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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.08 08:19:00 -
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Hello boys and girls! Well, following my original loan you can read about it http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1564993
It was great success! and here are some of the highlights
http://i54.tinypic.com/j8itf7.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3446/3202502460_d54c0e2e21.jpg
So you can see I have great references It was a good result. I did not yet sell everything but made a profit and when the remainder sells it will be about double the original investment in total. I did use some existing stock as well so if I factor that in as costs then it is a bit less but still quite pleased.
I am now thinking about where to go next. In the meantime I would like to get more trading done and specifically want to do some more regional trading.
I have not yet worked out on the calcumatron the exact values but I have the following collateral currently free to be set aside
SHIPS: 1 x T2 fit Hulk 1 x Maelstrom which has T2 modules and T1 artillery guns but could also come with some named variants instead 1 x Charon*
BPOS (100-200 in total): Large list of T2 ship component BPOs which are all researched to ME10/PE10 zero waste Large list of module BPOs (shields, armor, hull, energy all T1) also well researched
Gummy Bears: Some spare ones might be found behind the sofa!
I am happy to provide a big list of things but I'll have to put those online somewhere later.
* I also have the Charon available but I would really like to keep that this time because I want to use it for some inter regional items. I can use a transport ship and contract for things that don't fit but it just means more time and money spent.
Including the Charon the total available collateral this time is maybe a bit over 2bn. Later this week I will sit down and check it all properly. Without the Charon I think the rough estimate is about 1.5bn maybe a bit less.
Phew! I am tired from typing and thinking about this too much So that is what is potentially available! Now I would really ideally like one or two people for this because there are a lot of BPOs involved. Over 100! Neatly folded and tucked away in a handful containers!
I would really like a lower interest rate 5% I think is fair? Because this time I want to be doing high sec trading and inter regional trading so the margins won't be so good and I won't be using stock from before.
The amount I have in mind is 2bn. Anyways I am not going ahead with this yet because I want to see what suggestions and offers can be made. In the end I might not even do it but if I do it will probably be starting next week because I am very busy this week and this weekend.
Now I am going to sit down because I'm pooped from all this typing and calcumatroning! |
Jaxx McCoy
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Posted - 2011.09.08 09:07:00 -
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I think your terms sound good, and if you decide to do it, this offering will fill quickly even at 5% and 75% collateral (without the Charon).
The collateral, and the successful completion of your previous bond lowers the risk profile enough that it is an attractive investment despite the lower interest.
Just my opinion, good luck! |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.08 16:19:00 -
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Hello there little girl
Based on previous experience, I would be happy to be one or more of your future investors in your endevours.
I would be happy to loan you up to the full amount your asking for, if I can hold collateral.
However, I think the interest rate is too low. At 75% collateral, I would be willing to offer you a loan at 8%, with a full (i.e. 110% min9 collateralization 6% would be ok.
(After all I need to make some money )
Let me know what you think
Cheers,
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Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.08 19:10:00 -
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If you are looking for a 2nd investor I have a bit of spare isk I would be willing to invest.
I too have thrown some figures around and for me to make it worth my while I would be willing to match Tom's assesment.
I would normally ask for min 10%, but I am keen on investing, as your previous loan worked well I would be willing to go:
75% Collateral for 8% (I would like to hold 35% of Collateral if split with Tom) 100% Collateral for 6% (split 50/50)
If you were wanting say 2b from each investor therfore increasing your working capital (a total of 4b investment) I would be willing to go with a 35% Collateral I would be willing to do that for 10% (so you can jkeep your Charon
Anyway a few options for you to think over.
Would be interested in your thoughts and that of Tom and other investors?? I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Jaxx McCoy
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Posted - 2011.09.09 07:37:00 -
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Tom Hagen wrote:Hello there little girl
LOL Tom looking at your avatar and reading that first line... it sounded pretty bad haha!
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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.09 10:06:00 -
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Hey guys I am looking through my free assets and have a question! For items I'm just using Jita buy/sell price table.
The BPOs I can use presumably the price I paid for them? There are 125 in total. I've used the prices I paid from memory but I need to check on some sets.
Updating this I put a spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av84LgJn8Tc7dHQ1OGZoX0U4bkQ3MHhRZXMxV2NoT1E&hl=en_US
It looks like I have overestimated what I have currently idle/free for collateral I can probably free up some more stacks of PvP equipment but that wouldn't really change the total much. Other stuff is in nullsec and would be a pain to haul up.
I'll have to see what I can do but for now, including original collateral, I can do 90% of 2b. I really would like to use that Charon some more though Hmmmmm I'll have a look this weekend if I can pull some things back from my nullsec stations if I have some time to try to make up the shortfall.
But anyways 8% is higher than last time! Meet halfway at 6.5%? Pweeeeeease |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.09 14:28:00 -
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Hi again,
The reason for the increased interest is that the size of the bond now makes the investment a more risky one as well.
I would like to offer you a third option as well.
If you widh to keep the Charon for transporting stuff, I could offer you a 2 Bill loan using only 50% collateral at 10% interest.
That would mean collateral is the ships (except the Charon) and the BPOs.
Let me know again what you think. |
Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.09 15:57:00 -
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Tom
Quote:If you widh to keep the Charon for transporting stuff, I could offer you a 2 Bill loan using only 50% collateral at 10% interest.
Would you be willing to split that with me 1b for 10% and 25% collateral each??
if not (and I hope you will )
I would be wiling to offer you 2b with 35% collateral for 12% (you obviosly keep the Charon ) I would be willing to offer you 2b with no collateral for 15% I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.09 16:14:00 -
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@ Brollox: Yes, I would be fine with splitting the loan.
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Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.09 17:36:00 -
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Awesome.
Well it is upto little girl as to the amount and the terms she wants now she has 2 willing investors and various options!! I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.10 07:19:00 -
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Hi uncie Tom and ahm Brollox Oh my! So many options! Well, the reason I am so attached to the Charon is because I am not a pure station trader. I'm used to using it for freight/building and some inter region trading, in between other less trading activities. I suppose trading artillery rounds could still be considered trading though. Live trading
I will use these funds and my own money to do more station trading but also some more region trading if it isn't working out so well. But hopefully it will! Hmmm decisions decision! I wasn't expecting an uncollateralized offer if I take that one it is really high interest rate considering I would set myself a minimum 15% margin for trades. But it means I keep a larger BPO collection to produce from
The 50/50 split one at 10% seems to be the best deal. I'm not keen on not having less options! I will hopefully finish my little girl errands this weekend and look to start on Monday if not Tuesday and then we can decide how to split the loot! I mean the collateral |
Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.10 19:19:00 -
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Quote:Hi uncie Tom and ahm Brollox
Just call me Bro............then you won't blush!!!
Have fun, Fly safe and make isk :) I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.12 11:00:00 -
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Hey guys! I am moving all the collateral into one location for ease of contracting. They are only a few jumps out from Jita in high sec. Please let me know how you want to split it then I can sort out contracts so it will be 2bn for 10% overall right? With 50/50 collateral between Tom and Bro and I keep the teddy bear Charon
You know, I'm still suspicious of the milkshake Tom left spilled on the bridge roof. I hope these ships are given back nice and clean and with the fluffy dice still attached! |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.12 12:48:00 -
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Hi there o/
If you set-up a contract for 1Bill, with 500 M collateral (valued as in your file) I will accept it later today.
I don't really care which of the collateral I get, but as you know I like to fly around in other persons ships, so it might be nice to leave some of my souveneirs in your Mael and ORca as well ;-)
o/ |
Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.12 14:55:00 -
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Tom Hagen wrote:Hi there o/
If you set-up a contract for 1Bill, with 500 M collateral (valued as in your file) I will accept it later today.
I don't really care which of the collateral I get, but as you know I like to fly around in other persons ships, so it might be nice to leave some of my souveneirs in your Mael and ORca as well ;-)
o/
Yep count me in on the same terms if Tom wants the ships I am happy to thumb through the BPO's whilst looking at my 'gentlemans art' collection, so I will appolagise in advance if some are stuck together when I return them I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.12 20:00:00 -
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According to the calcumatron it will work out 60/40 split if I give ships to one and BPOs to the other, so to make it closer to 50/50 I will give contract of ships and ship component BPOs to Tom and remaining BPOs to Bro. I will do this tomorrow |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.13 15:12:00 -
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Hiya! Collateral contracts are up. It isn't exact 50/50 but it's close enough. You two can always mud wrestle to determine who should have got the slightly bigger amount haha Actually on second thoughts hmmm maybe people would pay to watch that?? |
Brollox
League of Gentlemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.09.13 15:53:00 -
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A Little Girl wrote:Hiya! Collateral contracts are up. It isn't exact 50/50 but it's close enough. You two can always mud wrestle to determine who should have got the slightly bigger amount haha Actually on second thoughts hmmm maybe people would pay to watch that??
Accepted have fun and make isk :P
If they'll pay I will play I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.13 19:13:00 -
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Contract accepted --> ISK sent.
GLHF - I will make my mark on the shiny new ships (but of course clean it up afterwards) |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.20 11:17:00 -
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Hi guys! Well I thought I would try to give some more information this time so I will try to give some weekly reports! Because I know you guys like Microsoft Evecell or Google Evedocs haha
But seriously! Sadly I have been very busy and did not yet make full use of the huge big pile of money which I put under the bed for safe keeping. I will try to get some charts later when I find where I put the crayons!
Soooo my plan was to use 3bn. 2bn to station trade and 1bn of my own pennies to transport stuff. Because of little girl errands and some other things I had to do in the real world where they don't have space ships I have only been able to use about 1bn trading with a high point of 1.8bn Guess what I did there haha
Don't worry your pretty heads though! I already made 200m profit so even if I pulled all the buy orders I can already pay everything back! So from now on everything is pure profit If current business trendings continue to be trendy and don't go funky (?????) then I should finish with another 600m for myself if I keep this rate of profit. Hopefully it will be more because I will have some more free time in the coming weeks!
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A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.26 07:20:00 -
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Hi guys! Time for a slightly early update for second week. Captain's log, stardate from last post in here to now
Doing even better! Sorry still not found the crayons. I think my hamster ate them. He must have done it for revenge because I use his hamster cage to power the freighter engines.
Soooo here is a screenshot of wallet to date with swisy swashy blurry wurry hidey widey details haha
http://i.imgur.com/HWTKe.jpg
Now I know screenshots can be faked but after this loan is finished I will try to get various screens and maybe videos from Eve Wallet Aware and some other programs to help verify performance without giving my super special secrets away!
I am keeping 1bn in the wallet "in case" (and also for transport) and enough to cover the margin orders. Sadly I did not do as much inter region trading as I would have liked.
Progress is even better than first week. I am currently on about 650m profit, effective from 14 September. If I don't count today, because it is still early, this makes it 650m over 12 days! Very pleased even if I do say so myself!
Well that's the good news, but now some possibly bad news. I may be very busy in real life after this week, maybe next week. So I might not be able to use the full 30 days duration. IF this is the case would you guys be agreeable to one week early finish and pro-rata the interest for 3 weeks??
I do not know for certain yet but will know the score this week. I am hoping I can continue because at the current rate I will hopefully have 1bn total profit before interest in time for start of final week. So IF I finish then it would be 50% return on 2bn loan, which is like, totally awesome haha and even higher if I can continue for the final week.
Let me know guys please. |
Brollox
Zen Gaming
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Posted - 2011.09.27 20:18:00 -
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Yep thats fine ith me I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.09.28 11:09:00 -
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Thanks Brollox! Ummmm you look different somehow! Have you had a haircut?? I already spoke with Tom ingame and he is agreeable also. The reason I am asking is because I might be offline due to real life stuff for a while so need to conclude this before the internet connection gets turned off temporarily
Current total profit margin is about 750m as of this moment so I am still hopefully on track for 1 bn profit in 3 weeks total which I would like to think is a good result for someone who is not a dedicated station trader I shared some thoughts with Tom where I'd like to go afterwards but I'll put those up later. Watch this space for updates on IRL situation! |
Brollox
Zen Gaming
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Posted - 2011.09.29 13:31:00 -
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Cause I wanted to be 'leet' I bought a monicle and then hid it using welding goggles....... cause thats how I roll!!
I am happy to roll with whatever you want to do, if you have plans for the future drop me a line and I will see what we can do but I am more than happy to help you out Little Girl. I used to be a Killer ............
Now I am Market Warrior and Investor |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.10.01 10:15:00 -
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Hey guys well it looks like it is confirmed at very short notice! So sadly I have to finish this as soon as possible just over a week early. I believe I have made a total profit of 1bn already probably more. When I am back online I will give some more details/analysis.
Please can you guys put up contracts as soon as possible since I don't want to leave anyone hanging possibly for weeks So 7.5% is ok for 3 weeks total? Well just a teeny bit under 3 weeks. I hope you are happy with this, if really is a problem I'll just give the full 10% for the 4 weeks and write off the last week as unused. Please let me know and have contracts up soon as you can |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
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Posted - 2011.10.01 18:13:00 -
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P'kawk! Pok! Pok! Pok! Such rosey cheeks lol
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Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.02 16:00:00 -
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Contract is up! |
Tom Hagen
Twilight Empire Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.02 18:41:00 -
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ISK recived!
Thank you very much. Good luck with your IRL stuff! |
A Little Girl
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Posted - 2011.10.02 18:42:00 -
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Finger lickin' good indeed Well Tom and Brollox have been repaid in full plus interest. I hope to be back online in a couple of weeks time. Such a shame could not complete the 4 weeks but overall I think it went very well indeed and probably much better than anticipated.
I was aiming for minimum 15% return but the way it went it was on course for 100% return possibly even more. Finishing one week early it is over 50% return which is not bad for a little girl
Future plans? Weeeeelll trading was fun but can be quite demanding. I am more used to production and transport. I may open a shop and I will most likely be moving to produce in null. That means some more training for one of my characters so it may be a month or two before that surfaces. For that I will probably try to arrange some sort of proof/auditing which does not give away who my characters are and what I am involved with but can hopefully still prove myself
Well it was fun but now I have to go pick up all the teddy bears and make up my room. See you guys soon *snuggles*
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