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Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:27:00 -
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Edited by: Aenis Veros on 24/05/2008 13:29:32 0.0 Ratting:
Can be done in one single ship, killing ships gives you ability to get faction mods and make hundreds of million ISK without needing to haul, or essentially take any risk (just warp away as soon as someone enters local). You can get in easily with a nanoed ship and get out as easily, all doable solo - outside of an alliance.
0.0 Mining (currently):
You can't get into 0.0 with a mining barge, forget it. You must have a hauler, and somewhere to drop off the ore, forget it. In many cases you will also need another person to tank. You must be a part of a large alliance to mine high-end ores. The profit, even with high-ends is limited; especially considering you need to split it with the people that are with you that followed you on your endeavour.
I'm simply making the latter be equal to the first. That is all. But apparently letting miners have the same opportunity that PvE/PvP:ers have is equal to making a mining barge titan with 20 highslots. Geesh, I knew these forums had some desperate trolls, but really.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.05.24 13:58:00 -
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Wow is >>> way.
eve isnt a signel player experince, its multiplayer your going have to deal with people ruining your life in the game.
I welcome you to review my ship suggestion in my sig, because yours so far is no better than that 10 launcher carcal or that 30 gun ship mentioned a week ago.
Also think like a dev and reanalyze the ships similar to the current role your suggesting Current Barges where limited CPU for one reason, Why? to deny them the cloaking device, Current Barges where limited on Grid, Why? to deny them MWDs
Its also clear you need to play this game from more aspects other than your carebare side, go try hunting down a macro ratter and see how fun that is, trust me it isnt they warp off cloak then log.
New Ship Idea: Tender Supply Ship, The Logistics Sister |
Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Wow is >>> way.
So go there you clichT spurting nublet.
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eve isnt a signel player experince, its multiplayer your going have to deal with people ruining your life in the game.
Instead of repeating the same drivel over and over again, how about you counter the premise here. Why is it OK for PvE:ers to do a thing and miners not? No you can't, you have to resort to using the typical "I can't present a valid retort at all, so let's make stupid WoW-references" BS.
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I welcome you to review my ship suggestion in my sig, because yours so far is no better than that 10 launcher carcal or that 30 gun ship mentioned a week ago.
No, this is a completely valid design. And no matter how many times you repeat your BS, it still will be. Tough.
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Also think like a dev and reanalyze the ships similar to the current role your suggesting Current Barges where limited CPU for one reason, Why? to deny them the cloaking device, Current Barges where limited on Grid, Why? to deny them MWDs
Current barges were also created in a time when EVE had about 1/8:th the population, there still was space you could go to as a small group, and could make ISK without having to associate yourself with a big alliance. Your argument does not hold, because this is an ever-changing ever improving game, regardless of how people who like to whine about changes (like you) keep trying to hold that back.
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Its also clear you need to play this game from more aspects other than your carebare side, go try hunting down a macro ratter and see how fun that is, trust me it isnt they warp off cloak then log.
Hah, you think I'm a miner? I'm not. I have no skillpoints in mining whatsoever.
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JafoPBCFR
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:44:00 -
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Im having togo with no. Able to cloak to get out of danger ok. But cloaked mining no.
it would open the Target while cloaked and fire while cloaked. which i would love but i dont think it would improve the game.
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Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.24 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: JafoPBCFR Im having togo with no. Able to cloak to get out of danger ok. But cloaked mining no.
it would open the Target while cloaked and fire while cloaked. which i would love but i dont think it would improve the game.
I agree, firing weapons while cloaked wouldn't be a good thing. Unless maybe scanning cloaked targets became possible.
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2008.05.25 01:43:00 -
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How about CCP just gives us 50 bill each, and make ALL items available on market at 100 ISK each? This would solve pretty much everything... No one will have to actually DO anything for any ISK.
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Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.25 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jinx Barker How about CCP just gives us 50 bill each, and make ALL items available on market at 100 ISK each? This would solve pretty much everything... No one will have to actually DO anything for any ISK.
How about you counter the argument instead of being stupid?
Why can a miner not do what a PvE:er can in terms of making ISK?
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Grarr Dexx
Naval Protection Corp Carpe Universitas
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:37:00 -
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If you want the ISK, you take the risk.
This idea gets a big thumbs down.
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Aenis Veros
Alphaflight
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Posted - 2008.05.25 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Grarr Dexx If you want the ISK, you take the risk.
This idea gets a big thumbs down.
BS, as if there's any risk involved in ratting in a nano-Ishtar in 0.0 that has a cloak.
Or a cloaked raven.
NEXT!
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Grojar Flesp
SQS Group
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Posted - 2008.05.25 09:33:00 -
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Somebody please close and delete this post please ------------------------- This is so much fun to watch, it's like a kick in the crotch
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Kame Malice
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Posted - 2008.05.25 09:41:00 -
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PVPers make ISK doing PVP and thus fit for PVP
Miners make ISK mining, and thus fit for mining
Fitting a mining ship to counter the risk from PVP while at the same time opening up the ability to still make masive ISK from mining with the potential to expand to PVP using the same Ubership...
NOT SIGNED!
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Voidlite
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Posted - 2008.05.25 10:09:00 -
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Im /signing it if only it gets:
Role bonus: +500% damage recived from smartbombs, max velocity -100% while cloaked, announces "I R STEALTH MINING AT(Asteroid belt name and number here)in local every time you cloak.
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W3370Pi4
Lords Of Kaos
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Posted - 2008.05.25 19:12:00 -
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this wont happen plus i dont see any fun in mining cloaked i know 0.0 mining can be challenging but common be realistic
i solo mine a lot i understand how hard it can be for a miner with a single account to have some fun without sharing benefits , CCP will add some uber mining ship someday just not now maybe when the population in eve doubles
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