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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:13:00 -
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 Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: Hana Lena
So if Ankhesentapemkah is going to stop this kind of thing then thats where my vote will be going.
But as far as i understand, baiting noobs in starter systems, is a offense which you can petition, isn't it?
I have never done it, so i cant tell. But i remember reading it somewhere.
It is petitionable. Note that this applies to the starter systems only.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ankhesentapemkah
:recyclealts:
a.) Petitionable. If you think someone is recycling alts to get around the sec status loss, petition them. I can guarantee you this is an extreme minority of suicide gankers.
b.) Not feasible. Most suicide gankers use the minimum amount of ship to get the job done and cut down on costs. Because of this, good skills in gunnery/missiles/drones are needed to maximize the DPS output before the ship is destroyed. Far and away the most common gank ship is the battlecruiser, which conveniently enough, can't be trained on trial accounts. Ganking mission runners are done with BS, which is yet another ship trial accounts can't train.
tl;dr: Recycling alts honestly isn't a problem.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ethaet
This doesn't work with suiciders as most of them are alts, who never fly anything else, and get biomassed when their sec gets too low (which is also an exploit incidentally)
Say it with me: This. Is. Not. True. You are showing your lack of familiarity with the subject matter every time you post this. Do you know why people don't gank with throwaway alts? Because you cannot train the skills to reliably gank anything in two weeks, and nobody is going to take time away from training their main to train alts. People gank with their mains because their mains are the ones that have the skills to reliably kill things. Quit posting this drivel on the forums.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
BTW with respect to freighters: If I can profitably use one in 0.0, I fail to see why they can't be usefully used in empire.
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It's because every day literally hundreds of freighters are suicided all across New Eden. In fact, you can't go 10 jumps without seeing the burning carcass of these once majestic ships surrounded by the wrecks of their suiciders, like so many hyenas.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: Efdi on 24/04/2008 22:52:55
Originally by: Una D
Also removing the insurance payout will increase the "magic limit" for the profitable ganking making it possible to use freighters a bit more efficiently since they are kinda pointless now (most things are so expensive that breaking the 1bil value is stupidly easy).
I don't know where you got this magic limit of 1b in a freighter. I'll refrence you to my previous post to my experience with this matter, so I do know what I'm talking about. I have never heard of anyone suiciding a freighter with less than 2b in cargo. Most of the ganks I've seen planned have shot for a minimum of 3b. Simply put, 1b (actually 500m since half of the cargo, on average, blows up) split 12-15 ways at a minimum is simply not worth the effort. I'll take it a step further. I have been playing for nearly a year and a half. During that time, I have associated mainly with people who are prone to do such things as suicide gank freighters. I have personally witnessed no more than half a dozen attempts at freighter ganks, of which I believe only 4 were successful. I have only heard of maybe 2-3 more. Freighter ganks are not common and they are far from a 100% thing.
The fact of the matter is, there is so much forum hype about these things. I would say at a minimum half of everything said about suicide ganking is blatantly and flagrantly incorrect, another quarter is not quite accurate, and only around 25% is factual.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.24 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
I hear that a single 800k SP alt in a laser thrasher can kill a freighter in 0.5 c/d?
Actually, a 800k SP alt in a shuttle can insta-pop a freighter in 1.0 systems.
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Efdi
Minmatar
Brannigan's Law
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Posted - 2008.04.25 12:44:00 -
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Originally by: Siigari Kitawa
Losing ships is just a part of THE GAME.
And on that note, you've all just lost. You may now resume your regularly scheduled forum antics.
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