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Lord Roshan
Galactic Confederation ICARUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jawas I have played this game for 3 years and have neither the time or the inclination to go into 0.0 for many reasons. I play in highsec mostly with occasional forays into lowsec for mining and to pick up bits occasionally. I am neither rich nor do I particularly want to be, I can buy most of what I need and if I can't, then so be it, I just make do with what I have.
Because I don't have time to play in a 0.0 alliance, I would not have time to speak for the council. Administration of this type is what led me to close my corp since I was spending more of my online time doing corp administrative chores than actually playing Eve.
Anyone taking this role would have to have plenty of time on their hands because a lot of their time would be spent doing the council admin. In this respect, it would probably suit someone who is already in 0.0 and spends a lot of time on their PC playing Eve.
As to the OPs reasoning that a lot of highsec issues will not be represented, after 3 years of playing this game, you come to accept that as a fact of Eve life. During my time, I have seen Empire go downhill while all the shiny new toys are created mostly for 0.0. Gone are the days when you could find an empty Material Research slot, gone are the days of a decent yield from highsec roids, gone are the days of making any real profit in highsec any more.
With all the nerfing in the last few patches, gone are the days of seeing ships with varied loadouts. Now you look at a ship and can practically know how it will be fitted.
I simply play for a bit of fun now since most of the variation of eve has long since vanished, most of the ways of making any real isk are either exploited to the hilt or nerfed out of existence. This game has become a shadow of it's former glory bit alas, still one of the best space simulation games around which shows how bad the competition is at present.
However, lag and stupidity from the likes of Goonswarm are killing it off bit by bit and so much nerfing is laying the final blow.
But for how much longer?
More then likely, This will result in many people quitting.
LESS MONEY FOR CCP AS A DIRECT RESULT! -------------------------------- CEO of Galactic Confederation. Contact Lord Roshan or Monosol in game for info on joining GCON. |
Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.27 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jawas I have played this game for 3 years and have neither the time or the inclination to go into 0.0 for many reasons. I play in highsec mostly with occasional forays into lowsec for mining and to pick up bits occasionally. I am neither rich nor do I particularly want to be, I can buy most of what I need and if I can't, then so be it, I just make do with what I have.
Because I don't have time to play in a 0.0 alliance, I would not have time to speak for the council. Administration of this type is what led me to close my corp since I was spending more of my online time doing corp administrative chores than actually playing Eve.
Anyone taking this role would have to have plenty of time on their hands because a lot of their time would be spent doing the council admin. In this respect, it would probably suit someone who is already in 0.0 and spends a lot of time on their PC playing Eve.
As to the OPs reasoning that a lot of highsec issues will not be represented, after 3 years of playing this game, you come to accept that as a fact of Eve life. During my time, I have seen Empire go downhill while all the shiny new toys are created mostly for 0.0. Gone are the days when you could find an empty Material Research slot, gone are the days of a decent yield from highsec roids, gone are the days of making any real profit in highsec any more.
With all the nerfing in the last few patches, gone are the days of seeing ships with varied loadouts. Now you look at a ship and can practically know how it will be fitted.
I simply play for a bit of fun now since most of the variation of eve has long since vanished, most of the ways of making any real isk are either exploited to the hilt or nerfed out of existence. This game has become a shadow of it's former glory bit alas, still one of the best space simulation games around which shows how bad the competition is at present.
However, lag and stupidity from the likes of Goonswarm are killing it off bit by bit and so much nerfing is laying the final blow.
But for how much longer?
Racist. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Lord Roshan
Galactic Confederation ICARUS Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Quelque Chose
Originally by: Jawas I have played this game for 3 years and have neither the time or the inclination to go into 0.0 for many reasons. I play in highsec mostly with occasional forays into lowsec for mining and to pick up bits occasionally. I am neither rich nor do I particularly want to be, I can buy most of what I need and if I can't, then so be it, I just make do with what I have.
Because I don't have time to play in a 0.0 alliance, I would not have time to speak for the council. Administration of this type is what led me to close my corp since I was spending more of my online time doing corp administrative chores than actually playing Eve.
Anyone taking this role would have to have plenty of time on their hands because a lot of their time would be spent doing the council admin. In this respect, it would probably suit someone who is already in 0.0 and spends a lot of time on their PC playing Eve.
As to the OPs reasoning that a lot of highsec issues will not be represented, after 3 years of playing this game, you come to accept that as a fact of Eve life. During my time, I have seen Empire go downhill while all the shiny new toys are created mostly for 0.0. Gone are the days when you could find an empty Material Research slot, gone are the days of a decent yield from highsec roids, gone are the days of making any real profit in highsec any more.
With all the nerfing in the last few patches, gone are the days of seeing ships with varied loadouts. Now you look at a ship and can practically know how it will be fitted.
I simply play for a bit of fun now since most of the variation of eve has long since vanished, most of the ways of making any real isk are either exploited to the hilt or nerfed out of existence. This game has become a shadow of it's former glory bit alas, still one of the best space simulation games around which shows how bad the competition is at present.
However, lag and stupidity from the likes of Goonswarm are killing it off bit by bit and so much nerfing is laying the final blow.
But for how much longer?
Racist.
Hows he racist? noob. -------------------------------- CEO of Galactic Confederation. Contact Lord Roshan or Monosol in game for info on joining GCON. |
Quelque Chose
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Roshan Hows he racist? noob.
Actually:
Quote: As to the OPs reasoning that a lot of highsec issues will not be represented
He's in the wrong thread and I'm breaking his balls about it. Don't tell him though, I'm waiting for him to go "WTF?!" and call me a noob or something. ______________________________
"Eve Online is a massively multiplayer game about trolling in outer space." |
Siriyana
Astrum Contract Services Group
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Roshan
Originally by: jackie sparrow CCP does not control contents on other people's website. The fact that the Jihadswarm website is a website that the killmails are being uploaded to does not mean that the people who partake in the Jihadswarm kilings have anything against muslims...
GoonSwarm quoted the same things on the site, in Local Chat in EVE, a numbers of the members. Sounded pretty much like a mockery to me. I'm not Muslim, Nor do I have anything to do with the religion. However, CCP rules are Clear, And GoonSwarm broke the Rules.
Mockery may skirt the line, but I don't believe it crosses it. They aren't hateful, anti-religious statements. They are mocking statements and comments. They do not decry the religion, they bring satirical humor pointed at it. That is not anti-religious. ----- CEO, Astrum Contract Services Group ACSG Open For Recruitment (AU/AsiaPac/Late Night PST) |
Benglada
DEATH'S LEGION
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tobin Shalim how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)Tamal tigers (Buddhists) actually started it (sri lanka) -how many suicide bombers in the world AREN'T Islam (hint: none) a few, not lots but a few -which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam? christianity, juddhism, islam... a LOT -which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it? see last -which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels? This sentence makes no sense.
Cleared inaccuracies. ---------------------------
Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Sig nerfz0r - maximum allowed siz0r is 24000 bytz0r. - Devil ([email protected]) Sig By Ortos |
Franga
NQX Innovations
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Posted - 2008.03.27 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic GOON ALT DETECTED
ROFL!
Originally by: Rachel Vend ... with 100% reliability in most cases ...
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Djinn Phluxx
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.03.27 03:19:00 -
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I'd have to side with the OP on this one. I've a feeling he/she has ulterior motives, however, as we've seen in the news lately, even unintentionally mocking the terms or imagery of a religon or race is taken pretty seriously in most groups these days.
An editor was fired for making a noose. Why? Someone claimed it was racist. Now...history shows people of all races have been hanged...but 150 recent years of american history push people to believe it's a racist symbol.
So racist that even though the editor joked about the noose being where he and his fellow workers were headed if they didn't meet their deadline...obviously nothing in there about race...he was still fired.
Now, some players in the game have taken terms and misconceptions of a religon/faith and are, intentionally or not, mocking it inside and outside the game. Twisting a term to make it seem like a jihadist is a suicide bomber, irrational, or crazy.
The sad thing is, most players of this game seem to be completely ignorant of the difference between religons, regions, political actions, etc, and it shows in epic amounts in some responses to this thread.
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Tobin Shalim
Vulcan Foundry Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: duckmonster
Originally by: Tobin Shalim how is Jihadswarm misrepresenting Islam?
-how many suicide bombers in the world are Islam? (hint: all)
FAIL. The practice was first started in the 1400's by a Danish guy. Its currently widely used by muslim and christian palestinians, with limited use by the athiest Tamil Tigers.
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-which religion has decreed killing those that aren't Islam?
Islam has a prohibition against forced conversion, and only permits killing a non muslim if in self defense. But for reference, go read Leviticus. Yeah, stoning to death people who eat shellfish is one of christianitys nuttier commands
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-which religion has been beheading people that have done no wrong against it?
None of them. But man you should of seem what Ivan Millat did over in Australias East coast!
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-which religion in the Quran has stated that it's a Muslim's duty to kill all infidels?
The Quran does not say that. I've read it.
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yea. i don't think they're misrepresenting it at all. if anything, they got it straight on the money. why don't you worry about fixing up the problems your religion has and is causing before you come whine on a messageboard for internet spaceships?
Hey, now shut the hell up! Jihadswarm is a joke designed to mock people like you and your misconceptions. Get it into your racist skull *******.
you missed my post further on in the thread that stated i was being as sarcastic as the OP. to clarify: i do not believe any of those statements, nor do i endorse them. hell, why am i bothering to explain this to a Goon?
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Neco Furyan
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:17:00 -
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Its always funny to see us mere MORTALS always try to defend our GOD/ALLAH/RELIGION when He/She can do it better than us.
For me I'm thankful that GOD/ALLAH is forgiving. Cause if He/She wasn't, every time someone said something bad about the Pope or Muhammad or OMFG, lightning would strike from the sky from their mighty hand and kill that person and then we won't have need for threads like this.
I feel your pain Zwik. Trying to get them banned is very debatable as seen from the 9 pages of posts. But the important thing is to let people know that your beliefs are being misrepresented.
All that is needed is:
Quote: False Statement #1 "I am Karttoon, Shiekh of JihadSwarm and prophet of Allah" The truth: There is no prophet of Allah named Karttoon in Islam.
False Statement #2 "Praise be to Allah, there is no god but allah, and Karttoon is his prophet!" The truth: Praise be to Allah, there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his last and final prophet!
There's no need to start protests and burn flags in the streets, I'm sure Allah can defend himself without your help. I mean, thats what the Day of judgment is for (I'm sure every major religion has a Day of Judgment)
Now back to the blasting of RATS, the real problem at hand
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Marcus TheMartin
Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: Neco Furyan Its always funny to see us mere MORTALS always try to defend our GOD/ALLAH/RELIGION when He/She can do it better than us.
For me I'm thankful that GOD/ALLAH is forgiving. Cause if He/She wasn't, every time someone said something bad about the Pope or Muhammad or OMFG, lightning would strike from the sky from their mighty hand and kill that person and then we won't have need for threads like this.
I feel your pain Zwik. Trying to get them banned is very debatable as seen from the 9 pages of posts. But the important thing is to let people know that your beliefs are being misrepresented.
All that is needed is:
Quote: False Statement #1 "I am Karttoon, Shiekh of JihadSwarm and prophet of Allah" The truth: There is no prophet of Allah named Karttoon in Islam.
False Statement #2 "Praise be to Allah, there is no god but allah, and Karttoon is his prophet!" The truth: Praise be to Allah, there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his last and final prophet!
There's no need to start protests and burn flags in the streets, I'm sure Allah can defend himself without your help. I mean, thats what the Day of judgment is for (I'm sure every major religion has a Day of Judgment)
Now back to the blasting of RATS, the real problem at hand
Hinduism doesn't have a judgment day just an occasional reboot
also just lock this thread
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Ivan Kinsikor
International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:30:00 -
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Rofl @ all the easily butthurt whiners in this thread. Get over yourselves. ---------------------------------------- *****es don't know 'bout my nano'd Titan ---------------------------------------- |
Dapanman1
Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.27 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic GOON ALT DETECTED
Still laughing... Beets, you're among friends. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.27 06:14:00 -
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I can't believe this is still going on
------------------Sig-------------------------- J. Kerouac said it best in The Vanity of Duluoz: "Go droppeth a turd."
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Gravecall
101 Squints
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Posted - 2008.03.27 09:45:00 -
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Edited by: Gravecall on 27/03/2008 09:47:22 Edited by: Gravecall on 27/03/2008 09:46:49 Edited by: Gravecall on 27/03/2008 09:45:37 What I don't understand is why if they want to make fun of a religion in a rather insensitive way the more humourous: "Corporation: Men of the cloth - holy men called to serve God and harrass & assault miners under their care..."
didn't pop into their heads. Certainly requires a lot less twisting of things to fit context, it's just a change in spelling of word. But then I get the impression from forum posts that the average Goon likes excessively imaginative roleplay (as in the more it diverges from reality the more they enjoy it).
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Tyllie
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:03:00 -
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أنا مرتبكة [أس تو] ماذا يكون اعتبرت [ريغتووسلي] [إيسلميك] ولا [إيسلميك]à خصوصا عندما يجادل بالناس الذي ليس [إيسلميك].
عرفت أو يكون هو أنّ أنت بطريقة شرعيّة ماذا يكون [إيسلميك]?
أنا مستعدّة أن يراهن أنّ بعد ذلك سيقول أنت هو إستجماع فقط 42.
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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:11:00 -
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I am quite discusted at the replys of some of you in this thread, Religious tolerence is a good thing, its what makes us civilised. Using jihad alone is fine, but using names like el lah and such has a complete different meaning. There should be one rule in the eula, keep f****g religions off the game, same as politics. everybody is happy.
Quote: You are what you are, fool
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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tyllie أنا مرتبكة [أس تو] ماذا يكون اعتبرت [ريغتووسلي] [إيسلميك] ولا [إيسلميك]… خصوصا عندما يجادل بالناس الذي ليس [إيسلميك].
عرفت أو يكون هو أنّ أنت بطريقة شرعيّة ماذا يكون [إيسلميك]?
أنا مستعدّة أن يراهن أنّ بعد ذلك سيقول أنت هو إستجماع فقط 42.
so you saying according to article 42, no one should be authorised to use jihad, or be pretantious of being muslim unless they can really proof that they re muslim.
Can i really suggest writing that in english, because this forum are english only.
When i fly with french dudes who tend to know lots of arabic, w e scream el lah akbar, and such for fun while attacking, but we dont go to the point were we pretand to be profits, because french people are far more tolerent and comprehend the need of maintaining good relations with other religious people, bit like their previous president, the ones i know anyways.
Its simple, if they want a website with that s88t, CCP cann't doa goram thing, and as a born muslim i could not care less. Bringing jihadswarm into eve o forums and ingame, kind of increases the negative image of mulsims (40% world's population). How is that a good thing exactly? all that for humour? run out of jokes or something.
Lets keep the game clean of religions and cutls id say, not because i give a s**t. But mainly to avoid threads like this where i see tonnes of people replying somewhat extremly like a suicide bomber killed their dearest or something.
Quote: You are what you are, fool
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Adeptus mecanicus
The Flaming Sideburn's Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:32:00 -
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was once told by a girl that grew up during the comunist rule in her home nation that her teacher said: religion as a whole is a substitute fore the weakminded to go on with their daily lives, ignoring national laws and the respect of your fellow cititzens by using a belief as a exscuse.
considering some of the coments on this thread i have to agrea with the teacher
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Lonak Silu
GeoCorp. Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:43:00 -
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And God turned his eyes on internet forumz.
In his holly greatness, he pushed the 'Reply ton topic' button, thinking that he could bring his wisedom over those lost sheeps.
But suddenly, he stopped his crusade against the ignorance of his creation, and closed his holly laptop.
Allah, who was sitting beside God, noticed the despair that was sweating out of the creator, and he asked God :
"lolz, wut up ??"
To which, God replied :
"I'm tired of those noobs..I QUIT !"
And the two divine entitiez opened their "Account managment" page, before unleashing their godnesz wrath over the "Cancel subscription" button.
And from below, God and Allah could hear the now unfaithfull masses screaming in anger :
"CAN WE HAVE YUOR STUFFZZ?!!!11!??"
********
Heavens are for rent, so why bother discussing religions ??
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Celeste Coeval
The Gosimer and Scarab
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Zwik The truth: Praise be to Allah, there is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is his last and final prophet!
You are misrepresenting faith as objective fact. So you are denying my faith. So religious intolerance isn't allowed, so you should be banned.
agreed
Originally by: Lance Fighter This is either a troll or a noob... Ill take the noob route. |
AltBier
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Malar
Originally by: Lateralus So, does this mean we should ban all Amarr as well? For being defamatory to the Roman Catholic religion?
pfft. This is 'PC' going too far.
Here is a key difference. CCP did not use the terms / ideologies of the catholic church for the purposes of the game, or at least altered them enough so that they are not obvious.
EVE online? New EDEN ? Hmm?
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Reavers.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 10:52:00 -
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Edited by: Kuolematon on 27/03/2008 10:53:36 nm, dun wanna get warned
"The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of goldcrap"
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Jisel
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:04:00 -
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isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons?
religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm
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CRUSH BOSS
BigMek Industries GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:07:00 -
[235]
Hey look another post about Jihadswarm.
nice.
We fight for the ONE - We die for the ONE Don't troll in your signature please. -Hango |
Ethan Fletcher
Inhibitor Corporation
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:08:00 -
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I find it funny that the Goon spokesman is called 'Karttoon'. Cartoon...? Get it? Danish cartoons of Mohammed!? It all seems a bit inflammatory to me, but then I guess that was the idea to begin with....
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Roxanna Kell
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons?
religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm
Originally by: Jisel isn't islam that religion that stones raped women to death and kills people over cartoons?
religion of peace lol <3 jihadswarm
*Wise up, Its sharia, and its what discusts me about islam, the religion i was born in. and the only country that practices such barbaric ways is iran&uaE.
*Killing people over cartoons, well i get ****ed off on that as well, i dont see why anyone should conform to our ways, they frankly have no responsibilities. But on the name of peace, there shall be tolerence. therfore if people want to make fun of a religion, get their consent especially if you have that religion residing in your own country.
Quote: You are what you are, fool
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Arriana Echan
Transcendent Creations Inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:19:00 -
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It always suprises me the number of people that think a religeon is ableto perfom phsysical acts. Islam cannot blow itself up, hang people or stone people. Its the followers that do all that, and like the rest of us they are human and have all the same flaws. People that use religion as an excuse for their actions would behave no differently if religion didn't exist, they would just have a different excuse.
As for Jihadswarm, I couldnt care less, no miner I know has been hit, and even if they were its just a game (I can hear people having heart attacks allready), and since its just a game why are so many people whining or applauding the acts of a bunch of bored social rejects?
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UrMommy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:26:00 -
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all the jibberish aside i'd like to know CCP according to your rules if one attacks in empire it is an exploit if they too do not get their ship destroyed so if the web page is correct there should be equal losses to equal kills or are goons just fluffing there own nest ????????????????
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Storwin Winters
Amistad Annihilate Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.27 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Storwin Winters on 27/03/2008 11:28:59
The statements are disgusting. I must say one thing to CCP, You shouldnt let this crap allowed. Im my self a muslim and i disgust what jihadswarm does.
Even those Anti-religions crap entered a virtual game. How sad.
/Signed
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