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myFORUMalt alts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:45:00 -
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Im gunna beat the old drone drum again
I just want some drone love.
I propose that drone boats (vexor, ishtar, domi, myrm, ishkur) be stripped of turret slots, have their power grid and cpu modified and just be given drone bonuses that properly reflect drones are their primary weapon
Also, Drone damage mods, Drone Damage implants, Drone Damage rigs (i know we already have sentry) to top. Dominix should be able to put out upwards of 8-9 hundred dps when totally gank fit like most other battleships.
Just give me some drone love
Yes, I complain about things I don't like. |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
832
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:47:00 -
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What exactly is wrong with the drone boats right now? They seem to be perfectly fine right now. |
CaleAdaire
Research Industry Mining and Support
Gatekeepers Universe
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:47:00 -
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I refer you to my signature.
Please stop asking for new stuff "Cuz it's neat".-á |
myFORUMalt alts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:52:00 -
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mxzf wrote:What exactly is wrong with the drone boats right now? They seem to be perfectly fine right now.
Drones just seem so secondary.
and to the guy below you who says, "stop asking for new stuff blah blah blah big bag of ***** in my mouth." New stuff drives the game and keeps people interested. the moment eve stops changing is the moment eve will start to die
Yes, I complain about things I don't like. |
CaleAdaire
Research Industry Mining and Support
Gatekeepers Universe
32
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:59:00 -
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To quote the devs, "New stuff for the sake of new stuff is rarely ever a good thing."
Please stop asking for new stuff "Cuz it's neat".-á |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
832
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:59:00 -
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myFORUMalt alts wrote:Drones just seem so secondary.
o.O So your reason is that you don't perceive drones as being as important to the ships as you feel they 'should' be, so you want to nerf them so they can't fit anything but drones? That pretty stupid. The drone boats already work pretty well, there's really no reason to screw around with them, they're just fine.
I do agree that drone damage mods and such might be good to have (though they'd have to be very carefully balanced, lest they be OP), but there's no reason at all to change the current drone boats. |
myFORUMalt alts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.02 01:02:00 -
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If we were given drone damage mods and still allowed the domi and other drone ships to field turret guns. They would then be over powered dps wise.
To the others that hate new things in eve for the sake of new things. Fortunately, drones arnt new. they can be re-examined like many things in crucible and the upcoming patches and releases.
Yes, I complain about things I don't like. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
355
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Posted - 2012.03.02 01:05:00 -
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There's a severe lack of good drone rigs and the inability of myrmidons to use a full flight of heavies sucks.
Other than that drone boats are fine. |
Kolya Medz
Kolya Inc.
40
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Posted - 2012.03.02 01:53:00 -
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myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Also, Drone damage mods, Drone Damage implants, Drone Damage rigs (i know we already have sentry) to top. Dominix should be able to put out upwards of 8-9 hundred dps when totally gank fit like most other battleships.
Just give me some drone love
I don't know how you fit your gank domi, but mine does a lot more dps than that. |
Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
134
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Posted - 2012.03.02 01:55:00 -
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Yeah drone rigs, damage mods, and implants. Don't see any need for anything beyond that. |
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Rawls Canardly
Phoenix Confederation
20
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Posted - 2012.03.02 02:12:00 -
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myFORUMalt alts wrote:Im gunna beat the old drone drum again
I just want some drone love.
I propose that drone boats (vexor, ishtar, domi, myrm, ishkur) be stripped of turret slots, have their power grid and cpu modified and just be given drone bonuses that properly reflect drones are their primary weapon
Also, Drone damage mods, Drone Damage implants, Drone Damage rigs (i know we already have sentry) to top. Dominix should be able to put out upwards of 8-9 hundred dps when totally gank fit like most other battleships.
Just give me some drone love
Domis do WAY more than that gank fit.
[Dominix, PURE GANK]
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Photon Scattering Field II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Large Core Defence Field Extender I
Ogre II x5
98.6k/114k ehp
1442/1587(!!!) DPS (1297 dps with null o/h)
Fits at all 5 with no implants, likely would fit sooner than that. |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
223
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:01:00 -
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Try telling my drones or the people who've seen me use them that they're 'so secondary'.
WoW holds your hand until end game, and gives you a cookie whether you win or lose. EVE not only takes your cookie, but laughs at you for bringing one in the first place... |
myFORUMalt alts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.02 03:09:00 -
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Serge Bastana wrote:Try telling my drones or the people who've seen me use them that they're 'so secondary'.
Yes, your 500 dps from drones is primary.
Yes, I complain about things I don't like. |
Daeva Teresa
Viziam
Amarr Empire
37
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:24:00 -
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" ... be stripped of turret slots ..." - thats the most stupid / bad / lame idea EVER! Many solo PVE players are using drone boats for semi AFK LVL4 missions. I do it myself when my friends cant play. With this you wouldnt have anything to agro new waves. If you want droneboat without turrets, get the ******* carrier.
Other than that I too would love to see more love for drones. Rigs, implants, modules, meta lvl drones, salvage, tractor, ... |
Spugg Galdon
Mak Mining Corp
109
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:43:00 -
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I think that some of the major issues of Drone Upgrade modules is that they are not really that appealing to fit instead of something else as they take up valuable mid slots. They're also very dificult to fit.
EWAR drones are a bit out of wack and other than ECM drones very situational.
Drones damage balance seems a bit off too. Amarr drones need a bit of a buff. |
Carmizan
DOCS RUFF RIDERS
Free Beer.
12
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Posted - 2012.03.02 09:46:00 -
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TBH the best thing they could do to make the Drone Boats use drones as primary is give the said drone boats back their bonuses they had before.
And for those who have forgotten or were not playing eve at the time the bonus was 1 extra drone can be launched per level of ship trained. |
myFORUMalt alts
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.03.02 13:00:00 -
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Daeva Teresa wrote:" ... be stripped of turret slots ..." - thats the most stupid / bad / lame idea EVER! Many solo PVE players are using drone boats for semi AFK LVL4 missions. I do it myself when my friends cant play. With this you wouldnt have anything to agro new waves. If you want droneboat without turets, get the ******* carrier.
Other than that I too would love to see more love for drones. Rigs, implants, modules, meta lvl drones, salvage, tractor, ...
There are other game mechanics that cause aggro other than firing a weapon at it. IE.....TARGET PAINTING. I have a carrier, its great, Carrier cant go everywhere, like past any gates.
Yes, I complain about things I don't like. |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2012.03.02 13:06:00 -
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It is interesting that there is no ship below Capital level that is a true dedicated drone carrier.
A true drone carrier doesn't have bonuses for turret or missile weapon systems, because that is wasted designer time and ship resources.
The Vexor and Dominix both have hybrid bonuses. The Myrmidon doesn't have a weapon bonus, but it has a less capable drone subsystem than the Vexor.
This makes no sense. |
Zanzbar
Count With Teddy Mercenaries
Stay Calm Don't Panic
12
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Posted - 2012.03.02 15:14:00 -
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Carmizan wrote:TBH the best thing they could do to make the Drone Boats use drones as primary is give the said drone boats back their bonuses they had before.
And for those who have forgotten or were not playing eve at the time the bonus was 1 extra drone can be launched per level of ship trained.
This would actualy make them more powerful then before they were nerfed.
Remember that the drone interfaceing skill went from an extra drone per lvl to 20% dmg per lvl.
Old math --- drones 5 + ships 5 + drone interfacing 5 = 15 drones worth of dps
Current math --- drone 5 x 2 for drone interfacing 5 = 10 drones worth of dps
Proposed math--- (drone 5 + ship 5) x 2 for drone interfacing 5 = 20 drones of dps |
L0rdF1end
STA'IN
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
25
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:15:00 -
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Before any changes are suggested, I would suggest waiting on the upcoming release which has been romoured to include new EWAR drones. This already could benefit Gallente and make their drone ships more powerful. |
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Aglais
Right Click Industries
55
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:16:00 -
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Do not. Remove other weapons. From drone ships.
If the Vexor becomes unable to fit guns, the amount of people who fly it will drop to incredibly low numbers; it'd be ENTIRELY DEFENCELESS if you were just starting out and wanted to fly one and only had, say, drones 3 with scout drone operation. Automatically you'd have to end up having Drones 5 and a bunch of other things before even entering this new proposed gunless Vexor; This is DUMB. It will make the appeal of the ship completely crash.
I really, really hope you're not talking about meddling with the Gurista ships too. Because then I have beef with you. If nothing else, Gurista ships need more fitting (Enough to field the next request, and then a bit extra as they're incredibly tight on CPU), and +1 launcher hardpoint each.
If nothing else, maybe make the bonuses to drones more significant than the bonuses to the other weapons while still keeping both? ie. rather than 5% per level, some 7.5% or even 10% in some ability per level? |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
32
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Posted - 2012.03.02 16:43:00 -
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If the Vexor gained additional drone bonuses it would have to lose the gun bonus at minimum. Subcap "dedicated drone carriers" with gun bonuses are all kinds of bizzare. |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Malicious Mission Murderers
92
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Posted - 2012.03.02 18:26:00 -
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I am starting to have second thoughts on buying an Arbitrator.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Rawls Canardly
Phoenix Confederation
21
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:14:00 -
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Amaroq Dricaldari wrote:I am starting to have second thoughts on buying an Arbitrator.
Arbitrators are actually fairly awesome. |
Buzzy Warstl
Huron Syndicate
33
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Posted - 2012.03.02 19:20:00 -
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Arbitrators are quite nice. Illogical doesn't mean "not fun to play". |
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