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Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
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Posted - 2012.02.25 17:10:00 -
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As stated ubove this is a forem post for all things Dust. Talk about what your looking forword to along the lines of wepons/armor and whatever else might be on your mind with other Dust bunnies.
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Thoses who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Thoses who advicate War do not know it's power. Yet Thoses who learn from War will be remember for all time.
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Blane Xero
The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2012.02.25 19:18:00 -
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1. Above, not Ubove. 2. Forum, not Forem. 3. You're, not Your. 4. Forward, not Forword. 5. Weapons, not Wepons. 5.1 Armour, not Armor. [Kinda sorta] 6. Those, not Thoses. 7. It's = It Is. Its is the possessive [do not know its power, not do not know it's power]. 8. Remembered, not remember. 9. Advocate, not advicate. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008. /OOPE/ Bittervet since 2006.
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Merin Ryskin
Peregrine Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.25 20:14:00 -
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I'm really going to enjoy shooting people with the - oh wait, it's PS3 exclusive and therefore nobody is going to play it.
What I really look forward to is when the PS3 version fails, CCP's grand plans for Dust/EVE integration fail, and they are forced to release a PC version to salvage the game. I just hope that CCP sees the inevitable reasonably quickly. |
Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
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Posted - 2012.02.25 23:30:00 -
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Blane Xero wrote:1. Above, not Ubove. 2. Forum, not Forem. 3. You're, not Your. 4. Forward, not Forword. 5. Weapons, not Wepons. 5.1 Armour, not Armor. [Kinda sorta] 6. Those, not Thoses. 7. It's = It Is. Its is the possessive [do not know its power, not do not know it's power]. 8. Remembered, not remember. 9. Advocate, not advicate.
and my spelling sucks. anyway anyone have any thoughts about minmatar HAVs and if we would be able to equip them with auto-cannons to shoot down drop-ships?(i know about the guided missiles) Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
156
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Posted - 2012.02.27 14:00:00 -
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Yoma Karima wrote:Blane Xero wrote:1. Above, not Ubove. 2. Forum, not Forem. 3. You're, not Your. 4. Forward, not Forword. 5. Weapons, not Wepons. 5.1 Armour, not Armor. [Kinda sorta] 6. Those, not Thoses. 7. It's = It Is. Its is the possessive [do not know its power, not do not know it's power]. 8. Remembered, not remember. 9. Advocate, not advicate. and my spelling sucks. anyway anyone have any thoughts about minmatar HAVs and if we would be able to equip them with auto-cannons to shoot down drop-ships?(i know about the guided missiles)
Well considering that there's a man portable Auto-cannon, I would be surprised if they didn't have one. Though you shouldn't expect the dropships to be a push over. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3302
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Posted - 2012.02.27 19:09:00 -
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Last time I checked Armour was invented after the creation of the word Armor, as well as all the other similar wordings according to the Dictionary Britanica.
Grideris is there going to be racial symetry of any sort (like every race has at least 1 tank) how that tank works is though racially themed? Or is it going to be like one race has one type of weapon and nobody else has a interation of doing the same role.
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Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
7
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:26:00 -
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Grideris wrote: [Well considering that there's a man portable Auto-cannon, I would be surprised if they didn't have one. Though you shouldn't expect the dropships to be a push over.
thanks and i won't be underestimating dropships. I'm a BF3 vet and there was never a handy Mobel AA around when you needed it to shoot down good copter pilots who could dodge any missile you send their way. i'm guessing that Dropship pilots will be just as good(if not better) so a point and shoot AA will be a godsend rather than having to relly on guidence systems. Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Stellar Vix
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.02.28 02:40:00 -
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Yoma Karima wrote:Grideris wrote: [Well considering that there's a man portable Auto-cannon, I would be surprised if they didn't have one. Though you shouldn't expect the dropships to be a push over.
thanks and i won't be underestimating dropships. I'm a BF3 vet and there was never a handy Mobel AA around when you needed it to shoot down good copter pilots who could dodge any missile you send their way. i'm guessing that Dropship pilots will be just as good(if not better) so a point and shoot AA will be a godsend rather than having to relly on guidence systems.
She doesn't know about the VTOLs and Bombers right? Drop ships are flying apcs for the game basically.
-Vix |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2012.02.28 09:57:00 -
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These questions need answering if the EVE player base are to accept Dust:
(1) Cost How much money has and will be spent in development of Dust and associated Dust technology? How much money will be apportioned to the server infrastructure to support Dust? How much marketing $ have and will be spent in promotion of Dust? How much EVE online revenue have and will be spent in development, promotion and support of Dust?
(2) Features How many Dust players will be necessary for the link between EVE & Dust to work effectively? What impact will low numbers have on the EVE economy? What impact will high numbers have on the EVE economy and support staff requirements to handle high numbers? In the event of high numbers, will EVE staff be reallocated? In the event of low numbers, will Dust staff be allocated to EVE instead?
(3) Failure What are the circumstances for CCP to categorize Dust as a failure? What are the circumstances for CCP to categorize Dust as a success? What does the ROI need to be in the first month? the first quarter? the first 6 months? the first year?
(4) Contingency In the event of catastrophic failure: poor reviews, low income, low player count, atrocious and/or uncompelling game-play mechanics with little risk/reward ratios neatly implemented; will CCP admit defeat and 'offline' the game? OR will CCP dogmatically 'stick to their guns' and run the game into the ground, apportioning revenue from other sources (EVE) in a vain attempt to make a success of a party with no attendees?
All other questions are secondary - because there are plenty of games out there which have guns in them.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
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Posted - 2012.02.28 17:20:00 -
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Quote:=Stellar Vix She doesn't know about the VTOLs and Bombers right? Drop ships are flying apcs for the game basically.
-Vix
Yes i do know about the VTOLs and fighter/bombers my coment was ment to inclued all airborn vehicals. sorry if i didn't make that clear.
and AllyKat makes a good point. Those are important questions and they may be answerd at fan fest, i'll be strolling though the Dust wepsights and get back to you if i find anything before that.
oh and before I forget Grideris made a Dust 514 cast with Brodcaststorm on Dust514base you might wan't to check it out. Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Henry Haphorn
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.29 18:03:00 -
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AlleyKat wrote:These questions need answering if the EVE player base are to accept Dust:
(1) Cost How much money has and will be spent in development of Dust and associated Dust technology? How much money will be apportioned to the server infrastructure to support Dust? How much marketing $ have and will be spent in promotion of Dust? How much EVE online revenue have and will be spent in development, promotion and support of Dust?
(2) Features How many Dust players will be necessary for the link between EVE & Dust to work effectively? What impact will low numbers have on the EVE economy? What impact will high numbers have on the EVE economy and support staff requirements to handle high numbers? In the event of high numbers, will EVE staff be reallocated? In the event of low numbers, will Dust staff be allocated to EVE instead?
(3) Failure What are the circumstances for CCP to categorize Dust as a failure? What are the circumstances for CCP to categorize Dust as a success? What does the ROI need to be in the first month? the first quarter? the first 6 months? the first year?
(4) Contingency In the event of catastrophic failure: poor reviews, low income, low player count, atrocious and/or uncompelling game-play mechanics with little risk/reward ratios neatly implemented; will CCP admit defeat and 'offline' the game? OR will CCP dogmatically 'stick to their guns' and run the game into the ground, apportioning revenue from other sources (EVE) in a vain attempt to make a success of a party with no attendees?
All other questions are secondary - because there are plenty of games out there which have guns in them.
AK
Those questions will obviously not be answered until AFTER Dust 514 comes out since we have no foundation to base any of our assumptions on. By foundation I mean having experienced a prior version of its release (ie: beta testing) and since even the beta hasn't come out yet, we might as well be shooting blindly in the dark as we do nothing but imagine and speculate. Welcome to Eve Online. Don't expect people to be nice to you. |
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
201
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Posted - 2012.03.01 12:37:00 -
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Henry Haphorn wrote: Those questions will obviously not be answered until AFTER Dust 514 comes out since we have no foundation to base any of our assumptions on.
By foundation I mean having experienced a prior version of its release (ie: beta testing) and since even the beta hasn't come out yet, we might as well be shooting blindly in the dark as we do nothing but imagine and speculate.
Are you suggesting CCP Games do not have the answers for these questions?
That's quite a comment to make, if that is your comment.
Releasing a new game in the days of 100+ size dev teams, it is not just logical thought process to have the answers to these questions prior to release, you have them prior to development of the game.
Would you give $20 million to a company if they didn't have a plan, other than 'make awesome game'?
They have the answers, believe me, they just do not want to answer them as this information could then be used against them in the future.
The fact that Dust & EVE are supposed to be 'one universe' and yet they do not even have a 'general discussion' place holder on these forums (and they recently redesigned the website) speaks volumes.
End the speculation CCP. Answer the questions, link the community forums and release the damn beta, so I can plugin my Black Magic Intensity Pro and give it an honest review.
AK GÇ£You go into combat, and itGÇÖs NOT going to be WagnerGǪindustrial techno or really hard drum and bassGÇ¥
Reynir Hardarson, founding member of CCP Games, 2002. |
Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
7
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Posted - 2012.03.02 20:46:00 -
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ok back on topic warbarges-defence active or passive?
also if you went to Dust514Base someone took a guesss at what would happen if you could assasinate the MCC comander inside the MCC.(barel roaling MCC anyone?) Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Yoma Karima
Kuloldas
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Posted - 2012.03.20 22:55:00 -
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Bump why not fanfest is two days away. Those who wish to end War wish to end what it means to be human. Those who advocate War do not know its power. Yet Those who learn from War will be remembered for all time.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
371
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Posted - 2012.03.20 23:15:00 -
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Yoma Karima wrote:Bump why not fanfest is two days away.
Because when real news is close at hand, the entertainment in speculation dwindles. Why be proven wrong when everyone can remember it? Better to have a lot of time between your predictions and being proven wrong, that way no one remembers it.
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