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Ravenhair
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Posted - 2004.04.24 19:12:00 -
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Wich alliances are there? and what do they stand for
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:49:00 -
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One for every 0.0 region at least and they all stand for the killing of everyone else, nothing more.
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EvilWezal
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Posted - 2004.04.24 20:58:00 -
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We protect our Area of space from Pirates and Tresspassors.
Some alliances are meaner then others, some are nicer. Depends on the Alliance. but what Dan says is totally Wrong.
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2004.04.24 22:49:00 -
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I heard CA are communists :P |
Viceroy
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Posted - 2004.04.24 22:49:00 -
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The Pwnage Alliance claims all 0.4 and lower security level systems. All who tresspass shall be exterminated or forced to pay tribute. Thanks.
King Viceroy IV Pwnage Alliance EVE -
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HyperBaton
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Posted - 2004.04.24 22:52:00 -
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Quote: I heard CA are communists :P
Capitalism is just as bad
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Insane Angel
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Posted - 2004.04.25 05:26:00 -
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Edited by: Insane Angel on 25/04/2004 05:27:42
Originally by: Viceroy The Pwnage Alliance claims all 0.4 and lower security level systems. All who tresspass shall be exterminated or forced to pay tribute. Thanks.
King Viceroy IV Pwnage Alliance EVE
Heh, every post by you Viceroy c-r-a-c-k-s me up.
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Susan Chase
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Posted - 2004.04.25 05:48:00 -
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CA = curse all SA = Slaughter all FA = fvck all PA = Punish all Norad = Negative opertunistic racially aggressive dentists Xetic = Xenophobic ecentric totally ignorant cnuts
@Danton Marcellus: explain this bit of your siggy "The lagoliers ate my bellybutton."
@Viceroy: j00 pwn fs
@those discussing comunism/capitalism: just kill ppl and stfu already
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Propehcy
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Posted - 2004.04.25 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Susan Chase CA = curse all SA = Slaughter all FA = fvck all PA = Punish all Norad = Negative opertunistic racially aggressive dentists Xetic = Xenophobic ecentric totally ignorant cnuts
@Danton Marcellus: explain this bit of your siggy "The lagoliers ate my bellybutton."
@Viceroy: j00 pwn fs
@those discussing comunism/capitalism: just kill ppl and stfu already
LOL.
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Bele gorri
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Posted - 2004.04.25 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: EvilWezal We protect our Area of space from Pirates and Tresspassors.
Some alliances are meaner then others, some are nicer. Depends on the Alliance. but what Dan says is totally Wrong.
The word our is the point. A group of corps go to a region of space and claim it ( it must be a group, since a sole corp cant't "protect" it.
Either you get a "pass" (paying exactly the same way you'd pay a pirate to cross a gate) or you get killed ( exactly the same way a pirate would kill you)
0.0 areas are extremly rich and the corps that can hold them are among the richest corps in eve, and btw it's cool to own a part of the game
Me, and as it looks like you too, have to live with it. Alliances are part of the game and are not going to dissapear.
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tetsu
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Posted - 2004.04.25 10:12:00 -
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And no replays on the main topic.. ==================
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Inflatable Teen
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Posted - 2004.04.25 10:24:00 -
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http://www.eveguardian.com/misc/maps/latest.jpg
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.25 14:42:00 -
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Edited by: Lallante on 25/04/2004 14:43:38 CA - Curse Alliance
Holds 1/5 of eve and has around 1/30 of the playerbase
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2004.04.25 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
CA - Curse Alliance
Holds 1/5 of eve and has around 1/30 of the playerbase
CA has 1500 members now?
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2004.04.25 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Morkt Drak
Originally by: Lallante
CA - Curse Alliance
Holds 1/5 of eve and has around 1/30 of the playerbase
CA has 1500 members now?
One suspects an awful lot of those are alts Morkt ;)
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.25 18:49:00 -
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EvilWezal then explain why every time you enter an alliance territory they want to kill you, regardless of your business there.
Now we got some former alliance veteran and his two alts declaring war on us, over this statement perhaps?
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:03:00 -
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You don't exactly endear yourself to your fellow man though do you Danton?
Hell, I'd imagine any who has the misfortune to read these boards would take a shot at you given half the chance.
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:28:00 -
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To my 'fellow man' as in peer I believe I do, I'm here to voice my opinion for a better game, not to be the complementary yesmen to the powers that be this perticular week.
I thought the yesman gene was a carebear trait and as such persecuted by these diehard PvP alliance people.
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Lallante
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:43:00 -
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Quote:
CA has 1500 members now?
yes
Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
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Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.25 19:59:00 -
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Sorry Danton. I don't know what came over me. I should of just posted "because you're a c**t".
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.04.25 20:03:00 -
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Danton is talking himself into the full alt-war package.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Macumba
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Posted - 2004.04.25 20:07:00 -
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Alt-wars are so last week Josh. Just get another account.
"PVP = griefing" Papa Smurf |
Ithildin
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Posted - 2004.04.25 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Susan Chase Xetic = Xenophobic ecentric totally ignorant cnuts
I respect that X is a hard letter to come up with a word for, but "cnuts"? Come one! We aren't cnuts. I am just amazed you didn't use (the more accurate) popular bashing-bat "carebear"
Originally by: Bele gorri 0.0 areas are extremly rich and the corps that can hold them are among the richest corps in eve, and btw it's cool to own a part of the game
Me, and as it looks like you too, have to live with it. Alliances are part of the game and are not going to dissapear.
Alliances makes the game. Trudging around in Empires space is fine and so, but it's when you get yourself out in the cutting edge politics of the alliances that you are truely playing the game to it's full potential and beyond (alliances are player initiative, and will be getting game feature support soonÖ)
Some alliances aren't quite as evil as some people wish to make them look like. The same is true for some corporations. Only problem some of the non-alliance players have is that they aren't taking the right things into consideration. When you are in an alliance claiming space there are several issues that arise when a pilot enters that space, whatever his buisiness is there, some of these questions arise: * is he preparing bookmarks for hostile invasion? * is he looking for industrials to shoot down? * will he try to disrupt mining operations? * is he scouting weaknessess? * will he attack one of our neighbours, who expect us to guard their back via a diplomatic agreement with us? * will he and his friends come down here and reap our asteroid fields?
Some alliances accept payment for mining/hunting passes, but what these are in reality is a way of keeping the control over a region. And keeping that region safe.
Some alliances are not accepting payments for passes and are killing people on sight, this is mostly due to other corporations/alliances hostilities towards that alliance, and they cannot take chances.
Originally by: Ravenhair Wich alliances are there? and what do they stand for
Hard to say. Alliances change over time, with the flow of diplomacy. I can only speak for what Xetic Alliance stand for, and then I am only an officer in a corporation of Xetic Immensea Federation, not a diplomat (i.e. what I say is my oppinion, not XIF's)
Our alliance is a mostly peaceful industrial alliance, with keen intrests in keeping good diplomatic connections and relations with our neighbors. We are wedged between Curse Aliiance and Stain Alliance (and lately C4), which are fiercly at war with each other. Due to this war, one of the initial goals of our alliance, to provide a safe and friendly region for Empires corporations to mine in, has been shredded. We are struggling with keeping our own members safe. A great thank you goes out to Arcane Technologies for the most recent incursion into our space. The fighting was good, the experience apreciated, and the after-combat talk was open minded and honourable. Xetic Alliance tolerate no piracy among it's ranks, and we are one of the few alliances with no rogue corporations (or indeed players). Our relations with Curse Alliance has always been good, inspite of some corporations open claim to be rogue of CA agreements. Relations with Stain Alliance is a touchy subject at the moment, so I can't tell anything there.
Hope this answers your question on the Xetic Immensea Alliance --
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Crass Spektakel
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Posted - 2004.04.25 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 25/04/2004 21:42:55 Edited by: Crass Spektakel on 25/04/2004 21:42:16 Whoever says he needs no Alliance should just wait until some small wannabe pirate corp blows their haulers and miners up.
Alliances do not start to fight other alliances (or at least those alliances are the shortlived ones), they start to protect their assets. Noone can put a PvP-Battleship, a NPC-Battleship and a Interceptor next to every hauler and every miner. But it easy to seal of a region with ten battleships and twenty supporters at chokepoints and clean the region of its valuables with specialist fleets. We are not talking about the medium-size corp who is happy to mine 1000 Gneiss each evening in Syndicate, we are talking about miningfleets of twenty ships hauling Bistot like other haul Veldspar.
Wars begins when the first lines of protection is confronted too often.
Crass Spektakel
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Danton Marcellus
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Posted - 2004.04.25 22:39:00 -
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Let the alliance people waste their time hunting me in empire space, I'll just have more space in 0.0 to mine.
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myggan
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Posted - 2004.04.26 01:25:00 -
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ravenhair incredibal how u could miss it its a sticky on in the top of this forum called allians map bye DP mephisto that is one of the best maps around enjoy it mate :)
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Ravenhair
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Posted - 2004.04.27 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: myggan ravenhair incredibal how u could miss it its a sticky on in the top of this forum called allians map bye DP mephisto that is one of the best maps around enjoy it mate :)
Didnt miss it, it just dont say WHAT the Alliances stands for. Thats what i want to know =)
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2004.04.27 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 27/04/2004 10:13:56 The actual stances of the alliances do not differ much, with two exceptions.
I would say all alliances can be split into three groups, two of which only hold one alliance or block of them.
1. The peacefull alliance avoiding confrontation, focusing on industry with little PvP intrest. Only member of this group: Xetic/IF. They dont do harm to those that leave em be. They are reasonably succesfull at that.
2. The neutral-good aligned ones WITH a militairy intrest, that actively secure their space and dont shy fom a war or two now and then. These alliances typically oftenly sell passes and are mostly occupied with keeping petty pirates away, whenever they arent at war with group 3, 1 or another alliance from group 2. Members of this group: FA, SA, CFS, PA and some of the smaller stuff out there. In general these alliance have a 'nice' front but a somewhat less nice inner scene. I.E., they arent as nice as they can talk, they just still care about public opinion.
3. The generally disliked very aggresive militairy style alliance. Commonly mistaken for pirates these people have been at war so long that it comes as second nature, and as such they dont accept any incursion in any territory they currently are traveling in. NAP's with them are mostly rare, but once established will be abided by other then some would want you belive they are actually quite honourable on alliance level. Only members: Curse Alliance/C4 alliance
Now at the moment CA is the biggest one around, with FA/SA/PA comnign after that and Xetic near to that too. CFS is generally ignored by most and the rest doesnt count at all except locally.
Edit: Of course being CA im a dead giveaway pirate -baby eating griefing son of a ***** scumbag without enough braincells to even smacktalk effectively. So don't belive a word I say and go and attack em right away. /sarcasm off _______________________________________________
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Mitchello
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Posted - 2004.04.27 14:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ravenhair Wich alliances are there? and what do they stand for
hard to tell soemtimes but my best guess was suplied to me via a friend:
Pheonix Alliance is neutral towrds everyone at the moment accpet they backstabbed thier allies and work for CA
The Norad group Is at war with FE and their CA allies. They have naps with FA and PA
FA is in civil war and are also at war with CA and FE, but freinds with everyone else.
CFS are NAP with everyone but CA and are pretty much fyucked because m0o has them on the run
SA is at war with CA FE(somewhat we never really see em) and C4
C4/CA are at war with everyone except PA
FE(CA) same as CA but we dont fight SA much just FA(when the do come to fight) and the NORAD,CoD,and FU (Fade Union)
also I'll add Iron Core Allaince as an anti-pirate force and in sydicate there are two non-****head allainces. I'd sugest contacting Clipped Wings in game for more details. Those two allaicnes are fighting Killer Clowns right now I beleive.
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Waagaa Ktlehr
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Posted - 2004.04.27 14:42:00 -
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Originally by: Susan Chase Xetic = Xenophobic ecentric totally ignorant cnuts
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