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BiggestT
Caldari
Space Oddysey
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.01 10:36:00 -
[151]
 Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab
And if they 'buff' the citadel torpedo HP enough to withstand 2-3 SB's, it'll still suck in major engagements as you might pass through the sphere of SB of more than just one or two carriers/MS's...
If we're going to have a weapon-system that is this easily disabled, it should at the very least do _MORE_ damage that other dreadnoughts when you get in hits.
well my mates normal cit. torp hits were hitting for more than another non-phoenix dreads wrecking shots..
However that was probly due to dmg types, the cit torp poppage weakness is just terrible imo |
Lambda Effective
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:00:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Lambda Effective on 01/09/2008 11:16:28
Citadel torps should have greater HP plain and simple. We're talking a capital-grade weapon here. Its HP should be at least 5-10x that of a torp. A single carrier with a high rack of smartbombs can counter an infinite number of Phoenixes indefinitely. Sub-capital grade smartbombs should not be (100%) effective against capital-grade weaponry.
*note*: The devs have only replied in the other 2 threads started on this topic - and in those cases they only replied because the posts were in the "wrong forum". |
Precious Angelica
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Posted - 2008.09.01 11:26:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Kel Nissa
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3 months old thread already now and not even a comment.
Thats the reason for my proposal: ISK donations to get devs looking into specific ideas
Is this what it has come to? People have to offer ISK to get devs to respond?
Devs: Man up already and respond. Quit stalling while trying to come up with some crazy excuse to legitimize the fact that greater than 25% of caps can have their DPS brought to ZERO by a single ship fit with smarties. |
Fearless Kill
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.09.03 03:11:00 -
[154]
o/ hi, im the citadel torp in the op.
but seriously.... this cant hide on the back burner just because you put a new patch in which spawns some new ideas... this is a problem... maybe not a bug... but a severely imbalanced issue.
Albeit it doesnt effect a large portion of your accouts so i guess since its not a big $$ issue like nanos, we can assume CCP is trying the "ignore and go away" method of problem solving
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.04 05:38:00 -
[155]
oh im sorry did you fall off the first page!!!!
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FullBoat
Center For High Times
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Posted - 2008.09.04 09:34:00 -
[156]
I am mainly a Caldari toon. I have Battleship 5, cruiser 5, and can fly at least 85% of the Caldari ships. I was going to go for the dread until I saw some kill mails where a FALCON did more damage then a Phoenix. Now, there is something hugely wrong when a frig, T1 or T2, can get more damage on a titan then a dread.
Are they good against POS's? yes
Are they good for anything else? nope
Like another poster put, they need about 15x more HP then they currently have. But, until they change it, it's time to start training either Aamar, or Galente up if you want to get into a dread.
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Scarlet Visori
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:24:00 -
[157]
help me obi-wan your my only hope!
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.09.05 05:29:00 -
[158]
/signed
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Ragel Tropxe
The Older Gamers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.09.06 15:07:00 -
[159]
/signed
another example seen today in 111. Virtualy all the cap kill mails had Phoenixes doing zero damage.
If this is "working as intended" then why not give Citadel launchers the same r.o.f buff that normal siege launchers got , then at least Phoenixes would do a good amount of dps if they managed to hit something.
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Vily
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.08 22:33:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Ragel Tropxe
/signed
another example seen today in 111. Virtualy all the cap kill mails had Phoenixes doing zero damage.
If this is "working as intended" then why not give Citadel launchers the same r.o.f buff that normal siege launchers got , then at least Phoenixes would do a good amount of dps if they managed to hit something.
pheonix actually have the highest dps of dreads if they are hitting.
sadly they dont hit ANYTHING that isn't a pos
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Catelyn Rose
Black Cross Research and Development
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Posted - 2008.09.09 00:23:00 -
[161]
Don't fly a Phoenix
Probably will never fly a Phoenix
I'll put my name on the line in the name of fairness for all the pilots do want to fly a Phoenix
/signed
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.10 21:56:00 -
[162]
again, i dont think anyone sensible can disagree against this proposal. Just because it isnt spammed like idiotic children would make me think CCP would be MORE inclined to do something about this... but it looks like only the whiney kids get their way around here most of the time
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Immersive
Immersive Technology Solutions
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Posted - 2008.09.11 07:38:00 -
[163]
A friendly nudge
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Omarvelous
Destry's Lounge
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Posted - 2008.09.11 13:23:00 -
[164]
signed - this is a pretty balanced request tbh.
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Roy Hawkinz
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Posted - 2008.09.11 14:36:00 -
[165]
yup this need to get fixed asp.
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Vily
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.13 17:59:00 -
[166]
(sigh)
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Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
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Posted - 2008.09.13 20:39:00 -
[167]
I support the need to fix citadel torps as well.
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Ma Mendes
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.13 21:36:00 -
[168]
/signed
Poor Nag and its torps need some love. I can't believe dreads doing 0 damage is perfectly fine with CCP, what about all the poor Caldari Roleplayers they get it even worse!!!11!! 
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CCP Mitnal
C C P
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Posted - 2008.09.14 17:02:00 -
[169]
Cleaned.
Please note /signed posts are considered spam and will be deleted and are subject to forum warnings and subsequently bans.
Devs may respond in any number of threads but hunting for all the ones on a common theme would take them away from fixing problems so please do not be disappointed if they do not post in any particular thread.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Games, EVE Online
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BiggestT
Caldari
Space Oddysey
Pupule 'Ohana
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Posted - 2008.09.14 17:06:00 -
[170]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned.
Please note /signed posts are considered spam and will be deleted and are subject to forum warnings and subsequently bans.
Devs may respond in any number of threads but hunting for all the ones on a common theme would take them away from fixing problems so please do not be disappointed if they do not post in any particular thread.
\o/ \o/ \o/
Dev response! \o/ Sure nothing is disclosed about the subject matter but at least we know their listening 
Im hoping they increase cit. torp speed to help kill two birds with one stone (Terribly slow cit. missiles and Smartbomb immunity..)
Awesome EVE history
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Vily
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.15 13:17:00 -
[171]
Originally by: CCP Mitnal
Cleaned.
Please note /signed posts are considered spam and will be deleted and are subject to forum warnings and subsequently bans.
Devs may respond in any number of threads but hunting for all the ones on a common theme would take them away from fixing problems so please do not be disappointed if they do not post in any particular thread.
Mate, you have the most important ship class in eve. then you have the fact that one entire race and another half of another race are totally useless within that ship class.
im not asking for a long post on the exact merits of my arguement, im basically just saying i want a dev to come in here and acknowledge there is a SERIOUS PROBLEM and that SOMEONE has recognized that and its being looked at. cause in the other threads i get the impression you all think this shit is working AS INTENDED, and that would be more upsetting than having your weapon system broke for 6+ months and having to bump a thread for 4 of those months.
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Fearless Kill
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2008.09.19 03:25:00 -
[172]
the only reason there were tons of /signed posts were because everyone agrees with it. Granted these type of posts are all over F&D. It would be one thing to edit em all out of all the posts, so we dont have to keep topping this thread to keep it to the attention of ccp
instead all ccp does.... hmmm the peons have a problem with the citadel torps... i know lets ignore it and mod their posts out!
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Nayannia Night
Channel 4 News Team
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Posted - 2008.09.19 04:24:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Nayannia Night on 19/09/2008 04:24:37
why is it everyone whines about the toprs vs smart bombs and not about the fact that any other dread has a chance to fight off, for example, attacking BS. and even a bs can fit a large smart bomb like carriers.
However unlike other dreads vs a non capital ship, they dont worry about the fact that there damage is reduced to 1 damage vs a bs moving 100m/s when they do hit. since missles damage is based on resistance (like guns so nothing special there), but also ship size (vs guns meaning chance to hit, but still possible full damage), and ship velocity vs explosion velocity (unlike guns again with the chance thing).
The Siege mod also reduces the explosion velocity by 92.5%! a rocket under those conditions would have a hard time doing full damage to a moving bs! so a citadel torp with the slowest explosion velocity to reduce it 92% is giving the other ships a damage reduction more than countering the damage bonus. infact it makes the damage reduced to almost nothing!
it would be fine if the torps large explosion radius and slow explosion velocity plus ship resistance were left alone as a factor. that would still make its damage greatly reduced to a smaller ship, but still a threat to a bs squad assaulting it as the other dreads are.
***the fix***
Make the siege mode give a hp bonus to citadels in place of the explosion reduction. this makes normal citadel torps defendable by a smart bomb, but from a seiged dread it can still land hits, and hurt the damn thing (since even a carrier moving gets a good reduction in damage as is)
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RedLion
Caldari
Polaris Project
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.09.19 06:03:00 -
[174]
buff citadel torpedo hp and speed.
buff citadel torpedo damage.
Bring phoenix on pair with the other dreads. (except from scrap metal one)
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Vily
Amarr
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.09.20 13:02:00 -
[175]
Originally by: RedLion
buff citadel torpedo hp and speed.
buff citadel torpedo damage.
Bring phoenix on pair with the other dreads. (except from scrap metal one)
welll the scrap metal one needs the same buff sadly.
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.25 02:25:00 -
[176]
heck i'd even be at least content if all CCP said was we have heard you and are at least looking into the issue. even lying to us would be better than the you originally placed it in the wrong forum therefore the whole issue is null/void
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white kight
SwEaTy ArMpIT RaIDeRs
Coalition of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2008.09.25 08:51:00 -
[177]
We should have got a dev response on this topic by now if they acually thought that this was a problem worth looking at. There are smaller threads than this that have got a dev response. This sucks so much!!!
Originally by: CCP Navigator
Thread Locked.
Please note that the General Discussion area is not....
Oh who am I kidding - Continue 
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CCP Zulupark
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:50:00 -
[178]
Nozh is going to look into this issue, he'll probably post something here later.
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Reptzo
Channel 4 News Team
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Posted - 2008.09.25 16:52:00 -
[179]
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
Nozh is going to look into this issue, he'll probably post something here later.
Thank you for responding and looking in to this.
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.09.25 22:08:00 -
[180]
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
Nozh is going to look into this issue, he'll probably post something here later.
Wohooooo!!! TY, thats all we ask
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