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Una D
Ex Coelis The Bantam Menace
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: okcerg
Originally by: Furb Killer
The problem is that CCP just doesnt admit it they did it to raise prices and that they removed the 30 and 90 day GTCs, which just plain sucks.
I agree the 30d GTC will be missed... But how could they raise the prices AND keep selling 30d GTCs. Think about it it's just not possible. They would have to rise 30d GTC price to 21$ so a european could buy it for 14€. That's nonsense when the 30d CC sub is way cheaper for americans.
in short: HOW COULD THEY MAKE EUROPEANS PAY IN €uros? By getting rid of GTC? No way, it would be heaven for ISK farmers.
So guys, have a thought and try to find how could CCP make europeans pay in € WITHOUT removing GTCs
They came up with a good compromise imo...
I'm sure that once dollar recovers the prices of GTCs will go down or will it be another increas as the € is falling towards dollar and we are losing cash... That is BS argument. There is always a reason to increase the prices and never to lower them.
I don't see any other MMO having that kind of rates. Looks like EVE id circling the drain. No fixes on the horizont but increased price and 60days GTCs to make everything more fun...
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Warrior Crash
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:31:00 -
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The main reason im P***ed off cause of this is because I profer GTC's as they dont screew me out 5 days here and there each month like when i started playing when i was using a direct credit card payment to CCP. There was both that and the early charge on the account sometimes by 10 days before due.
This hasn't just happened to me in the corp im in, same most likely goes for tones of other players out there that may not of knoticed. http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1315/nfssigur6.gif |
iloni atoriandra
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:32:00 -
[363]
I run 4 accounts on 90day GTC's and im going to be paying for Conan. Theres no way im going to be paying a nearly 30% increase on each of the EVE accounts so ill definately be cancelling at least 1 of them now.
I find it very coincidental that they up the price when is coming out soon and to take an active part in FW you need to use a char that isnt in an alliance, meaning that for a lot of people they will need to set up an alt. This seems very underhanded of CCP encouraging people to make more alt accounts for FW and then increaseing the subscription costs......
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:45:00 -
[364]
Conspiracy, get the tinfoil hats.
Totally ridiculous btw. This is simply the most logical time to do it.
One of Eve's strongest points is free expansions. Raise monthly price close to expansion release and potential new player will think: "yeah right, 'free' expansions that happen to have raise in monthly cost". Release it after expansion and new players that came and did trial account wont like it that just when they started playing for arround a month CCP increases price, so they stop.
so they did it before expansion.
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:50:00 -
[365]
free expansions my ass
it's just wrapping for the "finishing beta"
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El'Niaga
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:51:00 -
[366]
Originally by: Princess Gally
Originally by: El'Niaga Well lets look at two reasons they did this.
1. Folks paying for 30 days then not paying for 30 days to skill train for free. Yep this eliminates that option through the GTCs. You would have to pay for 60 days then off 30 then pay 60 days, off 30 etc. So it will cut down slightly on the abuse.
Off-training is an abuse? Says who? WHERE did you see a dev saying it's an abuse, I'd like to read the post with the blue bars because what you think, I don't care.
Imo CCP realise a lot of europeans use US 30d GTC because it's damn cheap and want to make them use CC subscription.
And CCP IS NOT closing the "GTC loophole" people. To end that they would have to remove completely the GTC system. But they must have estimate they would lose too many customers.
Whether they've said so or not is irrelevant. It robs them of subscription money when folks do it, so limiting it makes business sense.
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iloni atoriandra
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:55:00 -
[367]
Currently it costs me ú320 (roughly $640) to run all my accounts for 1 year. Under the new pricing it would cost me ú420 (roughly $840). So thats an extra $200 a year, or roughly a 31% increase. These are rough figures as converion amounts vary but a 31% increase is an obscene amount.
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FeatherDust
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 10:58:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Khudo
Quote: like factional warfare and not fixing any real issues.
Quote: TRUE
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Lag = Still waiting Killing Isk sellers = still waiting Solving balance issues = still waiting...
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CCP is not a game provider ... It's business only.
QFT.
Hi, dear CCP, You don't fix obvious bugs in time. Ok, I'll wait a little bit longer. You fix this bugs adding more new bugs. (Everybody remember that Scanner button issue?) Ok, I like the game, nobody's perfect. And you need more money or that. I say WTF?
Can you please answer, what the hell I'm paying for? Factional warfare? Ha-ha.
Bad approach CCP.
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:00:00 -
[369]
Some day you will get that eve doesnt revolve arround you.
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Nukkari
Paragon Horizons THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:03:00 -
[370]
Price increase yes, thats fine by me, but 30%+ in one go. And by saying it "attunes" product offering, how? Someone somewhere needs to rethink this.
Wait i get it, this is how you stop lag? Reduce your membership base.
/me watched the character sale pages expanding greatly soon, some of mine included
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer Some day you will get that eve doesnt revolve arround you.
/signed ccp is not god and should not act like it the custommers and their wallets are eve as much as ccp is
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Rramar Claime
Kingdom of Kador Kingdom of Redemption
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:15:00 -
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As i said in so many topics before, that's the SW:G way of doing things... Dont listen to customers just go for the money and mess the whole game up. You are doing exactly that CCP and im really sad about seeing that in my favourite game. I hear a LOT of people in the game saying eve is dying and THEY ARE LEAVING THE GAME! I act like i didnt hear them because i still think you guys will recognize that this is! an existing problem. You are going in the wrong direction with almost every decision. Please... work for the game and for the customers too, not for the money only!
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
Rramar Claime
Kingdom of Kador Kingdom of Redemption
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Khudo
Quote: like factional warfare and not fixing any real issues.
Quote: TRUE
ABULATION = Crap Factionnal Warfare = Crap Changing EW frigz skin = WTF ?!
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Lag = Still waiting Killing Isk sellers = still waiting Solving balance issues = still waiting...
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CCP is not a game provider ... It's business only.
This this and this!
"I cherish the memories of a question my grandson asked me the other day, when he said; 'Grandpa, were you a hero in the war?' Grandpa said, 'No, but I served in a company of heroes." |
Shiasafri
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:24:00 -
[374]
Add the 60d option and raise all three, Screw us over by giving us no other payment options.
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Wraith101
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:26:00 -
[375]
The removal the 30 and 90 day gtc's just sucks. I see no reason for the that change. IF they just wanted to even out the exchange rates or increase the money intake. It would be a lot easier just to announce that we are raising gtc prices to reflect it. I am glad i am leaving this game. IMO it has gone downhill in many ways for a while now. BTW NO you cant have my stuff. :P
/me signed
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sakurako
OffBeat Creations The Covenant Alliance
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:29:00 -
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this will hit in 2 ways
1 - your own walet 2 - there will also be less etc for sale for isk due to the higher cost
on a side note i can see these selling at 250-350m isk each as there will be only the one option might even be higher
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:30:00 -
[377]
Edited by: Tippia on 23/05/2008 11:30:59 Good thing my cost for playing won't increase…
edit: …and even if it did, it would still be worth it.
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:34:00 -
[378]
Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 23/05/2008 11:30:59 Good thing my cost for playing won't increaseà
edit: àand even if it did, it would still be worth it.
what about the people you play with you're ok with them leaving over stupid measures ?
and if you play solo than go play wow pls
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MBlaster
TANK.
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:38:00 -
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The price rise doesn't bother me, CCP is a business after all. I just want to pay monthly as its more convenient for me.
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Tippia
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:40:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger what about the people you play with you're ok with them leaving over stupid measures ?
Well, they're not leaving either, so no worries there.
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Karando
Random Goods
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:47:00 -
[381]
17.5 dollars per 30 days, this is a joke. With a price of $38.85 for 90 days of game time, you could get a third month for $3.86 more.
Could it be that the 22nd of May is some kind of "Second April Fools' Day"?
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Locii
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:53:00 -
[382]
Me and teh gf run 6 accounts between us, thsi is mainly so we can enjoy all aspects of eve without choking 1 account with too many skills to ever be able to train... 4 accounts will now be cancelled if this goes ahead..
epic fail ccp
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Zetjur Jilnou
Rapid Deployment Industries
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:56:00 -
[383]
LOL @ The number of eternal quitters.
OH MY GOD SO MANY MORE DOLLARS, WHATEVER WILL WE DO
(Perhaps blame your government for your failing currency?)
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Sabrina Treadehugger
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Sabrina Treadehugger what about the people you play with you're ok with them leaving over stupid measures ?
Well, they're not leaving either, so no worries there.
some of mine are leaving or cancelling accounts.
also you will never know it but you might miss making some new friends becouse of this.
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Toreth
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Posted - 2008.05.23 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: Toreth on 23/05/2008 12:04:20 Edited by: Toreth on 23/05/2008 12:01:48
Originally by: Zetjur Jilnou (Perhaps blame your government for your failing currency?)
My currency is at the highest it's ever been since it was floated in 1983.
Removing the 30 day GTCs and making it more expensive to pay in isk is what will get me. The value of paying by CC is at the cheapest it's ever been, but after years of paying that way I just switched to GTC's only to have this happen a month after.
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True Carebear
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:02:00 -
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Edited by: True Carebear on 23/05/2008 12:02:52 i just liek having the coice to buy in 30 and 90 day options. ok buying in $ helps a lot when you live in the uk. but a 30% rise in price is very unfair on players not to mention taking away there choice about how much time to buy in 1 go
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GB Man
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:11:00 -
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I can't be bothered to read through 14 pages of comments. That being said, am I the only one who thinks that the drastic change to GTC sales has less to do with equalizing the price exchange for the US dollar and more on a veiled attempt to hinder RMT sales?
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Breytac
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:11:00 -
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Well, I was going to raise isk for a carrier alt by selling GTC's, as well as I want this character to fly HAC's and Marauders. I don't buy my GTC's through the Eve Store, so unless the site I get GTC's from sells the new cards at a minimum, it looks like it will be years before I get my alt into carriers and my main into HAC's and Marauders, not the months I was hoping for.
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GB Man
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: Breytac Well, I was going to raise isk for a carrier alt by selling GTC's, as well as I want this character to fly HAC's and Marauders. I don't buy my GTC's through the Eve Store, so unless the site I get GTC's from sells the new cards at a minimum, it looks like it will be years before I get my alt into carriers and my main into HAC's and Marauders, not the months I was hoping for.
This brings up a pretty important point. I foresee a massive buyout of GTCs by RMT websites to keep this going. CCP probably knows this will happen, but the real question is, can CCP do anything about it?
I am a huge supporter of CCPs secure ETC system. But I see that system utterly falling apart in favor of buying the GTCs from 3rd party stores.
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ROPE HEAD
KickAssCrew
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Posted - 2008.05.23 12:17:00 -
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not being able to pick a 30 day gtc bites and "wah wah wah" credit card ftw now
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