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Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:02:00 - [1] The attack on MC home systems has begun. BoB has reinforced all POSes in 1-n and is pushing forward to other systems according to kb's and SHC. Sad way to see MC falling. Only km on bob side are from POSes but seems BOB has deployed it doomsday weapon. What does the future hold for MC if it does not manage to hold onto 1-N? What happens to Loxyrider video's. Can he join bob and make new vids. Which Bob corp is calling dibs on loxy.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.27 21:09:00 - [2] Originally by: ***lard a day late and a buck short sorry had a long weekend away
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.27 23:37:00 - [3] What is the mood of the members within the MC alliance? Are they up for a fight and risk loosing all there assets in the 1-N station or try for a diplomatic solution to get there stuff out? It well known that they are pro and anti-bob members within MC and I cannot see the pro-Bob member willing to put there assets on the line to appease the anti-bob MC members. This is no flame and I am sure player on both sides would like to know the answer.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:15:00 - [4] It seems like Bob will soon be taking over the 1-N station. This is where most of the Tortuga pilots have there stuff. I really do hope that BoB has a plan in place to deal with all the displaced MC pilots. Maybe they can give them temporary blue to allow them to move there stuff out as there are many pro-bob pilots who where only following orders. I heard it is due to so many pro-Bob pilots in MC was the reason the anti-BoB leaders in MC could not muster enough support amongst its pilots to attack BoB in Delve. Many lucky pro-Bob pilots have already joined BoB, and I suppose a few more will apply to join BoB corps but many have remained loyal to their corps and MC and would be a shame to see these pilots get grieved and see all there stuff get blown up as they try to evacuate. Like I implied in the OP, I hope Bob has a plan in place to somehow get these really good loyal cap equipped and trained pilots on there side somehow. They know the PB region and can protect it better than anyone. please I got a mate in MC, and they are OK. I blame mynas
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.28 15:39:00 - [5] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram And I'm not saying that any Bob is doing this or even would consider doing. Bob already crossed that line I personally never would cross (and I have had the opportunity to do so) and I just hope that this RL abuse was a single event. That a good enough reply for ya? I remember arguing with Dianabolic/DaFuzz years ago about BOB crossing lines out of game which ran the potential for real life consequences. Hers's one interpretation of the UK's Computer Misuse Act 1990, and how Section 1 (ie upto 6 months imprisonment) could apply to some things that people view as acceptable in this game. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1990/ukpga_19900018_en_1.htm "The only precondition to liability is that the hacker should be aware that the access attempted is unauthorized. Thus, using another person's username or identifier (ID) and password without proper authority to access data or a program, or to alter, delete, copy or move a program or data, or simply to output a program or data to a screen or printer, or to impersonate that other person using e-mail, online chat, web or other services, constitute the offence. Even if the initial access is authorized, subsequent exploration if there is a hierarchy of privileges in the system, may lead to entry to parts of the system for which the requisite privileges are lacking and the offence will be committed." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Misuse_Act_1990 So is an out of game forum, accessed by my character name covered? Or my real life name? Looking forward to reading about the first time someone attempts a prosecution over it. Though if I remember correctly FinFleet just discussed it and didn't involve the appropriate legal authorities. Myn what are you smoking?
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.28 23:37:00 - [6] Edited by: Murtala on 28/04/2008 23:43:38 Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Its the sand in my .... well you know. But its just entertaining to see Bob making up all excuses. Like they knew all along they were going to back stab them. And they let them do it because of the friendship. But later on back stabbed them anyway because they had it coming. They were never any good anyway. MC will die, nobody likes them anymore. .. yada yada. Did they ever occur to them that the 'grand plan' of Bob was to tick off as many people as possible in order to get their epic final last stand (pt1) and MC wasn't in on this? And they now blame MC for this? Tbh, MC shot at BoB first. And continued to shot at then when they ganged up with their, MC, natual enemies to continue to shoot BoB. Bob only now retaliating after they beat back the nap train. And like molle said when you took period basis "Sorry, no" EDIT = Tortuga video for posterity
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.29 10:39:00 - [7] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel LAWL , the amount of emo nerd rage here is just hilarious. I agree with Aio ppl just forget they are playing an interweb spaceship game emo rage adds extra value and dimension to an otherwise ordinary internerd spaceship game. so get with the emo rage, let it all out, you will feel better for it
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.29 12:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Cptn Obvious Originally by: Abriana Overlord Killed first titan, killed most titans (3), has more titans than any other alliance...... 2 of them were offline lmao they still generate killmails
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.29 13:51:00 - [9] Edited by: Murtala on 29/04/2008 13:52:54 I watch the kb. They speak volumes. BoB killboards are the best for drama. On it, there are lots of MC bs killmails but when you check the fittings, there are very few guns. Some ships have no fittings at all. I think it is official MC are NOT fighting back since they have suicide/insurance fraud most of their ships. To be honest, it seems 1-N is heavily camped by Bob judging by the number of hostiles on the killmail, and EvE has no game mechanics for an honourable surrender. EvE is harsh. I suppose suicide is better than giving BOB the satisfaction of a futile fight. I dunno why they did not stick a few repping carriers on the cyno jammer, in the first place afterall they knew an attack was going to happen eventually; but for how long.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.29 23:41:00 - [10] Edited by: Murtala on 29/04/2008 23:41:42 Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram You guys said MC FC sucked and lost their PvP abilities. That's why they are being mopped up right as we speak. Besides goons are only good at blobbing and spamming local with their usual smack. Dude, your main is obviously anti-BoB leadership in MC and if so grow balls for once and post with your main. If not then you do not know what your talking about, honestly.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.30 08:18:00 - [11] Originally by: SirMolle The reason why MC is in this situation is simple, they engaged our sov systems in PB. The MC fallout started earlier, with Mynas conspiring with FIX to attack BoB. Thats where we stood up and said "Boot Mynas". They didnt. We let it slide, and did nothing, MC then turned 180 and attacked us. Everything after that has been bad choices from MC leaders. IF MC had come to us, asking for PB, and telling us what they were planning, instead of going in guns blazing, things would have been different for MC now. At the very least, we would have given them a clear yes or no, and a choice, and i'm inclined to think we would actually have given them PB, altho thats impossible to tell. The poor excuse for MC we see now, is a result of the leaders changing standings every two days for the last 4 weeks. The cleaning up phase begun when MC failed to try defending. Die in peace, it was good having you around. I was wondering if FIX could confirm conspiring with MC to attacks BoB. But then it really does not matter because MC found allies in Dashio, 0utbreak, Evoke and KIA to attack BOB instead. Seems Mynas is to blame and where was Selenne or Dri when all this was happening. I also blame MC killboard watching for there defeat. They post so many comments after the lose of there ship and some have a hint of smack for the MC pilot who lost the ship. This surely will discourage there members from loosing ships. The best way to prevent loosing ships is to stay docked. One person could make a difference and I blame Mynas. Quoting Molle FTW
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.30 15:48:00 - [12] Ghaelsto Kakram is either a Mynas or NightHawk VenGarden. Mynas also posts with his main but seem to be schizophrenic. NightHawk VenGarden is noticeable by his COAD absence and is a bitter anti-Bob MC leader.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.04.30 22:26:00 - [13] I think everyone sees EvE as a game and ropleplaying on COAD is a major part of it. CCP probably recognises this and is why COAD is not as heavily modded as SHC. The moar smack we have in COAD, the more motivated we are in game. It is also called propaganda.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 10:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Dang, I needed that sleep pretty badly. MC dead yet? Sleep is good, open curtains and smile at the effect Eve has had on you and then realise why Eve is a good game. But still only a game and think, "I'll be back" In the game, MC lost and the smack posted on COAD are only there to add extra drama to an otherwise seemingly dull failure cascade of MC. BOB joy in winning is directly proportional to the bitterness of yours and the losers posts and your posts have made BOB victory sweeter, regardless of whether you have valid point or not. History is written by the winners. Sad, but true.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 10:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Narciss Sevar To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women! I prefer the moans of the women over the lamentation any time. I get too much lamentation at home already. Also, bitter Ghaelsto Kakram, do you think if you have a valid argument on COAD and it was found that you and MC were right and BoB was wrong that Bob would suddenly realise the errors of there ways and withdraw from 1-n and offer reimbursements. NO !! It does not matter what is said here. Your whinging, hacking, exploiting, history lessons etc claims simply brings a smile to each and every GBC members face as they feel your pain. Take a deep breath, grin and say good fight. Then ask yourself why if your POS in Y-CWQY could kill 20 battleship, then why wasn't a couple of repping carriers placed on that and other poses in H74 and 1-N Think about it hard and realise, you were not ready to play at the level you aspired to.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 11:12:00 - [16] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Murtala BOB joy in winning is directly proportional to the bitterness of yours and the losers posts and your posts have made BOB victory sweeter, regardless of whether you have valid point or not. Does winning ever get dull? What would Bob really get fired up since there are hardly any real challenges left? Ghaelsto Kakram, the reason I am asking you to chill out is because I am was very pro MC and still have a mate in MC. Nothing you say here will make any difference, nor does it help the existing MC members trapped with all there stuff in 1-N get there stuff out. Also there are many very proud and competent MC members that are cringing from your whinging and just want you to shut up. Most of them did not know nor cared about the politics, they were very good grunts and there leaders led them to where they are now. Those MC leaders still have access to the corp wallet and assets will probably come out of the collapse of MC extremely wealthy as they share the corp assets amongst themselves. Where is all the income from the uber moon mining, the tons of mins, pbo, ships etc going. Meanwhile its member are left to suicide there BS to recover some isk and listen to you, whose probably a MC leader with a fat wallet whine to the amusement of Bob members about political stuff they were not even aware of. STFU
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 11:56:00 - [17] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram Originally by: Murtala I am was very pro MC and still have a spy in MC. Those MC leaders still have access to the corp wallet and assets will probably come out of the collapse of MC extremely wealthy as they share the corp assets amongst themselves. I see what you did there. Smearing MC leaders still. That's not smart if you want to recruit them. I am not in BoB and I am sure BOB has enough resources of there own. Bob does not have a COAD ban, mine does. But the MC grunts, who is loosing all his stuff would also like to know where those assets are going. Eddz got a titan, so he is as happy as a pig in mud, what does the other leaders getting. Eddz is not going to admit to mining the minerals for the titan himself, is he? The grunts suicideing BS's, paid for it. Since MC is collapsing why donÆt the leaders share the assets. At the very least they can give all member access to view the corp wallet and hangers. Or are greed, secrecy and panic looting going on at moment amongst the leaders or have you already decided, who gets what. Discuss
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 12:26:00 - [18] Edited by: Murtala on 01/05/2008 12:28:48 And another point is that while the MC leadership is smacking Bob they could have, and still can, I presume, discuss surrender terms with Bob to allow MC grunts withdraw there stuff from the region with some dignity. It would benefit Bob too as they wont have to days of pos clearing out and might give you guys a hope of staying together to rebuild. Yet the MC leaders seem intent on holding on to sov and smacking BOB, thereby trapping there members in the 1-N station for nothing. This diverts attention from the corp assets. I have not seen an MC leadership loss mail. This seriously leads me to believe they are going for failure cascade with no plans to salvage the alliance or there corp as this leave them with the assets. There is a Titan BPO original at the very least( I think). There is at least enough wealth to give every loyal MC member at least 1 billion isk each if they disband.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 13:08:00 - [19] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram And the strawberry award this year goes to ^^. If you try real hard you might become a soap actor. MC will not get its surrender because that is a sign of weakness for Bob. And you'll only get pardoned if you're defecting. ???
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.01 20:55:00 - [20] Originally by: Aeon Yakati The reason there were very few GBC present for the 2nd pos saving was simply a result of MC not telling us what was inside, nah, MC are secretive like that. Most Mc members found out about the tortuga formation and the attack on PB at the same time as BoB did. In fact there are claims here BOB was informed in advance. I can confirm that the MC grunt was NOT informed beforehand. I am not a Bob alt, but I could be a very **ed of MC alt.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.02 00:19:00 - [21] Edited by: Murtala on 02/05/2008 00:21:44 Ok so what is MC's next move? 1.Surrender and beg for mercy - unlikely to be accepted by Bob due to MC lack of humility on COAD. 2.Failure cascade - Probably favoured by some MC leaders so they can slip assets into there own hangers 3.Counter attack û Possible but where? TPAR, L5D, C3N. For how long. Is that your version of mercenaries? Either way, me got popcorn and coke and occasionally drop them to smack you, Ghaelsto, on CAOD because your bitterness pleases me. I like being pleased. EDIT just spotted KIA post above, are they withdrawing from Tortuga and Period Basis.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.03 12:40:00 - [22] Oh SHC 12:13:07 Notify The station MC Tartarus Mineral Reserve has been captured by Evolution corporation! 12:28:57 Notify The station NC's Sharky Shopping Palace has been captured by Reikoku corporation i think that is MC home stations systems
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.04 09:02:00 - [23] Originally by: Tordox can anyone tell me what sov 4 is compared to sov 3? and who is krall and his titan i keep hearing that name... click SOVEREIGNTY for official info on it. I have read it and still not understood it either, so good luck click this thread, the Saga of Krall Amarr it is locked and the chatlogs removed but read it and you may get the jist of things.
Murtala Mushin Market	Posted - 2008.05.04 13:01:00 - [24] Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram And in the end Bob takes back what they consider its theirs. qft

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