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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:08:00 -
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Il start with this. Are all quest locations instanced? I teamed up with a player to kill the guy before Dagan from the sisters of eve arc. I warped to the quest location and so did he but we were in different places and i had to warp to him to help. Second: Next we went to my location to kill my version of the mob for the quest. I started fighting him, i took down his shield but couldnt budge his armor even with the help of the other player he still regenerated faster than we killed him. I warped out to repair and while i was away (like 1 min max) he killed him where as i was there with him fighting for at least 5+ min and both of us couldn't hurt him. Why is that? Dagan also regenerates like 1/3 of his armor every 2,3 seconds or so is that normal? When we tried to two man him we couldnt kill him. We had to bring in a third player who had a much more advanced ship but he just looted the canister and warped out leaving the two of us with an incomplete quest.
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.03.02 22:53:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Il start with this. Are all quest locations instanced? I teamed up with a player to kill the guy before Dagan from the sisters of eve arc. I warped to the quest location and so did he but we were in different places and i had to warp to him to help.
Yes, all mission (note: Eve players hate it when people call them "quests") locations are instanced for the specific person running said mission. That said, they are not instanced as in other MMOs, where other players can't access it without your express permission. If I wanted to, I could, for example, scan down your mission, warp to it while you were still in it, and start stealing the loot from all the wrecks. There is actually a profession based around this called "ninja salvaging".
Danny Roy wrote: Second: Next we went to my location to kill my version of the mob for the quest. I started fighting him, i took down his shield but couldnt budge his armor even with the help of the other player he still regenerated faster than we killed him. I warped out to repair and while i was away (like 1 min max) he killed him where as i was there with him fighting for at least 5+ min and both of us couldn't hurt him. Why is that?
Just like your ship has a capacitor amount, so do NPC ships. Armor doesn't regenerate by itself; Dagan was using an armor repairer of some sort. When his ship ran out of capacitor to run that repairer, he stopped repairing, simple as that.
Danny Roy wrote: Dagan also regenerates like 1/3 of his armor every 2,3 seconds or so is that normal? When we tried to two man him we couldnt kill him. We had to bring in a third player who had a much more advanced ship but he just looted the canister and warped out leaving the two of us with an incomplete quest.
Yes, killing Dagan is quite a challenge. Every newbie who has tried to kill him is forever scarred (even those who managed to), and many come back later in their careers to re-do the Sisters of Eve epic arc just to be able to blast Dagan out of the sky using a battleship or something.
That third player was an *******. Usually vets offer help killing Dagan, as it is something very difficult to do for a newbie, but they never gyp the newbies out of the loot for killing him (which is necessary for completing the mission). Doing stuff like that just hurts the newbie involved, lessens new player retention, and doesn't gain the thief anything. That is just an ******* move to do, and on behalf of the vet players of Eve I apologize for his behavior.
That said, you can still complete the mission. You can buy a unit of "Dagan" off the market, or, if it's not there, from contracts. You might also be able to cancel and restart the mission, too. Or, if none of these work (or Dagan is too expensive) just petition a GM for a mission reset or for the item.
Cheers, and welcome to Eve! It's rough, but really fun.
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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.02 23:56:00 -
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Its ok i dont really give sh*t as a veteran mmo player im used to griefing. Dagan's got a hell of a capacitor though... I can sustain all of my modules for 30 sec he can do it for 5+minutes? Hell. Are NPC's limited on ammunition too? Il try buying him if not by restarting the mission will i restart the whole mission chain? Or whatever you call it in eve. |
gfldex
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Posted - 2012.03.03 01:15:00 -
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NPCs do have unlimited ammo, in fact they don't even use any ammo. They further do have capacitor but don't use it. You can suck them dry and they wont care. You can reduce the probability for the local armor repair effect (a tiny little wee bit) with sticking a neut on the target. If neuts on NPCs stack is not known to men. If you want to explode Dagan solo you need at least 140dps (on target, not on paper).
And EVE does got quite a few ways to grief players. Just nicking a fairly useful item is not one of them.
You can ask a GM to reset the mission, they tend to be kind to noobs. DO NOT MENTION THAT THE ITEM WENT TO ANOTHER PLAYER. GM will not help you in PvP matters. Just lie that the item didn't drop or you shot the can.
The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.03.03 07:22:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Just lie to GMs. That's not the kind of thing we want to be encouraging, bro. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 08:19:00 -
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Don't cancel Epic Arc mission. I believe that stops whole Epic Arc and you need to wait 3 months before you can do that again. (Unless you manage to petition for reset.)
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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:09:00 -
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gfldex wrote:NPCs do have unlimited ammo, in fact they don't even use any ammo. They further do have capacitor but don't use it. You can suck them dry and they wont care. You can reduce the probability for the local armor repair effect (a tiny little wee bit) with sticking a neut on the target. If neuts on NPCs stack is not known to men. If you want to explode Dagan solo you need at least 140dps (on target, not on paper). And EVE does got quite a few ways to grief players. Just nicking a fairly useful item is not one of them. You can ask a GM to reset the mission, they tend to be kind to noobs. DO NOT MENTION THAT THE ITEM WENT TO ANOTHER PLAYER. GM will not help you in PvP matters. Just lie that the item didn't drop or you shot the can.
Wait what? So if a 2 year experienced player with all the latest stuff comes in and steals my item and i a 2 week noob ask for a mission reset and say that he stole the item from me they won't reset it because its a pvp matter? Thats completely unfair and illogical. |
Anshio Tamark
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:11:00 -
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Alternately, wait for a while and get your skills up so you deal more damage against him. If you delay it enough to be able to fly T2-frigates, you'll stand a bigger chance, though that's a really boring way to beat Dagan.
I remember when I killed him the second time. Maybe nuking him with a Stealth Bomber might've been a slight overkill...
Generally, Dagan is only there to prove that there are times when flying alone for the sake of mission rewards is a huge disadvantage. |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:21:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Wait what? So if a 2 year experienced player with all the latest stuff comes in and steals my item and i a 2 week noob ask for a mission reset and say that he stole the item from me they won't reset it because its a pvp matter? Thats completely unfair and illogical. At least in this case it was your own mistake for inviting someone who can't be trusted into your mission.
Also, what ships were you using when you couldn't kill dagan with 2 ships?
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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:40:00 -
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malaire wrote:Danny Roy wrote:Wait what? So if a 2 year experienced player with all the latest stuff comes in and steals my item and i a 2 week noob ask for a mission reset and say that he stole the item from me they won't reset it because its a pvp matter? Thats completely unfair and illogical. At least in this case it was your own mistake for inviting someone who can't be trusted into your mission. Also, what ships were you using when you couldn't kill dagan with 2 ships?
Well how the heck was i supposed to know that he can even interact with the item? In most other mmos players that are not on the quest/mission can not interact with said quest/mission item. He was from the starting npc corp... If i cant even trust those guys for a little help who can i trust? Besides i just figured that the whole event will reset in some time. Actually im not entirely sure what happened. Il explain it and maybe you can confirm my theory that the stole the item. He was very polite and all explaining some stuff and offering help. He joined our fleet and came to help at some point i assume he left the fleet because his ship appeared as a white square. After the combat ended he turn into a red square with a skull and warped away. Actually at one point i thought that that was a 3rd different player because i was kiting Dagan while waiting for him and when he warped in he was 100km away from me so i clicked approach on his ship. The ship that killed Dagan came from a different direction than the one i was flying to. (Im positive i was flying towards the right player because i saw him sending out a bunch of drones. I only realized when that he wasnt in the fleet when i saw another ship 1000m away from Dagan. I asked who the 3rd guy is and noticed that that guy isnt even in the fleet anymore. I know this doesen't make any sense. It doesent make any to me either.
I was using a Catalyst fitted with 5 railguns and i have no idea what the other guy was using... Something that shoots with rockets...
EDIT: I just realized that that must have been 3rd person because the guy helping us was from the npc corp, the one that i an still in. |
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J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:54:00 -
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Anshio Tamark wrote:Alternately, wait for a while and get your skills up so you deal more damage against him. If you delay it enough to be able to fly T2-frigates, you'll stand a bigger chance, though that's a really boring way to beat Dagan.
I remember when I killed him the second time. Maybe nuking him with a Stealth Bomber might've been a slight overkill...
Generally, Dagan is only there to prove that there are times when flying alone for the sake of mission rewards is a huge disadvantage.
Hmz, Stealth bomber seems overkill indeed, but then again I got my payback by flying my alt character to Dagan the 2nd time in a Abaddon. Sat there for an hour easily tanking him and then got fed up with him. Webs on, painter on, drones out and cycle my guns once and it was over. So much gratification of seeing that opposed to the hours I've spent killing him the first time with 2 T1-fitted frigates.
Also keep in mind Dagan comes in multiple form, the one you encounter will depend on what route you take during the Epic Arc (which race you decide you go with). Dagan will counter that race so he can be either shield tanking or armor tanking. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 10:59:00 -
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I chose the gallente officer. |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:06:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:malaire wrote:Danny Roy wrote:Wait what? So if a 2 year experienced player with all the latest stuff comes in and steals my item and i a 2 week noob ask for a mission reset and say that he stole the item from me they won't reset it because its a pvp matter? Thats completely unfair and illogical. At least in this case it was your own mistake for inviting someone who can't be trusted into your mission. Also, what ships were you using when you couldn't kill dagan with 2 ships? Well how the heck was i supposed to know that he can even interact with the item? In most other mmos players that are not on the quest/mission can not interact with said quest/mission item. He was from the starting npc corp... If i cant even trust those guys for a little help who can i trust? Besides i just figured that the whole event will reset in some time. Actually im not entirely sure what happened. Il explain it and maybe you can confirm my theory that the stole the item. He was very polite and all explaining some stuff and offering help. He joined our fleet and came to help at some point i assume he left the fleet because his ship appeared as a white square. After the combat ended he turn into a red square with a skull and warped away. Actually at one point i thought that that was a 3rd different player because i was kiting Dagan while waiting for him and when he warped in he was 100km away from me so i clicked approach on his ship. The ship that killed Dagan came from a different direction than the one i was flying to. (Im positive i was flying towards the right player because i saw him sending out a bunch of drones. I only realized when that he wasnt in the fleet when i saw another ship 1000m away from Dagan. I asked who the 3rd guy is and noticed that that guy isnt even in the fleet anymore. I know this doesen't make any sense. It doesent make any to me either. I was using a Catalyst fitted with 5 railguns and i have no idea what the other guy was using... Something that shoots with rockets... EDIT: I just realized that that must have been 3rd person because the guy helping us was from the npc corp, the one that i an still in and should appear as a green square in game not white.
Okay, first of all.
Anybody can interact with anything in EVE, nothing is exclusive for you besides the stuff in station. In space nothing is privately owned by you for 100%. People can always steal stuff from you. You encountered someone stealing from you. I suggest to forget every single thing you learned and saw in any other MMO as all those things don't count in EVE Online. EVE is a total sandbox, anything goes and everything is open to everyone. There is a really limited list of stuff that is prohibited and most grievers know that and don't do that, but it leaves plenty of room for them to grief other players.
Also you could try to petition a mission reset, keep in mind like said before CCP won't reset the mission cause someone else took the item. You took the risk of taking people in your fleet you didn't know and didn't know their intentions. This is actually a matter that follows the game mechanics of EVE and CCP has no reason then to reset the mission (if they do and player base finds out, then there will be a flood of petitions every day).
That red box with skull means you have killright on the guy because he stole from you. What likely happened is that 2 players took advantage of you being new and needing help, 1 joins your fleet, warps to your location and then leaves fleet to get into fleet with the 2nd guy, he then warps too the first guy so he can steal the item.
Also keep in mind, specially in a NPC corporation, that because people are in your corporation they don't have to be reliable. Even corp members can (and sometimes) will steal stuff from eachother. At one time in history there was a player who stole around 72bil in ISK and assets from his corp before quiting the corp, so being a corp member doesn't automatically means he is trustworthy.
Trust in EVE is something that should be earned and not given to people easily. EVE has a lot of players only playing to grief others, but there are actually more players that are 'good' guys. So my advice, whenever interacting with other players, always prepare for the worst possible solution. If you do that and things go bad you are prepared for it, if it turns out that he is a good guy then nothing matters. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:14:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:He was from the starting npc corp... If i cant even trust those guys for a little help who can i trust? Every new character starts in one of those corporations, whether it is new player, or 2nd/3rd/.. character of old player. And if that old player like to kill others, you can't really trust his newest char anymore than older ones.
Danny Roy wrote:Besides i just figured that the whole event will reset in some time. Unfortunately, no.
Unfinished missions will reset at downtime as long as whatever is needed to finish the mission hasn't been done. Since in your mission dagan was killed and needed item was taken, mission will not reset at downtime.
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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:47:00 -
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Well that just seems stupid. Is there any particular reason or is it just a design flaw? |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.03.03 11:59:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Well that just seems stupid. Is there any particular reason or is it just a design flaw?
It's no design flaw as usually (99.9% of the time) the item is taken by the guy who runs the mission. So it normally works as intended.
You are one of the very few that encountered EVE in his worst possible form very early in the game. (Yes, I hate the idea that older players grief new players who don't have a clue on how EVE works).
But what happened to you is something that most will call the 2nd rule of EVE, and that is don't trust anybody you don't know in real life, and even then don't trust them for the full 100%.
Like said, grieving is a big part of EVE (and a very lucrative one too), you will encounter grievers once in a while in EVE. It's part of the community and most learn to live with them.
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The only way the SoE epic arc resets is cancelling the epic arc and restart the whole thing in 3 months. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
malaire
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Posted - 2012.03.03 12:04:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:Like said, grieving is a big part of EVE (and a very lucrative one too), you will encounter grievers once in a while in EVE. It's part of the community and most learn to live with them. I just checked contracts for Dagan. There is one with 2x Dagan for 20 million ISK, and another with 1 Dagan for 100 million ISK.
So there is valid gameplay reason to steal Dagan from new players - that can give thief some nice ISK.
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Xerces Ynx
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
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Posted - 2012.03.03 13:06:00 -
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About Dagan: his ship can be destroyed, but it requires patience, time, a bit of tactics and a lot of ammo. Also, it's good to hop into destroyer or cruiser for that mission, but remember - the bigger the ship, the more hits you will take (that's why unskilled cruiser is not a very good ship for rookies in this mission). You will finish this mission much quicker when you take someone with you to help, *BUT* I strongly discourage you from inviting people you don't know. Not only for this mission, but for every activity in EVE, unless you are prepared for unexpected events or killing some difficult rat is more important than whatever he will drop (that is not the case of Dagan). Also, try changing your ship fitting. Maybe something else will work much better. And one more thing... Drone(s).
About game mechanics: in other MMOs you have your own, private mission instances. This makes them more like singleplayer (if you are doing missions solo) or cooperation (if with other players) games. Full interaction and competition with other people is reduced to closed arenas and small brawls from time to time. EVE is different. it's all multiplayer without couchy private zones where you don't have to watch your back every time. Some people don't like it, because they prefer to feel safe, don't like to interact at this level with other players and for many other reasons. You either accept this more-real-life-like mechanics in EVE and adapt to it or you suffer a lot and eventually drop the game. This mechanic is not flawed. It's different. Playing EVE like any other MMO is a recipe for failure.
About trust: just like in real life, you don't know who to trust and even if you do, you can't be sure that person someday will not turn into your enemy. So, one of the general rules of EVE is "do not trust anyone". It doesn't mean you should always fly solo and avoid any contact. Just be cautious and prepared, that's all. When someone betrays you, it's not game's fault. Exploiting the trust of new players is one of the griefing methods and you just fell for that. It is not a big deal. It happends all the time. You learned something and probably won't do that again in the future. Every day there's something new to learn in EVE.
Now, stop QQing, refit, check your training queue and do something about this Epic Arc. Error reading signature file: /home/xerces/.signature: No such file or directory |
Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 16:52:00 -
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Ok. Thanks for all the answers guys you've helped a bunch. On a side note is it normal to find so many unstable wormholes? At the moment ive scanned down 6 signature 5 of which have been unstable wormholes. Not that im not temped to explore them its just that they are a little out of my league... |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.03.03 17:20:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Ok. Thanks for all the answers guys you've helped a bunch. On a side note is it normal to find so many unstable wormholes? At the moment ive scanned down 6 signature 5 of which have been unstable wormholes. Not that im not temped to explore them its just that they are a little out of my league...
Wormholes are randomly generated, so what you have there is an outlier, but they are still more common than you'd expect. I think there's 1-2 open in most systems from what I've seen in exploration. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
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Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:22:00 -
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Basically my only problem with what happened was that i didn't really know that he can even do that because the mechanics of mission zones, mission items were not explained. (IE that mission events dont restart, when you complete a mission theres just one item, not one item per player in your fleet) but thats alright i dont really care about that. My question now is about fitting. I purchased a thorax cruiser and i dont really know how to fit him for PvE. Most fits on the net are PvP and the ISK guide's fitting section is about about what goes were in general. It doesen't really give you a go to fit when you're not sure what to do etc.
What exactly am i looking for in this build? Blasters offer more damage but what happens when you rush into close range with your blasters and realize that you cant kill/tank your enemies fast/long enough. You''re dead. I also herd that you cant use microwarpdrives in deadspace. Railguns give you the option to kite but might not offer enough damage. What would you recommend? |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:32:00 -
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railguns *should* be able to give enough DPS to kill L2 mission rats. However, always have a full flight of drones too.
Gallente primary weapon systems aren't "just" Railguns and Blasters ... but rather Railguns and drones, or Blasters and drones. |
Danny Roy
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.05 18:50:00 -
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Yeah i didn't mention the drones because its obvious that im going to use them. So 5 railguns, shield tank or armor tank?(not sure which is better for this ship), a damage control, drones, maybe a target painter? Have i missed anything crucial? |
J'Poll
Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Side Effect.
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Posted - 2012.03.05 19:10:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Yeah i didn't mention the drones because its obvious that im going to use them. So 5 railguns, shield tank or armor tank?(not sure which is better for this ship), a damage control, drones, maybe a target painter? Have i missed anything crucial?
Most general idea on tanking:
Caldari = shield Amarr = Armor Gallente = Armor Minmatar = What is tank, I just outrun the bullets fired at me (aka speed-tank) / Some ships can be armor and/or shield tanked.
Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction |
Velicitia
Open Designs
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Posted - 2012.03.05 20:15:00 -
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Danny Roy wrote:Yeah i didn't mention the drones because its obvious that im going to use them. So 5 railguns, shield tank or armor tank?(not sure which is better for this ship), a damage control, drones, maybe a target painter? Have i missed anything crucial?
This served me pretty well for a long time
Hi slots: Blasters for the DPS or rails for range. Meta 4 if you can afford it (3 if you have to skimp)
Mids Afterburner (or MWD, but since MWD doesn't work in all missions) Web Empty
Lows: DCU II MAR II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 2x Hardeners fit to the rats you're encountering (e.g. Thermic if you're fighting serpentis).
Obviously if you can't fit T2, then the best named that you can afford/fit. |
Baneken
Hyvat Pahat ja Eric The Polaris Syndicate
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This fit is old, dunno how old, maybe 3-4 years but it should give you a hint. Also my EFT version is old so module names aren't the same as they used to be anymore.
[Thorax, Thorax PvE] Medium Armor Repairer II Armor EM Hardener II Armor Thermic Hardener II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II
Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II
200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
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Jouron
Hadon Shipping
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:56:00 -
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If you plan on using drones and doing pve I would encourage you to fly the vexor.
I know the vexor on the outside may not look as menacing as the thorax, but looks can be deceiving.
The vexor Applies more of its dps to smaller rats then the thorax can. Micro warpdrives dont always work in missions, so part of the time the thorax misses the mark on its microwarpdrive bonus. Not to mention not every missin needs you to use a micro warp drive. The thorax needs a web to really effectively apply its dps to small targets. The vexor doesnt.
If your running level 2's the vexor will make extremely short work of them. Soak up agro, kite, unleash drones. Rinse repeat. Youll just be flying around with your vexor as your drones smalls or mediums, rip the rats apart.
Then your well on your way to start commanding other epic drone boats, the ishkur, Myrmidon, and the Domi. If that isn't enough passively you've started to skill towards carrier.
As gallente I never complained about the earlier short comings of blasters, mainly because I hardly ever used them.
Vexor is more flexible in its fitting then the thorax. Theres only so many ways to fit a thorax, the vexor has tons of PVP and PVE fittings.
If you know how to kite properly you can even run lvl 3's in a vexor. |
Xerces Ynx
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
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Posted - 2012.03.07 01:33:00 -
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Jouron wrote:If you plan on using drones and doing pve I would encourage you to fly the vexor. ...and after a while, Vexor Navy Issue will rock your world. Great hull.
Still looking for Guardian Vexor... Error reading signature file: /home/xerces/.signature: No such file or directory |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
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Posted - 2012.03.07 16:43:00 -
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Xerces Ynx wrote:Still looking for Guardian Vexor... I think there are only one or two in existence, and they are in the hands of ship collectors. Unless you have a few tens of billions of ISK to blow on it, don't count on finding one :) Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members! |
Xerces Ynx
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Xerces Ynx wrote:Still looking for Guardian Vexor... I think there are only one or two in existence, and they are in the hands of ship collectors. Unless you have a few tens of billions of ISK to blow on it, don't count on finding one :) And now I'm a sad panda... Error reading signature file: /home/xerces/.signature: No such file or directory |
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