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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: CrimsonLobo on 05/03/2008 18:58:46 Well its been a long time since i last had the joys of playing EVE.
I have used all the search buttons and etc. But havent been able to find anything relevant, i have picked up a few general pointers but nothing specific.
So i am here asking again, what are you guys using with success?
Cheers in advance.
Oh ill also add a Thorax setup to the list =).
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:12:00 -
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Chribba should start paying me, sigh.
EVE SEARCH (use this)
Crow:
High: 3 x Arbalest standard missile launchers, CN Bloodclaws
Mid: 1 x 1mn MWD II 1 x Scram II 1 x named Web or 1 x Cap Charger II
Low: 2 x OD II 1 x Nano II
Rigs:
Auxiliary Thruster Units if your poor , Polycarbon Engine Housings if your rich 
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:23:00 -
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Ah cheers, so it has moved on too standards now. well that was a waste of rocket spec!
Lol, but sort of what i figured it would be.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: CrimsonLobo Ah cheers, so it has moved on too standards now. well that was a waste of rocket spec!
Lol, but sort of what i figured it would be.
Yeah, the tech 2 scram has a range of 24km, so you want to have something that is hitting at that range, bit too far for rockets. Besides, in order to hit with rockets you would have to get inside web and neut range which is a huge interceptor NO NO! 
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 19:29:00 -
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Ahh, yeah well, i was thinking in terms of sort Inty duals and the like, i used to love running up and down the pipe in the old days when plate Crows where all the rage. But times change all the time =(.
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Rick Thwaites
Caritas.
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:37:00 -
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I use the following setup to great success.
Hi: 3x Standards (use whichever you are most comfortable with, unless you have fitting issues, then use named)
Mids: 1x 1mn MWD II 1x Warp Disruptor II (24km range) 1x micro cap injector (use Cap Booster 50s)
Lows: 2x Overdrive Injector System II 1x Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Rigs: I haven't had the chance to play with these to any great effect, but I would go aux thrusters or polycarbs (could mix them if you were feeling frisky).
This setup, with faction bloodclaw likes to eat anything cruiser or smaller, solo. I've eaten Hyenas, Sentinels, other interceptors, etc. Once fought 1x Sentinel, 1x Taranis and 2x rifters, and I didn't have anything to worry about. = D. --
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:52:00 -
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That setup sounds really interesting, might have to give it a try at some point.
Are tech 2 standards really worth it, orrrr? Arby's do the job etc?
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: CrimsonLobo That setup sounds really interesting, might have to give it a try at some point.
Are tech 2 standards really worth it, orrrr? Arby's do the job etc?
Tech 2 have difficult fitting requirements on a Crow - not to mention the tech 2 precision missiles would slow you down...
Arbalest is just about as good (costs a fortune more though).
If you have AWU 5 though, they provide a slight damage boost. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: Haradgrim on 05/03/2008 21:06:49
Originally by: Rick Thwaites I use the following setup to great success.
Hi: 3x Standards (use whichever you are most comfortable with, unless you have fitting issues, then use named)
Mids: 1x 1mn MWD II 1x Warp Disruptor II (24km range) 1x micro cap injector (use Cap Booster 50s)
Lows: 2x Overdrive Injector System II 1x Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Rigs: I haven't had the chance to play with these to any great effect, but I would go aux thrusters or polycarbs (could mix them if you were feeling frisky).
This setup, with faction bloodclaw likes to eat anything cruiser or smaller, solo. I've eaten Hyenas, Sentinels, other interceptors, etc. Once fought 1x Sentinel, 1x Taranis and 2x rifters, and I didn't have anything to worry about. = D.
I thought micro cap injectors are no longer available, C/D?
Also, I would say Arbalest over SML IIs just because of the fitting. Your best bet in all situations is faction ammo so you don't need to use them for that reason, but the slight damage bonus is worth it if you can make 'em fit. 
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:12:00 -
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I have AWU5, but yeah was wondering because i just saw the price of Arby's today i was a bit WTF about them, lol.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:15:00 -
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Because of their comparitively low fitting requirements and the fact that they are stat-wise the equal of tech 2 (obviously you don't get the skill based dmg bonus though). They really are worth it though, however, if you have AWU V, and can fit the t2s no prob, go for it.
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:18:00 -
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Yeah, i have been leaving EVE on the back burner for ages.
The last time i played properly it was all about plate Crows, lol. Got to love them days.
But now, i need to re-intergrate myself into the game, find an ISK making scheme i am happy with.
Then i think for fun i will fly around in a Crow for the rest of my days killing things =).
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Zhecao Vai
Free Lapland The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:33:00 -
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Hey Crimson, the good news is rocket Crows are pretty much the same as they used to be, so feel free to fly one if that tickles your fancy. Plus, Crows are cheaper, so it's not awful to be suicidal in one.
But the better news is that since a couple patches ago, the Malediction (Amarr tier 1 interceptor) got an overhaul as a focused rocket ship. You'll find that a rocket Malediction is pretty much like a rocket Crow but cheaper and with better ship bonuses for the role (it even gets an armor resist bonus for your plate!) I recommend one if you like rocket Crows.
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:39:00 -
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Oh rly, ill look into that, sounds really interesting. But that would mean training Amarr frig V =.=
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari United Society Starfleet
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Posted - 2008.03.05 21:59:00 -
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3x t2 standard t2 150mm ac t2 mwd/scram/web 2x od(nano/od)pdu2 2x poly(aux rigs)
can perma run mwd/scram and the extra dps from the ac makes a difference if you find yourslef vs another similar crow setup since almost everybody else fits a salvager
if your just looking for cetpor duals mwd/web/t2 med extender od/2x mapc 2x poly(aux) high same as above can surpise other ceptors
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.05 22:20:00 -
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Out of interest what sort of speeds are you lot getting out of it?
I am too poor to afford snakes and expensive rigs =(.
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari United Society Starfleet
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Posted - 2008.03.06 04:21:00 -
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i'm getting 6300m/s about with aux thruser rigs(7m each) and 0 implants accel ctrl 5, t2 mwd,
with rogues and polycarbs 8500m/s thats with my above fit you could go faster with 3 speed mods but the pdus extra cap/shields seems better to me
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Syniztur
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.06 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Omarvelous Tech 2 have difficult fitting requirements on a Crow - not to mention the tech 2 precision missiles would slow you down...
Arbalest is just about as good (costs a fortune more though).
If you have AWU 5 though, they provide a slight damage boost.
Hold on just one second: Advanced Weapon Upgrades -- Reduces the powergrid needs of weapon turrets and launchers by 2% per skill level Please show me where it says anything about a damage boost.
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KISOGOKU
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Posted - 2008.03.06 05:45:00 -
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D ,Some lucky players still have micro cap boosters from old days .You can find on market some
Originally by: Haradgrim
I thought micro cap injectors are no longer available, C/D?
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xHalcyonx
Amarr Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.03.06 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: Syniztur
Originally by: Omarvelous Tech 2 have difficult fitting requirements on a Crow - not to mention the tech 2 precision missiles would slow you down...
Arbalest is just about as good (costs a fortune more though).
If you have AWU 5 though, they provide a slight damage boost.
Hold on just one second: Advanced Weapon Upgrades -- Reduces the powergrid needs of weapon turrets and launchers by 2% per skill level Please show me where it says anything about a damage boost.
He was referring to fitting T2 standard missile launcers versus 'Arbalest' standard launchers on his Crow.
The former of which can only be fitted with AWU V and thus indirectly affects DPS a small bit due to the specialization skill. ------------------- ნỊs uʍop əpỊsdn Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! |
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:09:00 -
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Well, i fitted the really cheap rigs on one of them to give it a go. I ended up getting nearly 6700m/s, so thats not too bad then =/.
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Caligulus
Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2008.03.06 09:43:00 -
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I'd suggest investigating the "overheating" skill. Overheating your MWD will give you a 50% increase in MWD speed which is substantial on an interceptor. It's far from maintainable for any extended time but getting those extra few km/sec can make a huge difference.
Max Nav skills and one 5% speed implant with no polycarb rigs you should be able to peak at over 10800m/sec with a tech 2 loadout and overheating. ------------------------------------------------- **** You're out of your mind!
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Syniztur
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.06 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: xHalcyonx
Originally by: Syniztur
Originally by: Omarvelous Tech 2 have difficult fitting requirements on a Crow - not to mention the tech 2 precision missiles would slow you down...
Arbalest is just about as good (costs a fortune more though).
If you have AWU 5 though, they provide a slight damage boost.
Hold on just one second: Advanced Weapon Upgrades -- Reduces the powergrid needs of weapon turrets and launchers by 2% per skill level Please show me where it says anything about a damage boost.
He was referring to fitting T2 standard missile launcers versus 'Arbalest' standard launchers on his Crow.
The former of which can only be fitted with AWU V and thus indirectly affects DPS a small bit due to the specialization skill.
Ahh.. yup. I didn't pick up that reference to the Arbalest. The little bit of extra dps from the t2 are nice btw... though I don't use launcher ships anymore.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.06 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Syniztur
Originally by: xHalcyonx
Originally by: Syniztur
Originally by: Omarvelous Tech 2 have difficult fitting requirements on a Crow - not to mention the tech 2 precision missiles would slow you down...
Arbalest is just about as good (costs a fortune more though).
If you have AWU 5 though, they provide a slight damage boost.
Hold on just one second: Advanced Weapon Upgrades -- Reduces the powergrid needs of weapon turrets and launchers by 2% per skill level Please show me where it says anything about a damage boost.
He was referring to fitting T2 standard missile launcers versus 'Arbalest' standard launchers on his Crow.
The former of which can only be fitted with AWU V and thus indirectly affects DPS a small bit due to the specialization skill.
Ahh.. yup. I didn't pick up that reference to the Arbalest. The little bit of extra dps from the t2 are nice btw... though I don't use launcher ships anymore.
Yeah as was pointed out I meant AWU V allows you to use tech 2 launchers with their respective specialization bonus. If you don't have AWU V you shell out big time money on the arbalest launchers.
I personally think its foolish to spend tens of millions on launchers to get a couple extra dps, since dps is NOT the role of the interceptor. I would gladly spend tens of millions more to get extra speed on a Crow (polycarbons).
On my Crow since I don't have AWU V, I have 2 standard launcher II's and 1 second best named standard launcher. You NEVER use tech 2 ammo on a missile crow (slows you down which is terrible) - so I'm actually getting more DPS than a 3 arbalest launcher setup and for a fraction of the price!
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.06 19:58:00 -
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Edited by: CrimsonLobo on 06/03/2008 20:00:48 Well, i ended up going for the Arby set up, just because i can afford it at this moment in time.
Cheers for the help people.
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Drake Megrim
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Posted - 2008.03.06 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Drake Megrim on 06/03/2008 20:11:17 Highs: One Arby and 2 t2 standard missle launchers (w/ caldari navy bloodclaw missles) Mids: 1MN MWD t2, 24km scram, caprecharger II Lows: 2 OD II's and a Nano II
Rigs: Low Friction Nozzle Joints
I chose thise rigs since they were cheaper then Polycarbs and don't have a stacking penalty with OD's like the thrusters too. I have a max speed of about 6.3km/sec and an orbiting speed of 5.6km/sec @ 20km. Works like a charm and loads of fun to fly.
-edit- I only have AWU IV so that is why I need that one arby. I like the t2's to keep cost down and the extra damage is always a plus.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.03.06 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: CrimsonLobo Edited by: CrimsonLobo on 06/03/2008 20:00:48 Well, i ended up going for the Arby set up, just because i can afford it at this moment in time.
Cheers for the help people.
You will be glad, thats a great ship and SMLs really make it shine (especially with faction kinetic missiles). You might want to consider Auxiliary thruster rigs, pushes the speed up to about 7-7.5 kps with a decent setup/skills and they arent very expensive.
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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CrimsonLobo
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.03.06 20:51:00 -
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Yeah, all i have to do now, is test it out  .
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