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Avtambaram C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.01 21:29:00 - [1] Edited by: Avtambaram on 01/04/2008 21:30:11 As MrBlades of Eve-radio so very appropriately expressed on air today, EVE is a boring place as far as events go. The last exciting happening I remember is the appearance of the bright star that could be seen from everywhere. But sadly, and I really feel sadly about this, it disappeared without consequence. This is very frustrating. And frustration kills fun in gameplay. CCP needs to really do something better and produce some break throughs in the world of EVE, may be faction wars (not just missions being given against factions, which is lame), but actual wars; may be a Jovian invasion, or the talked about reopening of a new wormhole to Earth or something). EVE desperately needs more concrete and fulfilling stellar events.
CetusOfAsuran	Posted - 2008.04.01 22:02:00 - [2] couldnt agree more. The much talked about F/w has been "in progress" for too long. Its a simple thing caldari declare war on gallente we go to war. You sign up with an agent like you do the army/navy as a recruit. The more of the opposing faction you destroy the higher your rank upto 5 star general and obviously better rewards. The agent would be open ended(no time limit) until ceasefire is declared. Anyone not signed up would be classed as a citizen and carry on in the game as usual i.e protected by concord as not everyone will want to take part or have it forced on them. Also it would be possible to defect to the enemy simply by signing up to there agent. Simple really. And yes was expecting something more than just a glitch from the bright star, that was very dissappointing indeed. Yawn sigh yawn
Victorian Princess	Posted - 2008.04.01 22:09:00 - [3] Edited by: Victorian Princess on 01/04/2008 22:09:54 Originally by: CetusOfAsuran couldnt agree more. The much talked about F/w has been "in progress" for too long. Its a simple thing caldari declare war on gallente we go to war. You sign up with an agent like you do the army/navy as a recruit. The more of the opposing faction you destroy the higher your rank upto 5 star general and obviously better rewards. The agent would be open ended(no time limit) until ceasefire is declared. Anyone not signed up would be classed as a citizen and carry on in the game as usual i.e protected by concord as not everyone will want to take part or have it forced on them. Also it would be possible to defect to the enemy simply by signing up to there agent. Simple really. And yes was expecting something more than just a glitch from the bright star, that was very dissappointing indeed. Yawn sigh yawn You put it so very effectively. I would love to see the mentioned F/w plan come into effect. This will bring plenty of oppurtunity to pvp and make EVE way more lively and fun for players. This has so much potential, I would love to see it implemented. No body needs te model to be perfect, and there are other games with models for faction wars that should help the developers.
Rramar Claime	Posted - 2008.04.02 07:31:00 - [4] Agree big time. I heard there were live events but they stopped it for some reason, these are the essence of a MMORPG they should bring it back. The bright star was a bug wasnt it? If not sorry, but they just made some news about a bug, which they repaired in the last patch so that was not even intentional. Jovian invasion or a new wormhole, exactly the great ideas which would bring corps and races together to fight against a common enemy, if not for long only for a week, so poor devs dont get exhausted. :) Imagine the huge battles and the echo in the news, RP etc. of something like that. Who can't agree with that?
CetusOfAsuran GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY	Posted - 2008.04.02 15:03:00 - [5] yes i do put it simply dont i! i beleive though half the issues are trying o make it overcomplicated. Like docking at enemy stations, duh you are at war if you fight gallente dont go near a caldari station, you wouldnt go wandering over to germany in the middle of WW2 just for a sausage, seriously why would you HAVE to dock at an "enemy" station? other problems i believe are behind the scenes like the added stress on the servers of all the pvp etc, but they are probably just trying to do too much which will be the downfall of the project(if it ever happens), the best fun is simple.
Zhecao Vai	Posted - 2008.04.02 15:15:00 - [6] Maybe you should join an alliance and make some events happen yourself?
Avtambaram C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.02 16:23:00 - [7] Edited by: Avtambaram on 02/04/2008 16:25:23 Edited by: Avtambaram on 02/04/2008 16:23:47 Originally by: Zhecao Vai Maybe you should join an alliance and make some events happen yourself? It is a welcomed suggestion. However, as the more experienced players (like MrBlades of EVE-Radio who has been playing for approximately five years) have voiced, 0.0 wars are fun but only when they happen. 0.0 space is otherwise mostly unoccupied, and it is only during fleet battles that significantly events come to pass. Though the idea of alliance wars sounds great, it really does not have the richness of most great rpg storylines. And besides, fleet battles are lag fests, not too easy to be a part of them and enjoy them many times over.
Shaikar	Posted - 2008.04.02 17:21:00 - [8] You should check the news more often, there is often something going on. Not everything that makes the news happens in game, some of it are storylines from the background progressing but even those appear fairly frequently in game in some form or another. There are some big events which do happen in game and of course the very many player created events which can cover anything - from sunday's Amarr vigil for the 1000days since the Amarr Emperor died to all sorts of corp/alliance politicking that stretches from Jita to the ass end of 0.0.
Avtambaram	Posted - 2008.04.03 15:25:00 - [9] I do read the news, but only the articles that I find interesting (talking about EVE news ofcourse). I guess I'll start reading the rest aswell. But I would really love to see a Jovian invasion and alliances fighting the Jove to keep them from encroaching into 0.0 space.
mintatoth	Posted - 2008.04.04 22:52:00 - [10] Originally by: Avtambaram I do read the news, but only the articles that I find interesting (talking about EVE news ofcourse). I guess I'll start reading the rest aswell. But I would really love to see a Jovian invasion and alliances fighting the Jove to keep them from encroaching into 0.0 space. only problem with that is if my memory serves me correctly the amarr navy got is ass handed to them by only a small Jovian fleet, a major jove invasion would probably crush all our heads.

Lady Orehm	Posted - 2008.04.05 13:53:00 - [11] Edited by: Lady Orehm on 05/04/2008 13:53:12 Still, it's be worth it to see a Jove BS *****-slapping a mixed fleet in local. Personally, I think an Empire War would be enormous fun. Minmatar - Amarr to free/recover slaves, Caldari - Gallente Corporate War, something. Something that wouldn't involve cynos and capships. Make things interesting. edit - Smeg, logged in as my alt, dammit.
Avtambaram C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.06 03:44:00 - [12] The recent news events are suggesting a greater unrest in Empire. There is more tension between the four empire holders themselves, and Concord's secret operation is fuel of the fire, it seems. And yes, an empire war would be lovely. There missions aren't enough, and empire needs as war war. If these recent occurances in Empire again go without seeing a signifinant end, I can surely say that it will add to the already built up frustration of many players. The missing Federate Navy Reserve ships may be found in Caldari Navy camps. Upon this intelligence, the Federation may start hiring freelancer covert ops pilots to bring the ships home in exchange for rewards. And Once the Caldari realise this, they could return the favor in the like. This would lead to an escaltion of tension and would totally present further oppurtunities for fun in Empire. Anything of this kind would be so welcome.
CetusOfAsuran GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY	Posted - 2008.04.06 10:10:00 - [13] half the trouble is ccp have become a piggybank, and the money keeps pouring in so why do they need to do anything? They need more they bring out the cheap tricks recently wingman before that was another scheme exactly the same before that trinity ooh a new ship or 2. The fact is as players leave bored of the game, they encourage new to come in who think great play for 3/4 months get bored of going nowhere leave so thye bring out wingman tactic for new forever keeping the pennies rolling in. So as much as these news stories sem to infer that tensions are building and we will all get the faction/empire war we've all been promised it most likely will never come to bear.
Avtambaram C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.07 01:23:00 - [14] If you are right Centus, it is a sad state for all of EVE indeed. This game has huge potential, and if CCP keeps failing on materializing some of the most traditionally cherrished gameplay schemes being demanded by players, some new game will come along and slowly sweep the EVE fan base away. I hope things beocme more interesting in EVEverse.
Qelen Seastrider	Posted - 2008.04.07 13:05:00 - [15] As far as I can see, the posts so far all say, in essence, 'we're bored, make something new happen'. That's certainly a valid complaint for those who don't consider causing something new to happen, themslves. Here's a suggestion that combines a couple of widespread things that 'everybody knows will happen' with a condition that might just tie it all together- First, Faction Warfare. There's a problem here that comes from the lack of a definition for that term. What exactly does faction warfare mean when applied to the world from a capsuleer's viewpoint? Will we find ourselves fired on when we enter areas because our faction standings are low? Will we find ourselves with extra allies when we're picked on in 'friendly' areas? And how about trying to dock at 'hostile' stations? Now tie this into the second thing- the new wormhole to Earth. Earth won't have been standing still all these years, but one thing is likely: they will consider our galaxy as their property. After all, they're just reconnecting with lost relatives and employees! They of Old Earth financed our existence in EVE and I'm sure they won't give a second thought to re-exerting their claim to what we've done. And last, the chance to FINALLY balance the game to eliminate the massive advantage pirates have over everyone else! The way to do it is to have the new wormhole appear in deep null-sec space. Old Earth fleets appear to try to reclaim their 'property' and what will they first encounter? Our pirates! I'm sure this will give pirates something else to worry about besides sitting around counting their loot. Not that Old Earth will stop there, I'm sure. Every pod pilot will have to watch their backs at all times. Who knows what Earth's technology has done in the years since we lost contact. Once they are through the wormhole, who knows where they may pop up? Anyway, that's a beginning on a new direction. It may be too much for some people to handle, but I can guarantee one thing- they won't have time to get bored! Qelen Seastrider /
Avtambaram C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.08 19:59:00 - [16] I really like Seastrider's conceptulization of a new Earth encounter. I would love to see it happen. And yeah, Earth will be superadvanced. So, could it be that they're so advanced now that they have found a way to detect worm hole signals in deep space, and now have the ability to tap onto those signals eons away? What if they can use one of the active jump gates in New Eden to send through a portal generating ship so that they can reopen a bigger wormhole to Earth. Of course the portal generating ship will have a scout, and some muscle ships with it. And when this is realized by the Empire governments, instead of mobilizing the Navies into 0.0 (because they can't afford escalation of tensions between them and consider this a rather small threat due to the small fleet/squad. they ask agents in New Eden to recruit players to do the dirty work. Also, around the same time, the Jove gain the ability to do the same thing as Earth (I know its too much of a coincidence) and detect disruptions caused in the space fabric of this part of the Universe. They too make attempts to jump through. All this, and EVE will be a rather more interesting place.
Stork DK Minmatar Synthetic Frontiers Blue Federation	Posted - 2008.04.09 13:26:00 - [17] Although instead of events u just got a brand new grafix engine and soon you will get ambulation.. But yeah.. Could use a rouge drone titan in highsec or sumething =\ ___________ - Stork DK
Avtambaram Gallente C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.11 00:53:00 - [18] Originally by: Stork DK Although instead of events u just got a brand new grafix engine and soon you will get ambulation.. But yeah.. Could use a rouge drone titan in highsec or sumething =\ There you go! Anything; we're so starved, anything exciting is welcome!
Effei Gloom Minmatar eXceed Inc. eXceed.	Posted - 2008.04.11 12:15:00 - [19] Edited by: Effei Gloom on 11/04/2008 12:15:19 You are bored and got lots of experience, enter my competition and show what depth you have explored. * new []HINTS[] Competitions * * check them out * * prize:150,000,000.00isk *
Trent Valtine Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2008.04.11 15:30:00 - [20] Eve is a sandbox, and often times you get out of it what you put into it. The CCP gave you a big, shiny, awesome toy to play with, and you want them to put on a puppet show with it? There is plenty to do in this game. You're only bored if you stop looking for entertainment. Try something new. Your current corp not fulfilling? Find a new one. Bored with agent missions? Take up exploration, go attack a rogue drone infestation, contact T.R.I.A.D. about their new player-run agency. Get creative. Don't just wait for the CCP. And, even if you do have to wait for the CCP to do something for you, if I remember correctly Faction Warfare is coming soon, which is why the tension is ramping up in the news posts. So, maybe that will be enough for you.

Avtambaram Gallente C0RSAIRS	Posted - 2008.04.11 22:33:00 - [21] Edited by: Avtambaram on 11/04/2008 22:34:41 Originally by: Trent Valtine Eve is a sandbox, and often times you get out of it what you put into it. The CCP gave you a big, shiny, awesome toy to play with, and you want them to put on a puppet show with it? There is plenty to do in this game. You're only bored if you stop looking for entertainment. Try something new. Your current corp not fulfilling? Find a new one. Bored with agent missions? Take up exploration, go attack a rogue drone infestation, contact T.R.I.A.D. about their new player-run agency. Get creative. Don't just wait for the CCP. And, even if you do have to wait for the CCP to do something for you, if I remember correctly Faction Warfare is coming soon, which is why the tension is ramping up in the news posts. So, maybe that will be enough for you. GGGRRRREAT ideas Valtine! And I hope you're right about the faction warfare. Thank you, and everyone one else for their great replies. And yes, my current corp needs to get out of their ruts and into some fun group action.
CetusOfAsuran GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY	Posted - 2008.04.13 19:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Trent Valtine And, even if you do have to wait for the CCP to do something for you, if I remember correctly Faction Warfare is coming soon, which is why the tension is ramping up in the news posts. So, maybe that will be enough for you. Faction warfare has been coming SOON for over a year now cant remember when the idea was first floated but i know it was being widely discussed way back in jan/feb 2007 search through the forums and look at how old some of the threads are, its just another gimmick that will never appear but keeps us paying each month in the hope it will finally come about. may be next year
Derrios Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.04.13 23:28:00 - [23] 15 words for you: Shared PVP galaxy between Chinese playerbase and ours and battle royal for T(whatever) resources/space.
Killer Kelly Caldari Legio Victrix New Eden Federation.	Posted - 2008.04.14 20:28:00 - [24] When scripted events take precedence over freedom of gameplay, you get Guild Wars in space. ___________ I Get Money in New Eden Federation
CetusOfAsuran GHOSTS OF THE FIRST AND ONLY	Posted - 2008.04.15 12:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Killer Kelly When scripted events take precedence over freedom of gameplay, you get Guild Wars in space. Exactly, which is why the faction war looked so promising eg step 1 sign up with a "recruitment officer" of the faction you wih to fight for step 2 go out and destroy as many players of opposing factions as possible(only those signed up of course wouldnt want to kill innocent civilians) step 3 reep the rewards by gaining "rank" dependant upon ship kills(run like a normal killboard) All the while yes scripted events could take place throughout by your faction "general" mailing you with tasks they require being done, for example the caldari require a station to be obliterated from there space all caldari go to try and do so where as at the same time the galentean are sent to defend it, this could take hours, days or weeks dependant upon who organises amongst the players the best fleet at the right time, not much different to an alliance war really in nullsec except the ceo is an npc. Although that could always be an achievable goal set out, imagine that the ceo of the entire caldari fleet. This keeps it within a themed "event" but is also completely pvp open. But rsources resources resources the only thing stopping it from happening, oh yeh and the lazy devs.
Alarik Frisch	Posted - 2008.04.16 20:39:00 - [26] I recently joined Eve, a few months ago, and I must say that it's not really a "world" to me. I mean, a "world" has things going on that players must react to or that they might choose to react to. But Eve is really a big box within which the action is almost entirely player generated. This is, of course, the way that most players want it. Nonetheless, it seems 'sterile' to me, and for that reason I am pretty sure that in another few months, my boredom will cause me to leave the game. "So what?" you say. Well, I doubt that I am alone. I mean, I joined Eve (my first and only MMORPG experience) becuase I thought it was going to be a fascinating thing to experience, sort of like becoming a character in a grand space opera where, although it is a sandbox, it is one that had issues and plots and things going on that made it feel more than a big box of players doing their own things. I guess I'm saying that there is a lot of "life" and "flavour" that could be added by a more vigorous backstory and related events that had actual in-game consequences. Maybe I'm missing something, maybe it's going on all around me (hey, I did say I was very new to this). But, I really feel that I am interacting not with a universe of a gazillion people but a universe of a bunch of other players. Like I said, it seems sterile, and, eventually, will be boring. I'm very hopeful that faction warfare and ambulation will help. Just my two n00b cents.
DeT Resprox Minmatar T.R.I.A.D Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.04.17 08:16:00 - [27] One thing i would like to see and that i think should be made possible (though i think the Events forum is the wrong place to be discussing Factional Warare ideas): 1: In each Faction's top Corporation (such as Republic Fleet for The Minmatar Republic as an example), place a Faction Agent. This is just an idea, you could possibly place an agent in any station belonging to that faction in any corp belonging to it. 2: Opening comms with that agent will allow you to register your corporation for factional warfare, but you must have a minimal standing with that Faction for acceptance. This way, corporations will be able to register for Factional Warfare with that race. 3: CCP/ISD play out how Factional Warfare evolves, ie race relations result in factions at peace or at war with each other based upon ingame events being accomplished. The above should be easy to implement, but i guess that the main issue CCP will have is that there will be an awful lot of fighting going on resulting in server resource drain - which is bound to happen with Factional Warfare in any case. ---------------------- I wish to also point out, that T.R.I.A.D is purely player run and is in no way associated with CCP/ISD. All combat missions taken through us will affect your standings unless you are at war with the target in the mission or in our corp/alliance.
Avtambaram Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2008.04.21 16:35:00 - [28] Ladies and gentlemen, I'm am thrilled to share this with you. Faction warefare is almost upon us. "WarCry Network has published a new interview with CCP Games' Valerie Massey. In the interview Massey discusses EVE Online's upcoming fifth birthday on May 6th, and the effort to maintain a successful MMO in a crowded marketplace. She also revealed the name of the next expansion, The Empyrean Age, which will focus on factional warfare between the races in the game." Courtsey: www.insidermacgames.com Link: http://www.insidemacgames.com/news/story.php?ID=16451
LLeugh Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2008.04.25 05:23:00 - [29] Give them time and they will implement the faction warfare they have mentioned. One thing i have noticed is that the devs wont mention anything if they arent planning on implementing it. I just hope they fix that overveiw bug which mean i have to minimise my ov before i join a fleet so i don't lose half my overview. If you are not living life on the edge you are taking up too much room
shai hallud Gallente Not Like Most Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2008.04.29 07:23:00 - [30] well i think they should introduce corp ceo agents and alliance ceo agents that way the alliance as a whole can go on an op also these missons these could be npc missions or ane eve mail could be sent to all the ceos telling them that an enemy fleet has been spoted and could you respond to it u could find your self defending an npc structure from a human fleet if the enemy fleet destroys the structure everyone goes hope it would also be a good way to add money to the corp/alliance wallet i think these agents could be located in the player built stations



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