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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2008.03.26 15:54:00 -
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To the OP - its a mockery, ignore it - posts like this just keep attention on something that's silly more than offensive.
I feel your frustration on their use of terminology - and you have correctly defined 'jihad' - it's struggle, not holy war. However its perception that only matters, and jihad is perceived as a holy war - sometimes mockery comes across as reinforcing false perceptions.
You should only be offended if they claimed something real (like claiming Karttoon was a prophet of Islam). Since Allah is just an Arabic word for God (of no religious denomination - Christian Arabs say Allah in Church services) - claiming Karttoon is a prophet of Allah (God) - should mean no more to you as a Muslim as someone proclaiming Bugs Bunny the Son of God.
I doubt a Christian would be offended by someone claiming a holy trinity of Father, son and the holy rabbit. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.26 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Omarvelous I doubt a Christian would be offended by someone claiming a holy trinity of Father, son and the holy rabbit.
Blessed be the Holy Rabbit, for its tasty stew will nourish our souls
Mmmmm - think about it - the Easter Bunny makes a whole lot more sense in a religious context now! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.26 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: PR0PAGANDA might want to watch out for this one. coming from a religon that has people who wanted to kill over some cartoon pics in a newpaper and kill a teacher over a teddy bears name.
Yes - that's right - just label and group 1 billion people on Earth to this mentality - congratulations you're completely ignorant!
I suppose I could make statements like you and I'll go about brandishing every Catholic as a closet pedophile, every Jew as a money grabber, and every black person for a thug...
Get educated...
Originally by: JonLuc McPew
Quote: Muslim faith doesn't endorse suicide bombing,
It doesnt?? They sure seem to do a sh*tload of it...
Get yourself a history book/newspaper - religious extremists committing acts of violence in their Religion's name occur regardless of religion.
I mean all I see in the news is how some priest molested a kid - do I make the presumption, Catholicism endorses molesting?
I see in the news how another black guy committed a crime - sure seems like 'their kind' are violent - perhaps black people endorse violence...
I knew this thread would spiral down into bigotry - thanks for proving it! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge XIII Legio
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Posted - 2008.03.26 18:55:00 -
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Edited by: Omarvelous on 26/03/2008 18:55:48
Originally by: Sertan Deras
Originally by: Omarvelous
Get yourself a history book/newspaper - religious extremists committing acts of violence in their Religion's name occur regardless of religion.
I mean all I see in the news is how some priest molested a kid - do I make the presumption, Catholicism endorses molesting?
I see in the news how another black guy committed a crime - sure seems like 'their kind' are violent - perhaps black people endorse violence...
I knew this thread would spiral down into bigotry - thanks for proving it!
When people do idiotic things (blow themselves up, touch little boys, kick people out of their apartments with raised rent, burn people at the stake) they deserve to be laughed at and mocked, by everyone. That's not bigotry, that's checks and balances against extremist idiots like that ruling the roost.
And if Muslim's are so cute and fuzzy, where are the moderate Sheiks? Why aren't they speaking up more? Oh, that's right, because even Muhammad himself preached conversion by the sword. It's a religious tenant of Islam. Oops.
Man I was trying to be light hearted about this post but you clearly have no clue what you're talking about. I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
As for your clueless post...
When people do idiotic things - anyone can make fun of them (I do so myself). The Darwin awards for example - I laugh at those people - I don't take a swiping generalization about that person's group and label it. When you group everyone under a label, under a stereotype - that's bigotry. I don't see a crime committed by a black guy and automatically assume their entire race is more prone to violence (bigots do). Nor do I make minstrel plays to mock black people based on what some individuals do.
Do you see what I'm saying about making sweeping generalizations about Muslims?
As for moderate sheiks - they're there, and they speak out about it.
Its just not exciting enough for the mainstream media to report on it.
The extremists of any group get all the media attention because they have a high shock factor - moderates calling for common sense is boring and doesn't sell.
THAT's why you don't see moderate's speaking out - they are you're just not seeing it on the news.
Conversion by the sword? Read up on Spain's history - it was ruled by Muslims for hundreds of years in a society tolerant of Jews and Christians - no forced conversions. Compare that to the Medieval Europe with Inquisitions that surrounded it.
Do I jump to the conclusion that Christianity is a violent religion with violence as a tenet because of what the crusades, and the Inquisition brought about? No - but I could using your myopic logic.
Your lack of education is stinking up this thread quite nicely. Oops __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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Omarvelous
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Posted - 2008.03.26 19:20:00 -
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Edited by: Omarvelous on 26/03/2008 19:21:31
Originally by: Zissou
Originally by: Omarvelous I originally said that this jihadswarm thing shouldn't be offensive to Muslims because it isn't claiming anything about the real life religion - its a silly mockery of extremists.
Just as cartoons in a Dutch newspaper were attempting to add to a wider debate concerning criticism of Islam?
I thought the reaction was stupid - if no one knew what the prophet looked like, what offense could you get from a cartoon. It can't be more offensive than cartoons on Jesus or any other religious icon. I can't care less about the jihadswarm thing, its goofy to me.
I just didn't care for some posts in this thread that grouped a billion people into 1 thing based on the actions of a tiny minority.
To be honest I'm getting too serious on a space ship forum - I'm done with this thread.
People can say whatever garbage they want - I don't have any interest in defending one group or another.
I'm going to go fly some computer pixels and hope they make your computer pixels flash blue! __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
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