually. EVE is zzzzz waiting and huge penalties for dieing.
WoW is more fun because there's nothing else attached; EVE is more exciting because killing someone actually means taking away their hours of hard work making ISK and you get a big rush (or sinking feeling when you lose a ship worth weeks of ISK).
Both are incredibly grindy. Getting EXP/Items is the same doing the same mission over and over, mining, playing 0.1 ISK games, transporting and manufacturing stuff, etc. Alliance PvP is essentially grinding down the other team's ISK/Ships to force them to abandon their space.
Both are good games in their own right.
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Jaketh Ivanes
Amarr Do Or Die And Live Or Try The Kano Organisation
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:19:00 -
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WoW is PvE mainly. Good for the more casual group work. You can't really lose, as long as you can figure out who to work with people.
EvE is PvP mainly. Good for people who likes to be challanged by other people. In EvE you can lose a lot, even though you work well with people.
There really isn't much to compare about EvE and WoW, but there are a lot of differances between them. I like both, like the instant "Let's go the dungeon Abominal and kill stuff", but when in a fleet in EvE your heart pounds like nothing else.
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf Anybody not realizing just why "eve sucks" has so many more results is far too innocent for these forums.
I just decided to actually search it. I don't discriminate; I keep safe search off.
Oddly enough, the most common phrase is usually "working on new years eve sucks"
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Stern Maxwell
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:36:00 -
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I played EVE for awhile after SWG died, and quit, tried a few other mmo's, was not happy at all. Then I tried WoW, it was a blast, but only for a few months. I made it to lvl 52 with my main, sure I didn't see high end content, but I saw a lot of the game. I don't remember the server type, but PvP was great. Green zones enemies couldn't attack, but you could, yellow was free for all zone, and red was you couldn't attack, but enemies could. 75% of the world was yellow, so there was always fighting going on. It could get annoying sometimes, but it was a lot of fun too. But WoW got boring, and everyone I knew pretty much left it, and so did I.
I'm back with EVE again (thanks a lot to Trinity) so guess which MMO I think is better. ___________________________________________
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Shin Ra
Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:42:00 -
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Pong > EVE > WoW
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:52:00 -
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both are totally different, both are excellent games. like it or not.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Shinra SHINRA Pong > EVE > WoW
Well that's just cheating
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Chirruper
Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Originally by: RaTTuS wow wins
I'd call it a draw.
fixed
fixed some more
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:13:00 -
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I was curious about if anyone here has eaten apples extensively and how they compare as a fruit to oranges?
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
fixed some more
the true winner
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Ikasu
Gallente Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:15:00 -
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Sorry: http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Sex&word2=World+of+Warcraft -------------------------------------------------- My post does not represent views of my Alliance.
Eve is different, in Eve there are actual Heroes and Villains. Build your Legacy! |
Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Stern Maxwell Edited by: Stern Maxwell on 05/03/2008 21:54:46 I played EVE for awhile after SWG died and loved EVE, quit eventually, tried a few other mmo's, was not happy at all. Then I tried WoW, it was a blast, but only for a few months. I made it to lvl 52 with my main, sure I didn't see high end content, but I saw a lot of the game. I don't remember the server type, but PvP was great. Green zones enemies couldn't attack, but you could, yellow was free for all zone, and red was you couldn't attack, but enemies could. 75% of the world was yellow, so there was always fighting going on. It could get annoying sometimes, but it was a lot of fun too. But WoW got boring, and everyone I knew pretty much left it, and so did I.
I'm back with EVE again (thanks a lot to Trinity) so guess which MMO I think is better.
You didn't really see "a lot of the game" at level 52, IMO. I think that's one of the main problems with WoW. Because of the way it is designed, there is barely anything to do before you reach max level. That's where everybody is, and that's where the good gear and challenging encounters are. That's why there is such an emphasis on leveling. In WoW the best way to enjoy the game is to reach the top asap so you can either raid or just group up with the rest of the active playerbase. And it's generally a lonely grind to get there.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Naqam
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Chirruper
Originally by: Rawr Cristina
fixed some more
the true winner
Guild wars? Come again?
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Chirruper
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina
Guild wars? Come again?
Oh yeah?
LETHAL DEATH BLOW OF SHAME
google fight is fun
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Phasics
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:32:00 -
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EVE Online 5 Newbs in T1 crusiers will have a good chance vs a PvP Vet in the best Faction Fitted Crusier with best mods in a standup fight
WoW 50 Newbs have 0 chance aginst a veteran PvP lv70. In fact I dont think the game even lets those fights happen if I'm not mistaken ?
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Phasics EVE Online 5 Newbs in T1 crusiers will have a good chance vs a PvP Vet in the best Faction Fitted Crusier with best mods in a standup fight
WoW 50 Newbs have 0 chance aginst a veteran PvP lv70. In fact I dont think the game even lets those fights happen if I'm not mistaken ?
Nonsense. I took my max level druid into the Gnome spawning grounds and after awhile they formed up a raid and killed me. It was great fun for all.
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Munen
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:00:00 -
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This is an incomplete post for my tastes but I have to admit Victor Forge (in the thread about why high sec stays out of 0.0) identified one of the major basic differences between these two games.
Quote: The end-game in Eve is 0.0 and lowsec pvp, endgame in WoW is PvE raiding. So why are are so many EvE-players Empire huggers and why are so many WoW players pvpers?
Answer is both the same, pve in EvE is casual friendly, pvp in WoW is casual friendly. PvP gear in WoW is refered to as "well-fare" epics by raiders. In EvE pvpers says that pve, such as mission running in high-sec, is too profitable.
However raiding in WoW since TBC has become very costly and not just in time, the result is that WoW is stagnating since casuals are getting bored since they will never experience a big part of that game, but those that stays are doing pvp. The result has among other thing lead to an influx of ex-WoW players to EvE.
In EvE it is the pvp that is costly and the most casual friendly part of the game is high-sec mission running or doing high-sec mining.
To cover the losses of ships and implants many of the low / 0.0 sec people have more than 1 account. But there are few losses in pve encounters of ships and you are not losing implants.
It is not about players being carebears. As has been pointed out by some posters, there are actually carebears in 0.0 sec as well.
It is about casual players. Trying to starve high-sec to force them out in low-sec to be targets, will result in casuals leaving the game.
The overwhelming majority of empire players are indeed not crippled by fear or ignorance, they are just casuals, that log in for 1-3 hours when they play and will never ever buy a second account.
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Raven Evermore
Gallente Lonestalker
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:45:00 -
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I play wow every so often, i just get a little bored so i quit then pick it up again a few months later, then realise why i stopped. still i like the story and i like the atmosphere, just too much walk here, whack, walk back have an item you cant use now go whack something else.
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