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Wren Alterana
Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:28:00 -
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Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs. _________
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Seldeon
Caldari CompleXion Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:47:00 -
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I am sure the Gallente won't allow the Amarr to enslave you again. As for me and mostly all other Caldari.... don't toss us into that. We have own matters to take care of. Quite simple, isn't it?
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Wren Alterana
Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:50:00 -
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I'm surprised you'd say that, the caldari I spoke to follow this logic: minmatar buy things slaves don't buy things therefore minmatar slaves are bad for business
besides I have friends in both nations and it pains me to see them at each others throats for things that didn't seem important to them until the attack by Noir.
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Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: Seldeon I am sure the Gallente won't allow the Amarr to enslave you again.
As much as I would not like to see a war going on between the Holy Empire and the Minmatar tribal communities, I do see and interesting dilema for the Gallente here. Seeing as they had their part in Minmatar rebellion and that they would be likely engaged in the confict with Caldari State - would they really be bothered by the Minmatar? Taking into account the silence of the Federation after Malkalen I think that taking for granted their proclaimed ideals might be a gross overestimation.
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SolusLunes
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.05.19 00:56:00 -
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In all honesty, don't come crying to me for aid when the Amarr Empire comes thundering down on you when, inevitably, it will happen.
Because, as you may well know, I keep my warpdrive oiled with Minmatar blood. It's the only thing that does the trick. -------- Real men are not born, rather, created in tubes.
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Alexei Freeman
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.19 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana I'm surprised you'd say that, the caldari I spoke to follow this logic: minmatar buy things slaves don't buy things therefore minmatar slaves are bad for business
Unless your business is slaves, and your profits will be greater in the selling of slaves than selling goods to non-slaves. Plus, slaves still need things, and master will buy them. Sure, not many buy long-limb roe or Quafe, but you need antibiotics, food, tools, clothing, and a host of other common items.
Not that IÆm saying that the Caldari are engaged in the slave trade, IÆm just saying that the slave trade wouldnÆt exist if it wasnÆt economically viable.
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Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.19 06:07:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs.
Why not join the Ammatar? They are doing great. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Sahriah BloodStone
Caldari Underworld Protection Agency The Crimson Federation
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Posted - 2008.05.19 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs.
Interesting that your worried about yourselves instead of all the other innocent lives at stake. How lucky we are to have you.
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Rainrix Deathwish
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:17:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs.
Miss Alterana, I am sorry but yes firstly this is a rather selfish point of view. I know we're all in fear of an all out war breaking out but we shouldn't just be worrying about ourselves.
Secondly we, The Matari, Should never become complacent and just rely on our allies to protect us. It should never be the case that we need others to defend ourself...
Thirdly, We should be more prepared for our Gallente allies to be asking US for help. I don't agree with any wars breaking out... And I do not defend what Admiral Noir has done... But in the end they are still our allies. I hope that no war breaks out but it seems inevitable now... ------------------------------------- Anti-Slavery doesn't mean Anti-Amarr! |
Stitcher
Caldari Rin-Ruuka Kyun
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Rainrix Deathwish And I do not defend what Admiral Noir has done... But in the end they are still our allies. I hope that no war breaks out but it seems inevitable now...
Just remember that they used to be our allies as well, once. The Caldari were once part of the Federation, and look what it earned us.
Now, am I saying that they'll do that to you? No, I'm not. We taught them that lesson a century ago, with blood and fire, and I strongly doubt that they're stupid enough to have forgotten it entirely.
Nevertheless, if the Minmatar value honour, then I'd suggest that it's about time that the Republic re-evaluates its relationship with the Federation.
You're a strong people. You don't need Them, nor do you need Us. All I can say is that it seems to me that our peoples share a common history - that of being bullied into submission by a larger, more powerful force, until we finally were able to effect our respective emancipations. We ought to be kindred spirits, and it saddens me that the Caldari have always been a little too insular to provide the Minmatar with the respect and support that you deserve.
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Disruptorr
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 07:47:00 -
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I wouldn't be surprised if there was a malevolent Minmatar influence on recent events. Be warned, I have personally intercepted suspicious Minmatar and Gallente activities within Amarr space on orders from the Emperor Family Bureau, as I'm sure many others have as well. So what next? An attack in Throne Worlds? Shallow requests of "Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs" when your covertly maneuvering yourselves to as yet unknown ends.
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Kersh Marelor
Amarr Federal European Industry Science and Research
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Rainrix Deathwish And I do not defend what Admiral Noir has done... But in the end they are still our allies.
So you would go to war even if it was found out that the attack in Malkalen was staged by the Federation? Just because you call them allies you would like to die in the name of their crimes? That is... sad.
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Rainrix Deathwish
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.05.19 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kersh Marelor
Originally by: Rainrix Deathwish And I do not defend what Admiral Noir has done... But in the end they are still our allies.
So you would go to war even if it was found out that the attack in Malkalen was staged by the Federation? Just because you call them allies you would like to die in the name of their crimes? That is... sad.
If it was planned and staged by the Federation I personally would not go to war. I'd be more interested in defending Republic space...
If it was an unfortunate incident planned by a few individuals i'd defend the Federation if needed, but as for now i'm not sure if i'd take part in any offensive missions into Caldari space... It would feel kinda... Wrong. ------------------------------------- Anti-Slavery doesn't mean Anti-Amarr! |
Heriso
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Posted - 2008.05.19 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs.
Let the amarr dog's come, and they shall burn with the rest. by death we serve |
Haraldhardrade
Amarr Pax Amarr
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Posted - 2008.05.19 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Heriso
Originally by: Wren Alterana Please don't kill each other. Your the only ones keeping the Amarr of our backs.
Let the amarr dog's come, and they shall burn with the rest.
Ah. To be young and wreckless again. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
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Beletre
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.05.19 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Alexei Freeman Not that IÆm saying that the Caldari are engaged in the slave trade, IÆm just saying that the slave trade wouldnÆt exist if it wasnÆt economically viable.
Actaully, if you take a look at the production costs and profits of a slave run industry versus an industry of freed labor, slaves are, from a purely economic standpoint, a bad idea. Production is low, guard costs are high, rebelions chew into what little profit there is, and the market for slave made goods isn't as high.
No, the slave trade remains for religious, cultural, and meglomania reasons.
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Seldeon
Caldari CompleXion Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.19 15:58:00 -
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Agreed. Slavery is not lucrative for us Caldari. Although i do not support slavery in any terms, we have way more seriouse troubles than your fear of the Amarr coming for you.
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2008.05.19 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wren Alterana I'm surprised you'd say that, the caldari I spoke to follow this logic: minmatar buy things slaves don't buy things therefore minmatar slaves are bad for business
Oh please. The purchasing power of a free Matari is several orders of magnitude lower than that of the Amarr slave holders. Add to that the significantly more expensive tastes of the slave holders and you'll quickly conclude that (re-)enslaving the Matari, while a deplorable prospect, is best for business.
What should be addressed before the storm comes is the almost certain violations of the various Yulai conventions. My fear is that the Matari will not distinguish between civilian and military targets once their backs are against the wall.
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Alexei Freeman
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.05.20 04:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hirana Yoshida My fear is that the Matari will not distinguish between civilian and military targets once their backs are against the wall.
Sadly, itÆs not that unusual of an occurrence in a war, despite our wishes to avoid civilian casualties, and the knowledge that such actions are despicable. Just ask Admiral Tovil-Toba.
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Wren Alterana
Minmatar The Baros Syndicate Kissaki Republic
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Posted - 2008.05.20 05:17:00 -
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the difference between a military slaveholder and a civilian slaveholder is trivial at best. I fully endorse any Amarrians trying to free the slaves and invite them to help from the inside, however there will be deaths of innocents, its a primary feature of war, people die. As for covert movements inside Amarr space, while we hope for the best, we are preparing for the worst. I expect the peace to not hold for much longer. _________
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