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Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Fortuna Cournot on 15/04/2008 12:15:16
I would like to reopen the thread from 2005: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=183044
I have an 3D Monitor and request CCP to support it. It needs not to be supported directly, but the rendering must be truely 3D. Currently there is some kind of bug that prevents me to get a stereoscopic view. The right and left image are identic. Perhaps it is just a transformation problem, and the coordinates of the viewer are not normalized ?! ------ ineve.net Character Skill Showroom My EVE Link Collection |
Astria Tiphareth
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Posted - 2008.04.15 13:58:00 -
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Might help them if you said which monitor - indeed in the first instance it might be worth posting this in the Tech Support forum and see if you can get assistance on getting it working?
When last I checked, stereo imaging required different views for each eye and typically only OpenGL supported this. However I may well be vastly out of date. Does it work on other DirectX-based games? ___ "If you can't debate using logic & fact, and at least recognise other people's point of view, don't waste time posting on forums. It only makes you look like a teenage idiot." |
Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 14:16:00 -
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The Monitor is a Zalman ZM-M220W.
I run it with Vista 32, and i have graphic device driver with 3D support: NVIDIA driver Forceware 174.74 (Final Beta), 3D driver 174.76 (Final Beta)
Yes, it works on DirectX-based games. A couple of games produce correct result, e.g. the witcher (red/green screenshot), others a producing wrong result like EVE online, and for some games the 3d system is completly unavailable and unsupported.
I think it is useless to contact Tech Support. I thought of it first, too. But i expect them to help with existing solutions and not to implement features. ------ ineve.net Character Skill Showroom My EVE Link Collection |
Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:28:00 -
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So you wear like 3d glasses all the time and things actually pop out of your monitor and such?
That's pretty damn cool.
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Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:34:00 -
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You could ask in the eve technology lab, people that read it seem to be the most interested in such stuff.
PS : That would be damn cool to have it in real 3D. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast !
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Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.15 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards So you wear like 3d glasses all the time and things actually pop out of your monitor and such?
That's pretty damn cool.
The interlace monitors need passive glasses, yes.
But there are more expensive monitors (1000$) that don't need it. But i will wait until prices a dropping. Guess it takes another 1-2 years.
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Clansworth
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.15 19:15:00 -
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I have used the older nvidia drivers with eve for over a year now. Unfortunately, I dont' think it works with Vista. If you have an XP install around, try using the older stereo drivers.. I think the zalman monitors work in vertical interleave mode.
I currently play eve sometimes on my 61" Samsung DLP3D tv... 1080p full 3d glory... I sometimes forget to drag my ore because I'm marveling at my strips blasting through the magnificent the asteroid belts.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.04.15 20:00:00 -
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Eve is not at fault, works fine for me. Granted, for a given value of fine.
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Mithfindel
Argent Group
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Posted - 2008.04.16 09:06:00 -
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Also, I'd assume that the effect is less dramatic than in many first-person games, since the scale is quite immense - objects are usually multiple (tens of) kilometers away from the point of view.
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Clansworth
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.16 15:22:00 -
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Actually, the effect is VERY impressive, if set up properly. The fact that everything in eve truely is to scale is why the 3D effect is so good. Of course, I'm of the 3D camp that thinks the 3d 'effect' should be unnoticable. I hate when 3D movies throw stuff in your face, as it disrupts the realism. 3D looks best when it turns the screen into a window. That is how eve looks when set up properly, you are looking through a window into the eve universe, and it is a beautiful universe.
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Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.17 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Clansworth I have used the older nvidia drivers with eve for over a year now. Unfortunately, I dont' think it works with Vista. If you have an XP install around, try using the older stereo drivers.. I think the zalman monitors work in vertical interleave mode.
Ah, ok so it seems to be a vista bug !? I'll try to Petition it. Thanks for the information. |
Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.18 12:25:00 -
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I got the Information over a petition that "EvE does not support any of these methods of alternate rendering."
So it is still the right place to push it in. ------ ineve.net Character Skill Showroom My EVE Link Collection |
Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.04.18 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Fortuna Cournot I got the Information over a petition that "EvE does not support any of these methods of alternate rendering."
So it is still the right place to push it in.
The right place would be NVIDIA. Their old stereo drivers do work with EVE, their new vista stereo driver apparently doesn't. Still, it might be a problem with your setup.
Don't expect game developers to take 3D into account, penetration of 3D capable equipment is much to low to take the owners into consideration as consumers. |
Fortuna Cournot
Caldari Special Unit Omega Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2008.04.18 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw The right place would be NVIDIA. Their old stereo drivers do work with EVE, their new vista stereo driver apparently doesn't. Still, it might be a problem with your setup.
Please provide a link to screenshot of it, that i can send to nvidea together with my screenshot. First i thought it works in eve, but then i detected it is not working properly. Thank you. ------ ineve.net Character Skill Showroom My EVE Link Collection |
Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.04.18 20:02:00 -
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Oddly enough, I was just reading a review of this thing and it seems like that for gaming it's pretty good, but for regular use it's too shiny. What are your thoughts? //// ---------=== []= ---------=== \\\\ Rifter(RedBad)
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Inga Timers
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Posted - 2008.04.20 02:33:00 -
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Actually eve supports Natural point head tracking. Check it out http://www.naturalpoint.com
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Katana Seiko
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.04.20 12:47:00 -
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Quote: NVIDIA driver Forceware 174.74 (Final Beta), 3D driver 174.76 (Final Beta)
Maybe that's the problem... It's Beta - no guarantee that it actually works... --- "Multiple exclamation marks are a sure sign for a diseased mind." -Terry Pratchett |
Clansworth
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.20 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Inga Timers Actually eve supports Natural point head tracking. Check it out http://www.naturalpoint.com
I'm not sure Naturalpoint would work well with the 3D effects. If it were an HMD wiht the naturalpoint, it would be great, but i think the two would almost fight each other...
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