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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:15:00 -
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Greetings
Milliways Invest are currently looking to increase our capital with 2 bil isk. The money will be used, partly to cover the expenses attached to our PAD-services, and partly to expand our capacity for trading within empire. Bonds will pay out 11% of the isk invested, once a month for two months. At the end of this period all isk invested will be returned to the investors.
Minimum investment: 100m Maximum investment: 500m
Bonds will be sold at a first come, first served basis until the 2 billion are raised. Purchase of this bond is possible from now on and until the 3rd of April 11:59 p.m. GMT. The bonds purchased will then pay out the 3rd of May and the 3rd of June. Isk invested will also be returned to the investors the 3rd of June.
In the interest of keeping our shareholders and bond-owners informed, Milliways publish a newsletter every 2 weeks with updates on our business situation. Older issues of these newsletters can be found here.
If you are interested - post in this thread or contact MilliwaysÆ CEO, Piscus, ingame. If you decide to purchase this bond the isk you choose to Invest should be transfered to my alt; Pacidnah along with an evemail specifying the amount transfered.
For information about Milliways Invest please read below. ~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Piscus on 01/04/2008 22:20:11 As I know some of the people that prowl these forums have serious trust issues (and without a doubt, for good reasons) I will try to address some of your concerns here.
First off, a little information about myself and a lot of information about Milliways Invest:
I started my first character the 1st of March 2007 and I have been fiddling with the art of trading in one form or another since then. In late 2007 I started investing isk in trading on behalf of a few personal friends of mine. The profit was high, both for me and my investors, and this is what gave me the idea for Milliways Invest. Initially I kept Milliways Invest as a private corporation and it was really no more than a formalized version of the investing I had previously done on behalf of my friends. After some time, and calculations, I concluded that it would be more profitable to turn Milliways Invest into a joint-stock company. This enabled me to keep the invested isk, in theory, indefinitely (or at least as long as people were satisfied with their dividends) and thus make long-term investments resulting in larger profits for myself and my investors. Therefore I created 500.000 shares and decided on a share value of 8000 isk pr. share. The shares, with a combined value of 4 bil isk, were sold the same day as they were released, a lot of them bought by the owner of WAPC, Bogir, of whom I had previously bought T2 items in bulk on numerous occasions. Since the shares were released in mid-February, dividends have been paid out twice a month and so far 33,86% of the initial share value have been repaid to the shareholders. On top of this, Milliways invest have increased its NAV with 16,8% and the Milliways shares are now worth 9343 isk a piece.
Recently Milliways Invest have successfully launched a PAD-service and although we only have a few customers at present, these are returning customers and are, as such, generating an excellent weekly income.
Now to the obvious question: Why are Milliways Invest going public with this bond? For two reasons: 1. As of right now roughly half of our funds are tied up in the weekly fulfilling of PAD-orders and in our freighter which we use for this, and for trading purposes. The isk invested in [MINV] Bonds would therefore mainly be used for expanding our main business, which is high sec. trading. 2. I wish Milliways Invest to be a known and trusted corporation so that I may, in the future, be able to make real some of my grander business ideas with help and advice from this community.
For more information about Milliways Invest please visit www.milliwayscorp.com
I will now pass on the word to what I expect will be a lot of criticism (hopefully positive), and questioning of my trustworthiness as is customary in this forum. All I ask is that you please keep it civil. I will be here to answer all questions to the best of my ability and I assure you that should I not answer straight away it is because I am at work or asleep.
Thank you for your time, ~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Pacidnah
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:17:00 -
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Confirming that I am an alt to Piscus
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:19:00 -
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And you decided to release this on April Fool's Day why?
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:19:00 -
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I'd like to reserve 500m pending a chat with Piscus... My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:22:00 -
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Shadarle. Actually I decided to pospone the release of this bond until 15 minutes after april fools ended in Denmark where I live. Technically I am releasing it the 2nd of april (my irl birthday btw).
And Kazuo Ishigur - please contact me ingame. ~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Kwint Sommer
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:25:00 -
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Quote: Posted - 2008.04.01 22:15:00
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Dors Naberrie
Essence Finance Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:29:00 -
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Denmark is GMT+2 so it was 2nd April 00:15 when he posted it.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:30:00 -
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Not everyone lives by the forums. In fact, I could argue that going by the English custom, April fools ended almost 12 hours before this post. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
bogir
War And Peace Construction
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Piscus
Therefore I created 500.000 shares and decided on a share value of 8000 isk pr. share. The shares, with a combined value of 4 bil isk, were sold the same day as they were released, a lot of them bought by the owner of WAPC, Bogir, of whom I had previously bought T2 items in bulk on numerous occasions.
i will comfirm that i have a big part of the shares in Milliways invest. and i am relly happy about it.. and yes i sell him a lot of T2 mods.
Ceo of WAPC we CAN build it.
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Dors Naberrie Denmark is GMT+2 so it was 2nd April 00:15 when he posted it.
I understand how timezones work, it was 07:15 in Tokyo, 02:15 in Dubai, 18:15 here in Boston and a lot of other times in a lot of other places and to avoid having a bunch of bickering about timezones we just use GMT on this forum and according to it, "Posted - 2008.04.01 22:15:00"
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bogir
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Dors Naberrie Denmark is GMT+2 so it was 2nd April 00:15 when he posted it.
I understand how timezones work, it was 07:15 in Tokyo, 02:15 in Dubai, 18:15 here in Boston and a lot of other times in a lot of other places and to avoid having a bunch of bickering about timezones we just use GMT on this forum and according to it, "Posted - 2008.04.01 22:15:00"
but i will say this... this is not a april joke. he talked to be about it. and sayed he was going to post it after midnight danish time for the fact that he ditten wanted any missunderstandings.. but one we ditten think of is the time zones on forum. Ceo of WAPC we CAN build it.
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Don Jehova
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:45:00 -
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I been using Milliways Invest for a while now, first investments now holding stock. It has been a very pleasant and reliable experience. Isk has been on time and the amount recieved have lived up to all agreements, and on several occasions more than the expected amount.
//don ______________________________________________________________
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Piscus on 01/04/2008 22:47:34
All I can say Kwint is that this is not an April fools joke and I sure don't hope it looks like one.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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TheVad
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Posted - 2008.04.01 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Piscus Greetings
Milliways Invest are currently looking to increase our capital with 2 bil isk. The money will be used, partly to cover the expenses attached to our PAD-services, and partly to expand our capacity for trading within empire. Bonds will pay out 11% of the isk invested, once a month for two months. At the end of this period all isk invested will be returned to the investors.
To be honest, this is a perfect bank loan situation. Why dont you save yourself all the extra work and headache and just get a 2 billion loan that will cost you less in interest?
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.01 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Piscus on 01/04/2008 23:05:56
For two reasons TheVad.
1. I want to, as stated in my second post, to show the public that I can be trusted with their hard earned isk - This is the way to do it. If I just wanted 2 bil I could transfer them from my pvp char who has roughly 3 bil available to him.
2. I wouldn't trust my competition with my full api-key (I know at least Ebank requires this for a loan).
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Tarun Thred
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.04.01 23:31:00 -
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I see this bond offer as relatively high risk due to the lack of a public track record, the returns do however reflect this.
I'll take a small punt on this to the tune of 200m.
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Elias Riikonen
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.04.01 23:50:00 -
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I hereby register my interest to invest 500m into this.
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Piscus
Milliways Invest
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Posted - 2008.04.01 23:53:00 -
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Edited by: Piscus on 01/04/2008 23:53:07 I hereby confirm that I have recieved 200m from Tarun Thred.
Sorry about the CSPA charge ,o). Have been set to 0 now. Pacidnah is a relatively new char so hadn't gotten around to do it before now.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Pasha Cracken
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Posted - 2008.04.02 00:06:00 -
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I hereby register my interest to invest 100 million in this venture.
-Money sent
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 00:13:00 -
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I confirm that I have recieved 500M from Elias Riikonen
I confirm that I have recieved 100M from Pasha *****en
Thank you for your investments.
A little update.
Have now sold 800M worth of bonds 500M worth of bonds are reserved until tomorrow by Kazuo
Status is: 700M worth of bonds are still available.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Lo Lightshard
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Posted - 2008.04.02 03:25:00 -
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I will take 250M -- cash will be transferred in a few hours.
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Silver Night
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.04.02 05:32:00 -
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I'll take 100m --------------
GLS Mr. State Caldari Patriot. Sansha's Nation Supporter Murderer of (his own) Frigates.
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MilowFV
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Posted - 2008.04.02 06:05:00 -
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I will Risk 100 million. ISK will be sent in the hour.
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Xantheris
Unknown-Heroes Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.02 07:13:00 -
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Guess I will grab the last 50mil. ISK will be sent within the hour.
Thanks and good luck!
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Ishina Fel
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:00:00 -
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I am currently at work. But if there are still bonds left when I get home later, I'll have some too (if possible, reserve me some please )
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 10:43:00 -
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Ishina Fel - I am sorry but as of right now it looks as if all the bonds have been sold. It depends on whether Kazuo will be buying the bonds reserved by him yesterday though. If not, I will contact you asap.
Confirming that I have received 250M from Lo Lightshard
Confirming that I have received 100M from Silver Night
Confirming that I have received 100M from MolovFV
Confirming that I have received 50M from Xantheris
Thank you for your investments. Looking forward to proving that investing in "little known businesses" can be very profitable.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Piscus
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Posted - 2008.04.02 12:43:00 -
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All bonds have now been sold.
Thank you for your investments. First 'dividends' will be paid out the 3rd of May.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Kwint Sommer
Lothian Quay Industries
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Posted - 2008.04.02 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Piscus Edited by: Piscus on 02/04/2008 12:46:49
All bonds have now been sold.
Congratulations, that went quite quickly.
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Ishina Fel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:40:00 -
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Ah, too bad. Oh well. :)
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Piscus
Milliways Invest
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Posted - 2008.04.02 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Piscus on 02/04/2008 18:55:10
Originally by: Ishina Fel Ah, too bad. Oh well. :)
If you'd like it I could contact you the next time Milliways offers bonds. Will not be before the third of June though.
Originally by: Kwint Sommer
Originally by: Piscus Edited by: Piscus on 02/04/2008 12:46:49
All bonds have now been sold.
Congratulations, that went quite quickly.
Thank you. I am very pleased with how it turned out. I know it can be hard to start up an IPO on these forums when your relatively unknown.
ps. Thank you to Bogir for vouching for me and to Don Jehova for his kind words regarding our shares.
~Piscus -CEO Milliways Invest
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Ishina Fel
Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.04.03 06:43:00 -
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I can't guarantee I will have ISK then, the contents of my wallet are fleeting
I'm reading the market forums more or less regularly, so if you make an offer in the future I'll come across it.
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