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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:37:00 -
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"you can't have what you want all the time, which is why titans must be able to blap anything" |
baltec1
694
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:38:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:baltec1 wrote:Ra Death wrote:
If -A- and friends had brought Maelstroms and Drakes, what they did wouldn't have been possible.
They did bring Mealstroms... But not a single one was destroyed according to EVE-kill. But that's not possible right?! :) http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12519023
Thats because the FC and fleet warped in at range and kept aligned. The moment they got yellow boxed by the titans the victim would warp off. The lack of PL bubbles ment they could do this, in a normal fight PL would have had them bubbled and the titans could blap them with ease. The fleet discipline was most impressive |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:39:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:Nao Oikawasan wrote:
I just told you why they didn't commit.
If your "well-thought-out" plan is so good, why don't you create a business plan and submit it to your investors?
I'm sure they'll be pleased as punch to give you some money to start operations ASAP.
They didn't commit because they didn't want to lose their own supers, it's fair enough. I can totally understand that. That scenario happens often with other events and other circumstances. But this whole event proved that a supercap blob can be contained and outmaneuvered if you use smarts and you adapt to it. If -A- and friends had brought Maelstroms and Drakes, what they did wouldn't have been possible. Are you seriously going on about your business plan for investors etc? Go play world of warcraft, lots of investors for that crap. I play EVE online because it's a niche game that appeals to what I enjoy in terms of gameplay. And funnily enough, it's financially viable :)
I'm sorry about harping on the business comment that you made. It's wrong of me to take shots at someone who is "disadvantaged". A game that appeals to the masses is a well designed game. THAT is what makes it financially viable. Nothing about multi-boxers with old accounts in that equation.
I'M SORRY! IT'S JUST TOO DAMNED FUNNY!
On to the really funny stuff.
So you are suggesting that the titan fleet was....contained? So......you continued to blap them until they were all gone. Right? Why would -A- leave first if they were.....winning? Please post more because I've only been playing this game since 2006 and I guess these complicated game mechanics have escaped me.
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Ra Death
Saevos Aviation Saevos Aviation LLC
5
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
AAA could not commit supers for two very good reasons.
1. Their titan fleet is outnumbered and had no idea if this was a trap set so they would get counter dropped by even more supers and killed.
2. If they commited and managed to kill all of the PL fleet their losses would have been horrible. They would have won, but it would have crippled their own titan fleet which would make their space even more vulnerable.
PL titans were not helpless, if they were they would have died. AAA did a fantastic job but in the end, if they had not pulled off they would have eventually been killed to a man by the titan which do track tengu. The argument about EHP is also rather laughable given that a titans EHP even when fit for tracking is still greater than many fleets.
1. This is fair enough. We all know how sneaky PL are. 2. Yes. It's a tradeoff. Being able to kill a 2 trillion isk supercap fleet should at least incur you some losses. EVE isn't risk free.
Titans didn't track any tengus except for the ones that came sufficiently close (dragged by the anchored bubble). PL titans were not able to switch to pure damage fits because if one of them got separated by a big bounce, they would have lost it. Titans cannot track tengus unless the tengus decide to fit an MWD or if they do something really stupid.
The EHP argument is pretty solid. Losing 15 million EHP is pretty damn significant if you get separated from your fleet. Titans bounce all the time when being warped together. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:46:00 -
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Ra Death wrote: Titans cannot track tengus unless the tengus decide to fit an MWD or if they do something really stupid. titans can track afterburning logistics ships because when fighting a titan blob you always have zero transversal to someone |
Ra Death
Saevos Aviation Saevos Aviation LLC
5
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:46:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:
I'm sorry about harping on the business comment that you made. It's wrong of me to take shots at someone who is "disadvantaged". A game that appeals to the masses is a well designed game. THAT is what makes it financially viable. Nothing about multi-boxers with old accounts in that equation.
I'M SORRY! IT'S JUST TOO DAMNED FUNNY!
On to the really funny stuff.
So you are suggesting that the titan fleet was....contained? So......you continued to blap them until they were all gone. Right? Why would -A- leave first if they were.....winning? Please post more because I've only been playing this game since 2006 and I guess these complicated game mechanics have escaped me.
I just litterally facepalmed at your post.
-A- left because they didn't want to risk their supercarriers as was beautifully pointed out by Baltec1, so there was no reason to continue. Plus, I'm guessing they were running out of missiles. |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:47:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:
I just litterally facepalmed at your post.
-A- left because they didn't want to risk their supercarriers as was beautifully pointed out by Baltec1, so there was no reason to continue. Plus, I'm guessing they were running out of missiles.
Facepalm? NOOOO!
Does that mean I'm.......contained? |
Ra Death
Saevos Aviation Saevos Aviation LLC
5
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:48:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Ra Death wrote: Titans cannot track tengus unless the tengus decide to fit an MWD or if they do something really stupid. titans can track afterburning logistics ships because when fighting a titan blob you always have zero transversal to someone
Is that why there are so many dead scimis in this battlereport?
http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12519023
Oh wait, there's only one. And two people have officer webs on him plus who knows how many neuts. |
Ra Death
Saevos Aviation Saevos Aviation LLC
5
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:50:00 -
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Nao Oikawasan wrote:Ra Death wrote:
I just litterally facepalmed at your post.
-A- left because they didn't want to risk their supercarriers as was beautifully pointed out by Baltec1, so there was no reason to continue. Plus, I'm guessing they were running out of missiles.
Facepalm? NOOOO! Does that mean I'm.......contained?
Alright peace. I'm out for the evening. Hopefully I highlighted some useful issues for the people making this titan nerf decision. |
Nao Oikawasan
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:51:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:Nao Oikawasan wrote:Ra Death wrote:
I just litterally facepalmed at your post.
-A- left because they didn't want to risk their supercarriers as was beautifully pointed out by Baltec1, so there was no reason to continue. Plus, I'm guessing they were running out of missiles.
Facepalm? NOOOO! Does that mean I'm.......contained? Alright peace. I'm out for the evening. Hopefully I highlighted some useful issues for the people making this titan nerf decision.
No! Come back! |
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baltec1
694
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:52:00 -
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Ra Death wrote: I just litterally facepalmed at your post.
-A- left because they didn't want to risk their supercarriers as was beautifully pointed out by Baltec1, so there was no reason to continue. Plus, I'm guessing they were running out of missiles.
Which goes to show just how broken the current situation is. |
baltec1
694
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:55:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:Weaselior wrote:Ra Death wrote: Titans cannot track tengus unless the tengus decide to fit an MWD or if they do something really stupid. titans can track afterburning logistics ships because when fighting a titan blob you always have zero transversal to someone Is that why there are so many dead scimis in this battlereport? http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12519023Oh wait, there's only one. And two people have officer webs on him plus who knows how many neuts.
Again, they were not bubbled which ment they could warp off when yellow boxed. How many times must I tell you this? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:58:00 -
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Ra Death wrote:Weaselior wrote:Ra Death wrote: Titans cannot track tengus unless the tengus decide to fit an MWD or if they do something really stupid. titans can track afterburning logistics ships because when fighting a titan blob you always have zero transversal to someone Is that why there are so many dead scimis in this battlereport? http://www.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12519023Oh wait, there's only one. And two people have officer webs on him plus who knows how many neuts. you mean this battle where two idiot supercarriers were ganked and then PL dropped in the titanblob to force the subcaps out, who then left rather than get blapped by the titans?
you idiot |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:58:00 -
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"titans are not broken against subcaps, as evidenced by this battlereport where very few subcaps were killed cause they bugged out because they couldn't fight titans" |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:59:00 -
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smart alliances never lose subcaps to supercaps! (because they leave them at home because the subcaps are useless) |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2423
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:00:00 -
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ergo, titans and subcaps are balanced
THESE THINGS I BELIEVE |
1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:31:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:"you can't have what you want all the time, which is why titans must be able to blap anything"
don distort the truth men, stop been a kid in here.
Real problem is you want everyone playing YOUR rules, and you want people forced thru nerfings.
Instead, use YOUR brain and fly WHATEVER suits the situation, sometimes that can be rifters, others, drakes, and others, scaps, witch you dont use because you want to play the victim here.
"buaaaa my poor little drakie got blaped, it's unfairrrrrrr"
cry me a river will ya ? |
1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:34:00 -
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CCP should come up with something that allow's smaller entity's (or player groups) do serious damage to scaps in general, thru something like a super torpedo or something like that.
keeping nerfing ships at goons wimp it's not good.
After CCP nerfs titans, goons will keep crying, because there's always something else.
If you review CCP forum history, you will that all unfair nerfs where done based solely by goon threadnaugts, and frankly, with so much inside intel goons get, no wonder they know where to hit ccp at.
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1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:34:00 -
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INB4 goons quote my posts distorting them and mocking the truth |
baltec1
695
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:38:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:CCP should come up with something that allow's smaller entity's (or player groups) do serious damage to scaps in general, thru something like a super torpedo or something like that.
keeping nerfing ships at goons wimp it's not good.
After CCP nerfs titans, goons will keep crying, because there's always something else.
If you review CCP forum history, you will that all unfair nerfs where done based solely by goon threadnaugts, and frankly, with so much inside intel goons get, no wonder they know where to hit ccp at.
So the goons made the drone nerf, nano nerf, titan AOE nerf and ECM nerfs happen?
Or perhaps CCP nerfed them because they were in fact game breaking. |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2427
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:43:00 -
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1Of9 wrote: "buaaaa my poor little drakie got blaped, it's unfairrrrrrr"
cry me a river will ya ?
come to think of it its not goons crying a river
1Of9 wrote:INB4 goons quote my posts distorting them and mocking the truth ahahahahahahahahaaha
lookit the badposter |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1656
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:57:00 -
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The only people I see crying in this thread are those who know their superships are overpowered and don't want to lose their invincibility.
Vote The Mittani for CSM Chairman for more ~elite PvP~ crying. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:1Of9 wrote:CCP should come up with something that allow's smaller entity's (or player groups) do serious damage to scaps in general, thru something like a super torpedo or something like that.
keeping nerfing ships at goons wimp it's not good.
After CCP nerfs titans, goons will keep crying, because there's always something else.
If you review CCP forum history, you will that all unfair nerfs where done based solely by goon threadnaugts, and frankly, with so much inside intel goons get, no wonder they know where to hit ccp at.
So the goons made the drone nerf, nano nerf, titan AOE nerf and ECM nerfs happen? Or perhaps CCP nerfed them because they were in fact game breaking.
Post with your main, grow some balls
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baltec1
696
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:11:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:baltec1 wrote:1Of9 wrote:CCP should come up with something that allow's smaller entity's (or player groups) do serious damage to scaps in general, thru something like a super torpedo or something like that.
keeping nerfing ships at goons wimp it's not good.
After CCP nerfs titans, goons will keep crying, because there's always something else.
If you review CCP forum history, you will that all unfair nerfs where done based solely by goon threadnaugts, and frankly, with so much inside intel goons get, no wonder they know where to hit ccp at.
So the goons made the drone nerf, nano nerf, titan AOE nerf and ECM nerfs happen? Or perhaps CCP nerfed them because they were in fact game breaking. Post with your main, grow some balls
Posting with my main, I have flown a megathron in almost every fight for the past year. If my balls were any larger I could mount two death star style weapons on them and take care of this problem myself. |
Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
600
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:12:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:Post with your main, grow some balls What makes you think he isn't posting with his main? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2427
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:23:00 -
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1Of9 wrote: Post with your main, grow some balls
dear 1of9, noted badposter
the default settings on eve-o sometimes cause a person's corp and alliance to not be displayed
however, you may click on their profile and discover who they are
in this case, baltec1 is clearly a member of bat country a member of Goonswarm Federation, and likely a main
thank you for your time I hope this has been educational |
Marlona Sky
EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis
465
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:37:00 -
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So when does this thread get moved to COAD?
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1Of9
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
8
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:41:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:1Of9 wrote:Post with your main, grow some balls What makes you think he isn't posting with his main?
i know a goon alt galaxies away |
baltec1
696
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:42:00 -
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1Of9 wrote:Lord Zim wrote:1Of9 wrote:Post with your main, grow some balls What makes you think he isn't posting with his main? i know a goon alt galaxies away
It would seem you don't. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
393
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:45:00 -
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Weaselior is posting up a storm, but still refuses to acknowledge that his side ignores any type of ship above battleships.
"Hi I'm Goonswarm and I should be able to win every fight by clogging the guns of my enemy with some mid level **** ship because we're newbie friendly", meanwhile, Soundwave, aka Stofferninjapirate or whatever his name was slowly does his best t20 impression trying to get whatever change pushed through that Goons want the most.
baltec1 wrote:
AAA could not commit supers for two very good reasons.
1. Their titan fleet is outnumbered and had no idea if this was a trap set so they would get counter dropped by even more supers and killed.
2. If they commited and managed to kill all of the PL fleet their losses would have been horrible. They would have won, but it would have crippled their own titan fleet which would make their space even more vulnerable.
PL titans were not helpless, if they were they would have died. AAA did a fantastic job but in the end, if they had not pulled off they would have eventually been killed to a man by the titan which do track tengu. The argument about EHP is also rather laughable given that a titans EHP even when fit for tracking is still greater than many fleets.
So what you're saying is that the 72 supercaps that AAA and Solar got online didn't jump because they wanted to be able to kill supers without risking even a cap fleet of their own, they instead tried to take the same road as everybody else and pretend that eve ship classes stop at battleships and that that, is what they should be able to kill everything in EVE with.
Sorry thats not how the game works.
You can't kill a Battlship fleet with a frigate fleet, you might kill one or 2, but largely, you're not going to do anything to them, just like you can't kill a supercap fleet with battleships, you must use dreads, or the job simply won't get done.
That is as it should be, Weaselior can cry all he wants, but until you use the ships in game that can kill titans, you won't kill titans and they'll always be a problem for your team. |
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