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Iroxxx
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Posted - 2003.06.13 18:45:00 -
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The real problem is that there are just too many players and not enough slots to go around. Most slots are probably not even in use since a player only has to make something occasionally.
The solution is for CCP to modify the Factory manager role and let corporations rent a couple slots which available for use by member.
It should be spilt into Factory Manager and Factory User.
Factory Manager should be able to:
Have unlimited access to the Factory Hangar. Corp Factories should use blueprints in both the Factory Hangar and the player's individual hangar. Minerals would need to be placed in the same hangar the blueprint is coming from. The finished product would also be placed in the same hangar as the blueprint source. This would include the right to rent / stop rent on factories.
Factory User should be able to:
To use any corp rented factory, but can't cancel rent. They can make any item if they have the required blueprint and minerals in their own individual hangar. Finished products would be placed in their own individual hangar as well.
Basically instead of having every player rent their own factories.. Allow corporations to rent shared facilities for their members without giving them full access to blueprint / mineral reserves if they aren't a Factory Manager.
The same deal could work with labs.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2003.06.13 19:50:00 -
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there are plenty of factory slots, it's just that a few people have gone around and bought most of them up.
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Katanga Juros
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Posted - 2003.06.15 11:44:00 -
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The problem is the lack of labs. I got lucky and found 1 but since then I have relocated and its not 37 jumps away. Now I would release my slot for someone else to get but I won't because I haven't got a replacement. I just wish that lab slots would be more numerous.
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Hanse Davion
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Posted - 2003.06.15 12:23:00 -
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Quote: The real problem is that there are just too many players and not enough slots to go around. Most slots are probably not even in use since a player only has to make something occasionally.
This is not the real problem, poor design and coding is.
1) You can not remote cancel factory/research slots. You have to manually go to the location to cancel them. This is a MAJOR BUG, for example when I first started my corp we were based in Ainelle (sp?) in the Sinq Laison Region. I fully expected Lab Operation to be implemented by now and not be a pirate drop since that really doesn't make sense to me. Anyway I rented 6 factory slots and 6 research slots. I have Industry and Mass Production, I also have Research and intended to buy Lab Operation as soon as they activated the skill. These 12 slots are the max my character should be able to use. Since then I have relocated my corp to the Forge region some 40 jumps away. Bottom line I'm not going to fly 40 jumps to cancel those slots, I don't want them and I'm not using them. But why should I risk getting podded by PC Pirates just to get back and cancel some slots that I'm not paying rent on anyway?
2) Which brings us to issue number 2, some systems charge you rent regularly, some don't. I have had those above mentioned slots since the 1st week of retail. I have never been charged rent on them since I initially rented them. So what is the point of going there to cancel them? They are free for me and least of my worries.
3) Also prior to forming my corp I rented 4 slots just outside of Gallente newbie space. These are rented to my personal account not the corps. I honestly have no idea what system and station they are in anymore because I haven't used them since the first 3 or 4 days of retail. If you know how I can locate slots I rented to my personal account please tell me? Since I'm not being charged rent for them and I don't know where they are. Screw it there are just 4 more slots off the market that no one can use.
So there you have the real problem. If CCP fixed the code for rental charges they wouldn't need to jack rent up 800%. I don't know about anyone else but I will be damned if I would pay rent on slots 40+ jumps away in a system I have no intention of going back to just to keep them out of another players hands. I believe that most people would feel the same way.
Solutions: 1) Fix the code so that rents are charged every 3 days the way it's supposed to work.
2) Research slots SHOULD get 800% increase because in the long run they are more valuable then factory slots.
3) Make it so that people can remotely cancel rents.
4) Player station should not be a drop/loot item. They should be really expensive and generally accessible to all. This way people would start building stations in the outer regions and settling those areas. Therefore making more slots and solving the number issue.
Just my 2 cents.
Edited by: Hanse Davion on 15/06/2003 12:28:12 2005.01.21 05:09:06combatYour Tachyon Beam Laser I perfectly strikes Blood Priest, wrecking for 533.1 damage. |
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