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Dilaro thagriin
Brothers Intensive Fighting Team Air
30
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Posted - 2012.02.21 20:20:00 -
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'All that is required for evil to flourish is that good men stand aside and do nothing'
These are words I have lived by. Words I have tried to spread to the cluster. When nation returned, I made a heartfelt plea to you people, the 'elite' of this cluster.
Now i watch as you allow Nation to spend weeks at a time in occupation of our space. Some would despair, some would grow angry. I have chosen neither of these responses.
Until now.
At 07:35 today i recieved word that the last surviving member of my family died from Vitoxin poisoning. Her Ammatar holder claims a lack of responsibility for her not recieving either Insorum or Vitoc to negate the effects of this poison.
i believed that the people of this cluster could be just. that our differences could be reconciled. No longer.
i believed that the capsuleers of this cluster WANTED to end the threat of Nation. No longer.
I believed that we deserved to exist in this place, that contrary to all the signs, as a people, we deserved a chance to redeem ourselves.
Now? I want nothing more than to see this cluster BURN.
Perhaps it is just shock and anger talking, perhaps it is not, but I no longer care. It is time that all were held to account for their actions. Justice and peace, the hope of so many, can be brought to all.
And so it shall be.
Signing off. - Dilaro |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
182
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Posted - 2012.02.21 20:30:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:
Now? I want nothing more than to see this cluster BURN.
Now we're talking.
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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
172
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Posted - 2012.02.21 21:31:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:'All that is required for evil to flourish is that good men stand aside and do nothing'
These are words I have lived by. Words I have tried to spread to the cluster. When nation returned, I made a heartfelt plea to you people, the 'elite' of this cluster.
Now i watch as you allow Nation to spend weeks at a time in occupation of our space. Some would despair, some would grow angry. I have chosen neither of these responses.
Until now.
At 07:35 today i recieved word that the last surviving member of my family died from Vitoxin poisoning. Her Ammatar holder claims a lack of responsibility for her not recieving either Insorum or Vitoc to negate the effects of this poison.
i believed that the people of this cluster could be just. that our differences could be reconciled. No longer.
i believed that the capsuleers of this cluster WANTED to end the threat of Nation. No longer.
I believed that we deserved to exist in this place, that contrary to all the signs, as a people, we deserved a chance to redeem ourselves.
Now? I want nothing more than to see this cluster BURN.
Perhaps it is just shock and anger talking, perhaps it is not, but I no longer care. It is time that all were held to account for their actions. Justice and peace, the hope of so many, can be brought to all.
And so it shall be.
Signing off. - Dilaro
I am sorry for your loss.
Perhaps you were mistaken in fighting Nation in the first place. How you feel now is remarkably like how I felt immediately prior to casting my lot with them.
People treat freedom like it is a right. At best, it was a privledge, and its one that by and large has proven to be dangerous and undesireable. It is an ordered society that will bring about the world you dream of, not relying on the 'good will' and benevolence of the individual.
Feel free to give me a message if you're willing to cast off the propaganda you've been fed for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
Good luck, Pilot. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
529
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Posted - 2012.02.21 21:48:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:'All that is required for evil to flourish is that good men stand aside and do nothing'
So um, what exactly were you doing that was supposed to not let evil flourish? The blood might be on others' hands for not using their capsuleer power for good, but it is on yours, too. Don't try to deny that.
((OOC: you do know that every single player character in Eve is a capsuleer, and by virtue of having access to IGS you are a capsuleer, right?)) Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Rall Mekin
Suppression Inc. Redneck Rage
3
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Posted - 2012.02.21 22:05:00 -
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I agree with you completely. Let's set fire all across New Eden. By the fires of war will New Eden be purged of weakness, finding strength to mend its own failures and arise into destiny. If the capsuleers remaining in K-Space will struggle, if they will dig down and find in themselves the strength to overcome, then we can shrug off the torments and evils of this momentary dark age and arise into a society of light, a New Kingdom among the stars.
However, you seem to blame our failings for dealing with the Sansha. Why should I even lift my hand against the scourge? I have my means and my will, and they are of little threat to myself, as I live predominantly in wormhole space. I am the master of my own fate, together with those whom I love.
Secondly, contrary to what you claim, MANY capsuleers are fighting the Sansha (including myself, actually). Concord pays far, far too well for us to simply ignore this threat. As long as those paychecks remain, you will see many, many capsuleers engaging the threat, and doing so far better than any of the four great empire's navies, who, by the way, seem to be the one's who are NOT showing up to defend their space from the Sansha.
Before you emo-rant on the IGS, think your facts through more clearly. I am sorry for your family members loss. Why didn't you kill her holder and free her yourself. I don't think her blood is on my own or any other pod pilot's hands... except yours. |
Dilaro thagriin
Brothers Intensive Fighting Team Air
30
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:31:00 -
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So many who do not understand. Very well.
Silas. You may understand what is to come. These words are not for you.
Tiberious. The nation will burn with the rest, Do not think i have forgotten it's crimes.
Petrus. It is unlikely that a single frigate would do anything against the forces arrayed against us. At least, not alone.
Rall, I would suggest you read the third section of my original statement again. YOU are part of the cause. along with others, you allow Nation forces free reign over this cluster for weeks at a time, any why? because the pay is better that way. You and your kind disgust me.
All are held to account for their actions, and all are found wanting.
let me be a little more specific.
I wish nothing more than to see this cluster burn, every planet, station, outpost, colony, tower, habitat and ship. I am beyond caring about your petty reasons and excuses for your actions. |
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
173
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:23:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:So many who do not understand. Very well.
Silas. You may understand what is to come. These words are not for you.
Tiberious. The nation will burn with the rest, Do not think i have forgotten it's crimes.
Petrus. It is unlikely that a single frigate would do anything against the forces arrayed against us. At least, not alone.
Rall, I would suggest you read the third section of my original statement again. YOU are part of the cause. along with others, you allow Nation forces free reign over this cluster for weeks at a time, any why? because the pay is better that way. You and your kind disgust me.
All are held to account for their actions, and all are found wanting.
let me be a little more specific.
I wish nothing more than to see this cluster burn, every planet, station, outpost, colony, tower, habitat and ship. I am beyond caring about your petty reasons and excuses for your actions.
You are going to burn yourself down before you do any significant damage. I am not worried. |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
10
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:58:00 -
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Welcome to the fold. I would recommend a temple session as soon as possible. You are still emotional, and need to study scripture for a while.
Your emotions are most certainly justified. God is angry, and that is the reason there is nothing but despair in New Eden. We shall right that wrong. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
182
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:01:00 -
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Mr. Dilaro Thagriin, I believe the Seekers might have the answers you are looking for.
My faith only requires I burn enough to get what i want. I think perhaps you want to go 'all the way' with the cleansing, in which case the Seekers can give you proper guidance.
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:07:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:I wish nothing more than to see this cluster burn, every planet, station, outpost, colony, tower, habitat and ship. I am beyond caring about your petty reasons and excuses for your actions.
Right, because that'll your honour your family's memory, no doubt they'd be beaming with pride if they could see you now. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
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Dilaro thagriin
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
30
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:26:00 -
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Tiberious. We shall see. When your master is naught but dust, and your nation is a memory I intend to still be here.
Boma. Thankyou. I will report as you have requested as soon as i am capable.
Silas. How very perceptive of you. Perhaps I misjudged you in the past.
Caellach. You DARE to think you know me or my family. We were hunters, predators if you will. this is simply what happens when a predator has no more reasons to hold back their nature.
I will take some time to contemplate the texts Boma spoke of, and then once I am deemed ready, I will hunt.
-Dilaro. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:40:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote:Caellach. You DARE to think you know me or my family. We were hunters, predators if you will. this is simply what happens when a predator has no more reasons to hold back their nature.
I don't need to, no sane person would want to see their flesh and blood give up all compassion and understanding and become nothing more than a homicidal fanatic. Take issue with those who have caused you grief, not the innocent and powerless, nor those who fight endlessly to seek positive change.
Seeking an end to all things will not bring your family back, nor will it likely succeed. The strongest instincts are those of survival, even for predators. Committing yourself to some suicidal cause is not survival, and you throw away the last of your family line by choosing to go down this route.
So no, I don't need to know your family to say you're doing them a disservice. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
10
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:17:00 -
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What makes you think he is seeking an end to all things? Your view of existence is frighteningly narrow, Caellach. |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:19:00 -
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Boma Airaken wrote:What makes you think he is seeking an end to all things? Your view of existence is frighteningly narrow, Caellach.
Quote:I wish nothing more than to see this cluster burn, every planet, station, outpost, colony, tower, habitat and ship. I am beyond caring about your petty reasons and excuses for your actions.
Doesn't really leave much room for misinterpretation. You burn everything and what's left? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
10
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:24:00 -
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You are absolutely convinced that there is nothing outside of this cluster, galaxy, even existence? Like I said. Narrow is your mind.
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 05:41:00 -
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Boma Airaken wrote:You are absolutely convinced that there is nothing outside of this cluster, galaxy, even existence? Like I said. Narrow is your mind.
Spin it how you like, you're still trying to condone mass slaughter of billions without any reasonable justification.
Picking up on a small part of an argument to ignore the bigger picture isn't going to detract from the pont. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
10
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Posted - 2012.02.22 06:43:00 -
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I have scripture and history on my side, all you have is an opinion.
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Uraniae Fehrnah
Viziam Amarr Empire
68
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Posted - 2012.02.22 08:18:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote: I wish nothing more than to see this cluster burn, every planet, station, outpost, colony, tower, habitat and ship. I am beyond caring about your petty reasons and excuses for your actions.
...We were hunters, predators if you will. this is simply what happens when a predator has no more reasons to hold back their nature.
Snipped your words a bit as most of the responses weren't meant for me. What is left I just feel compelled to comment on.
I don't mean to insinuate anything, but I have to point out that, in my experience, people who are beyond caring about something don't take the time to announce they are beyond caring about it. I think you do care, more than you're willing to admit to yourself, simply because if you didn't care and you were truly disgusted by the state of the world, you'd burn yourself before even attempting to consider scorching the universe. Your emotions are running hot, Boma sees them, even if you jerk your head away and refuse to look at them yourself for fear you'll have to admit that at the very least your words are poorly chosen at the moment.
I also find the hunter and predator statement interesting, but quite inaccurate. Predators and hunting animals have existed in nature since before man looked at a woman and scratched crude breasts on cave walls. You are no predator and you are no true hunter. You miss the subtle but important distinction between an actual predatory animal, and a human mimicking a predator. An animal hunts to sustain itself in only the most basic ways. A human makes a mockery of hunting. A human murders, a human slaughters, a human massacres. From your own words it seems clear you'll be killing out of some sense of vengeance or righteous purpose, justice even. But that is not hunting, that is murder for a cause beyond instinct and simply calling it hunting.
You should do as Boma has suggested and take some time to study scripture, and more importantly, study yourself. Return when the fire inside you is properly controlled and the words you do use are more carefully selected. Words should cut like a scalpel, not crash like a brick. |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
607
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Posted - 2012.02.22 11:12:00 -
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And you decoded to becom an EoM "cultist". |
Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 13:49:00 -
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Boma Airaken wrote:I have scripture and history on my side, all you have is an opinion.
So I've got an opinion, you've got the very old opinions of several other people.
You're still not making a point, then again how can you justify the mass slaughter of innocents? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
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Jev North
Ghost Festival Naraka.
41
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:35:00 -
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I applaud your energy, respect your anger, but near laughed my head off at the perfect circularity. It's been noted how the abused tend to become abusers, and oppressed the new oppressors, but seldom does it happen so.. loudly. |
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
168
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:55:00 -
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All of this could have been avoided had he simply had the forethought to buy a proper supply of Vitoc for his kin. I'm sure the Holder wouldn't have taken issue.
Khanid Transport makes special deliveries, you know. |
Rall Mekin
Suppression Inc. Redneck Rage
3
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:18:00 -
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Dilaro thagriin wrote: Rall, I would suggest you read the third section of my original statement again. YOU are part of the cause. along with others, you allow Nation forces free reign over this cluster for weeks at a time, any why? because the pay is better that way. You and your kind disgust me.
I reviewed your text log, and it looks the same as when I first read it. I will comment, though, that in your original post you complain that not enough is being done about the Sansha, and when I mention that I have actually bothered to lift my hand against them, you accuse me? Any empathy I might have felt for you continues to vanish the more childlike you behave.
I suppose you are referring to the alleged delay by the broader capsuleer population in killing the eventual Sansha supercarrier. I do not feel that the current payout for those enlisted against the mothership is sufficient for me to risk either The Black Tide, my nightmare, or Khanid Victory, my Tengu, into service. These ships are quite expensive, and if I am to fly them into a battle that fierce, I suspect that ISk that I am to be compensated must be raised sharply. Current payouts versus risk are far too low for me to fly an asset as expensive as those listed above into a battle that fierce. After all, I am helping to kill a supercarrier, not a few battleships or frigates. When Concord fronts the money, I will be glad to assist in more slaughter--unelss you care to put your money where your mouth is, and forward me a 1.5 billion isk refundable deposit as guarantee of my assets' reimbursement, out of which I will withhold 750 million isk upon successful completion of my defense of New Eden, returning to you the difference. I'm sorry, you understand I am a businessman as well as a Eutopian futurist and idealist. I fly to very few people's defense for free.
By the way, you still have not addressed to anyone why you did nothing about your relative's condition. You could have done as Esan Vartesa points out. Vitoc isn't that expensive after all. |
Dilaro thagriin
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
30
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:21:00 -
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Jev. You think i seek to opress? perhaps you should think again.
Esan. you think I did not arrange for a supply that would have lasted more than her possible lifespan. You are wrong. The supply was there, and, unless you can find proof otherwise, the only reason i can see that it was not administered is that it was withheld.
My mother decided to stay on the planet in question, primarily because of her choice of religious belief. That was her choice and i respected it. arranging through financial means a sympathetic holder, and a steady supply of Vitoc, until a supply of Insorum could be found. She chose to place her trust in the people of that place, and it was a poor choice.
Rall. once again you speak of payment. ISK. you are happy to allow nation to have free access to any system they choose, because of your own avarice. Your own greed. you claim you 'lift your hand against' the sansha, but the truth is you hold out your hands to CONCORD, begging for a handout. and then have the nerve to claim that they do not pay you enough.
This cluster and all within it are self destructive and hateful of one another. All attempts to forge a peace have been crushed under the unrelenting sound of those who do nothing but beat the drums of war.
All i am doing is helping the cluster towards it's inevitable fate. then, and only then will all the people have peace. Then we will see and end to war.
They say this cluster was once beautiful. When the smoke finally clears, it will be again. |
Graelyn
Amarrian Retribution
217
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:31:00 -
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Grr! Argh! Angst!
This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire.
Stop your sobbing, and let the silly EoM people in your corp tell you how to justify the dumb with the miraculous help of their tiny cult.
That is where people like you belong. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit" YR113 Amarr Loyalist of the Year
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
444
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:50:00 -
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Graelyn wrote:This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire.
And what were you doing in said club on Luminaire to possibly know that? Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
ValentinaDLM
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
480
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:12:00 -
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Jev North wrote:I applaud your energy, respect your anger, but near laughed my head off at the perfect circularity. It's been noted how the abused tend to become abusers, and oppressed the new oppressors, but seldom does it happen so.. loudly.
How interesting that I was thinking this very same thing, he seeks a dark future full of despair, just like the one he experienced in his own private hell. I suppose misery, really does love company.
All I can say to the EoM cultists is this: Let the True Messiah, show you the way, let him show you that you can leave all the emotions of conflict behind and exist in a True Unity with the rest of humanity. Burning New Eden will not help anyone, it is our duty as human beings to find a way out of the circle of conflict that is never ending, against the dystopian regimes that would have you believe there is no alternative.
Your apathy to this duty is appalling, as one has already found a solution and it is hubris to stand against this, and blasphemous to not acknowledge it. I can only hope that once he finds you, the Master can show you the error of your ways, and you will serve society rather than try and destroy it. |
Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
182
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:02:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Graelyn wrote:This all sounds like something scrawled on the bathroom stalls at a Sabik-themed nightclub in Luminaire. And what were you doing in said club on Luminaire to possibly know that?
Was it "Mauvaise Intention"? They have an excellent VIP section.
And speaking of bathroom walls, the ladies' room did have a lovely "..For a good time call Graelyn" with a simply -adorable- little cartoon.
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Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
182
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:09:00 -
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*Damnable IGS programming bugs* |
Dilaro thagriin
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
30
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:09:00 -
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Valentina. I sincerely hope that if your vaunted master finds me, it is in person... my new sidearm needs to be blooded, and I can think of no better target. |
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