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Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:11:00 -
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A corp mate and I were having an argument. He is an Intercepter pilot and believes they are able to pawn all other frigates. Especially if they aren't nanoed.I am out to prove him wrong. I am currently finishing Amarr frig 5 so I can cap him in my Cruor. Problem is I cannot find a good set up for this ship anywhere. Please help me put his 12Kps arse down. I have the faction webber, and will get officer if necessary to prove my point, already but the rest of my set up sucks rocks and I need help from the genius community that is Eve. And please spare me the cost benefit analysis I amout to win period. Any ideas EFT warriors???
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Thorradin
State War Academy
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:12:00 -
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Rocket Kestrel with a web.
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Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:24:00 -
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Come on man...das not even funny unless you like being a flying target... or did you not read the INTERCEPTER part of what I am trying to kill.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:30:00 -
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Normal frigs, or are T2 fair game?
What kind of interceptor is he flying?
For trashing his 'ceptor your options are:
Dual web kestrel (higher dps, buffer tank it, and hope he strays into web range)
Hyena - web range bonus, makes 'ceptors die.
Kitsune - good skills, and it will _guarantee_ successful jamming against an inty. Good luck killing you then. Griffins come pretty close here too, with a signal distortion amplifier, and 2x particle dispersion augmentors, and a quick spot of overheating, they're on 13 sensor str on named racials. (Without overheat they're on 10 or so, which is enough for some inties)
Sentinel - no cap, no mwd.
Hawk - just can't break your tank.
Ishkur - warrior IIs, and speed mods.
An interceptor isn't an i-win button by any means. However what it can do is reliably execute plan RLF, against anything it can't win against.
In that sense, your corpmate is correct. |

James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Xionex Come on man...das not even funny unless you like being a flying target... or did you not read the INTERCEPTER part of what I am trying to kill.
Kestrel: 4x rocket launcher II 2x webs, point. 400mm plate, MAPC.
Works better than you think, although it does rely on the 'lol frigate' brand of interceptor pilot. |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:35:00 -
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Any frig is T1 or t2 of faction...Which is why my current thinking says that a Cruor can kill him with a 150% web bonus. But any and all ideas are fair game as long as it's a frigate...And since I am willing to risk my 75 million ISK faction Cruor I don't care what it costs to do the job , but economy as always is preferred. |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:36:00 -
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Crow/Malediction is the target... |

ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:37:00 -
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If the ceptor pilot is smart and stays out of web range, a plated dual beam laser punisher should do the trick with no need for faction stuff (since you're training amarr and won't nano your frig). |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:39:00 -
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Pilgrim... Oh wait nvm, you said frigate.
Sentinel. Nice range on neuts ftw. |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:41:00 -
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any help on Crour set ups would also be appreciated as it get a webber range bonus and a /Nos/Neut strength Bonus...any other ships or ideas??? |
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Gantrithor105
Caldari Acerbus Vindictum
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:50:00 -
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I've gotta guess neuts are the only way to do this... I'd say a minnie buffer tank would be good for this as cap isn't an issue. |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Xionex any help on Crour set ups would also be appreciated as it get a webber range bonus and a /Nos/Neut strength Bonus...any other ships or ideas???
For a cruor? Lemme see what i can dredge up. Gah lacks a midslot.
[Cruor, New Setup 1] Amarr Navy Small Armor Repairer Amarr Navy Adaptive Nano Plating Amarr Navy Adaptive Nano Plating Amarr Navy Capacitor Power Relay
Domination Stasis Webifier J5 Prototype Warp Inhibitor I
Amarr Navy Small Energy Neutralizer Amarr Navy Small Energy Neutralizer Gatling Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Standard S Gatling Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Standard S Rocket Launcher II, Gremlin Rocket
Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I Egress Port Maximizer I
Switch out the egress port maximizers for semiconductor rigs if your loaded. Domination web gets 21km with minmatard frigate 4, and those neuts are pretty nice on range/neuting... |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:56:00 -
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Maybe..my problem is after I slow him down I have to get into HIS web range to kill him...and theCruor is not exactly a flying tank...even for the meager DPS an Inty can deal out. I am still going to have to eat a bunch of standard missiles before I can turn out his lights.  |

Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.06 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xionex Maybe..my problem is after I slow him down I have to get into HIS web range to kill him...and theCruor is not exactly a flying tank...even for the meager DPS an Inty can deal out. I am still going to have to eat a bunch of standard missiles before I can turn out his lights. 
Hyena or Cruor with a faction web or two will have pretty good range, just remember that your only as good as your tank... A malediction just might tank better than you. |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:01:00 -
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I will have Min frig 5 and Amarr frig 5 when we fight. As well as t2 or better weapons and modules...But this guy is good and he tops out at around 11 thousand ish. I need all the help I can get... |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:04:00 -
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Web range wise I have him... I will get Groton webber if I have to...but as I said earlier when I am closing many missiles are going to be coming my way...Any other ideas??? Heyna??? haven't thought of that one... |

Xionex
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:15:00 -
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any other ship or fit IDEAS?  
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DARTHxFREE
Double Indemnity
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:23:00 -
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I use a Catalyst with 75mm's dual web and dcu/eanm/400mm /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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Shiken Kan
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:28:00 -
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Sentinel
2x TS small neut 1x TS small nos
2x cap recharger 2 1x gistii a-type mwd 1x 20km point
1x domination od 1x nano 2 1x cpr 2
2x polycarbs
4x hobgoblin 2
suck him dry then just let 1 neut run and circle him while your drones chew him to pieces :p
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Wang Zenormous
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Xionex A corp mate and I were having an argument. He is an Intercepter pilot and believes they are able to pawn all other frigates. Especially if they aren't nanoed.I am out to prove him wrong. I am currently finishing Amarr frig 5 so I can cap him in my Cruor. Problem is I cannot find a good set up for this ship anywhere. Please help me put his 12Kps arse down. I have the faction webber, and will get officer if necessary to prove my point, already but the rest of my set up sucks rocks and I need help from the genius community that is Eve. And please spare me the cost benefit analysis I amout to win period. Any ideas EFT warriors???
Nano harpy with 125mm IIs should do the job. He wont be able to break your tank, and if hes in range to hit you, you can probably hit him.
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Commander Thrawn
the united
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:39:00 -
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if he's going 11kms he will have no tank. you will *****him. Malediction gets bonus to rockets, so if he's using standar missiles to stay out of range his dps will be ****. If he is in a crow it might hurt a bit more, but once again if you have a basic tank and he has none and only speed mods, once he's dead in the water due to webs and no cap he's toast.
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Zantei
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:45:00 -
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The correct answer is a Hawk with tech II launchers and precision missiles. Good night.
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xenodia
Gallente Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Xionex I will have Min frig 5 and Amarr frig 5 when we fight. As well as t2 or better weapons and modules...But this guy is good and he tops out at around 11 thousand ish. I need all the help I can get...
He wont be able to maintain that speed and stay in engagement range though. What you really have to worry about his hitting him when hes going 4-6k per second, which is what he will be doing if hes orbiting close enough to keep a point on you and shoot you.
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xenodia
Gallente Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zantei The correct answer is a Hawk with tech II launchers and precision missiles. Good night.
Depends if hes dumb enough to loiter around in missile range.
Actually a passive tanked stealth bomber with precisions could do the job, but youd have like zero ability to keep a point on him. It would be great for the "wtf factor" though. This signature space for rent |

Hardtail
Red Dawn Empire Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.06 23:48:00 -
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The real question here is.
Does he have t2 launchers?
if he doesent, he's gonna have to engage in webrange, so just double web, fit a mwd, tons of buffer and dps and you're set.
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Hannobaal
Gallente Shadow Forces Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:00:00 -
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Rail Enyo, rail Harpy, artillery Thrasher, and beam Retribution. Those 4 are interceptor killers. Pretty much any interceptor that tries to mess with them will have to bail out or die.
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: Monticore D''Muertos on 07/05/2008 00:10:09 all the ships listed good at killing crows will be avoided by a crow.
the correct answer is rifter
3x 200 1 rocket mwd/web/t2 med shield extender od/nano/mapc
115 dps 4km/s 1800 shields he will agress you warp off , pretend like your running, enageg him at the gate(he may wait a sec to see if ya jump) web na dhe should die before he notices your not pointed and or that he isnt killing you fast enough. or running away.
ina pre arranged duel that tactic loses its effect, unless with heat ya get lucky hehe. |

Deva Blackfire
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:11:00 -
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Crows tend to be annoying. Get punished + dual beams + web/scram (unless you dont want to kill him then web + tracking comp) + passive tank in lows. Or even active. Think with 1x rep + kin hardener + eanm if you put on cap recharge (to keep rep running) you can permatank crow. Their DPS is laughable. |

Ruciza
Minmatar The Feminists
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Posted - 2008.05.07 00:23:00 -
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If you want a ship that can kill everything, even 30kps comedy ceptors, you need a destroyer. |

Joe Starbreaker
Smoking Hillbillys Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.05.07 01:25:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Starbreaker on 07/05/2008 01:25:40 Consider using sensor dampers to reduce his locking range, so that he'll have to come in real close. Close enough for you to neutralize his capacitor (killing his MWD) and web him. Cruor would probably be great for this. Of course then you have to slug it out with him... presumably he still has guns. Try to talk him into using the Crusader because your energy neut will quickly rub out his laser DPS. |
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