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xBlood Anoint	Posted - 2008.05.26 20:50:00 - [61] Lucus Ranger > dude I cba to post anymore Bleh. Sorry for messing up your thread d00ds. Anoint Recruitment
Kiay Stryx The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:01:00 - [62] Originally by: praznimrak That brutix was lucky.I did not have dmg control so i hade to warp out.And nobody else had point on him.Next time.Normaly i dont fly ishkur.Well see you out there Yeah I'm surprised I got away myself =)
Richard Winters Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:12:00 - [63] Originally by: xBlood Lucus Ranger > dude I cba to post anymore Bleh. Sorry for messing up your thread d00ds. oke u 2 i see Lucus stealing my love Xblood so i will let him do it eheh becouse i merrid Xblood becouse he have nice friends (girls) hehe :P no more posting for me here (i dont know this guys) ------------------------------------------------ Our disease, everywhere I wander I trail the song of your despair, everywhere don't you breathe, don't you dare? Only life, do you care when it'
Kiay Stryx The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:15:00 - [64] 1920x1200 version of the same video is here...
Faekurias Cash Money Brothers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2008.05.26 21:24:00 - [65] Wow, that's some post. Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected]
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:11:00 - [66] Originally by: Endeva Originally by: xBlood Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points rofl you get it right:D Excellent summary by xBlood. I'm actually going to add it to the last part of the OP. o/ Endeva - that Stiletto 1v1 in NZW is still one of the most fun/invigorating fights I've had in this game. I find the lack of ANTX is this thread amusing. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:34:00 - [67] Edited by: Endeva on 26/05/2008 22:34:07 Originally by: Havohej Originally by: Endeva Originally by: xBlood Actually a good post for once. Don't have a clue about how much is true or fiction, but it was well worded and a good read. Tldr version (without flaming). Venom goes heads up. Some go to anthrax death who screws over a couple of corps. Those corps make defiant. anthrax death hires a well known 'bob-blue' corp to defend them, and in so doing get blue standings to bob while still being goon/tcf/unl pets. defiant feel butt-hurt Think I got most the points rofl you get it right:D Excellent summary by xBlood. I'm actually going to add it to the last part of the OP. o/ Endeva - that Stiletto 1v1 in NZW is still one of the most fun/invigorating fights I've had in this game. I find the lack of ANTX is this thread amusing. yeh same m8 for me. if eve has more 1vs1 nice fights like that one. gf O/ Eve needs changes asap
Franziska Nietzche Tucher Associates Inc. Zzz	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:35:00 - [68] Maybe they're simply ignoring you. How long have you been a CEO? You should know by now that EVE politics are never pretty.
Endeva Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.05.26 22:59:00 - [69] Originally by: Franziska Nietzche Maybe they're simply ignoring you. How long have you been a CEO? You should know by now that EVE politics are never pretty. yeh lots of them are ignoring me and i know what is the reason:P what how long i am ceo have to do with anything here? i dont need politics. thats for****s. i got guns Eve needs changes asap
Dr BattleSmith PAX Interstellar Services ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:18:00 - [70] You've added 1+1 up to 5000 :-) Anthrax Death has never been or had BoB or Goodfellas as blue, they are red, pure and simple. Anthrax Death has at no stage hired Goodfellas, this appears to be Defi4nt spin to cover their own tracks, if someone did, take it up with them. It is clear from the chatlog with CM (my alt) that my only concerns with us being blue to Defi4nt would be any connections Defi4nt has to BoB as no one around here wants that. It's also clear that I refer to the Goodfellas incident as a rumor and that the sources of it had been called into doubt. Nice try however your claims lack any real substance as they are based purely on a number of false assumptions. Anyone with questions can contact myself or Mizztres Death Dr BattleSmith
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:36:00 - [71] A Fraps of an unusually large GODS/BOB gang rushing to the rescue of your dread has substance. A chatlog with the CEOs of MOWE has substance. Those same two MOWE CEOs' posts in this very thread have substance. You, not saying that it was false when you spoke with our Executrix, has substance. You changed the subject away from the incident as quickly as you could in that conversation. You said "the connection was made and has been called into doubt." Not, "we didn't do that." If you hadn't done it, you wouldn't have chosen the words "the connection was made" as, in your mind, there would be no connection to make in the first place, the whole thing would be so much rubbish. Your choice of words let slip a confession - all the substance we needed to post this publicly. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Azrail Almooran Old Dominion Engineering Nihil-Obstat	Posted - 2008.05.26 23:45:00 - [72] Edited by: Azrail Almooran on 26/05/2008 23:45:34 Originally by: Havohej A Fraps of an unusually large GODS/BOB gang rushing to the rescue of your dread has substance. A chatlog with the CEOs of MOWE has substance. Those same two MOWE CEOs' posts in this very thread have substance. He has you there, a chat log of them admiting it seems pretty conclusive to me.
Giz S	Posted - 2008.05.27 01:51:00 - [73] Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games".
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 02:03:00 - [74] Originally by: Giz S Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games". Post with your main and turn your corp and alliance ticker on - it's under Forum>Settings on the left. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Gizan Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 02:07:00 - [75] Personally we don't care what you guys think. we were told not to engage Defiant in Omist, but when we were engaged TCF was contacted and they gave us the Go-Ahead to attack us because you guys wouldn't follow their rules. After several weeks things changed( such as the new "corp" tax inacted to rob us of out money) and several other things where corps went to defiant to be "tcf pets". my own ceo at the time removed me of all my roles becuase i told the alliance heads about a possible attack, and then left the alliance. To be honest we dont care how you decide to spin the facts, but we all know who the problem is, and its not mizztres. its the guy that is playing "secret squirrel games".
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 03:29:00 - [76] Edited by: Havohej on 27/05/2008 03:34:19 Looking at your kb and our kb, I don't see any discrepancies between our posted losses and your posted kills, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. I won't bother looking to see if you're posting all of your losses, as it doesn't matter to us whether you post your killmails or not. Even if you don't post it, that doesn't mean you didn't get blown up. Someone asked me to check, and so I did... there was a POS which got destroyed in g-b3pr. Belonged to ANTX... ANTX's killboard doesn't reflect that. You can find the mail on our killboard and take care of that when you get time, if you care about killboard accuracy and stuff like that. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Orar Ironfist Incarnation of Evil Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:06:00 - [77] I didnt read any of this but wth you doing out of C+P. Back! Bac***k!!!11 we cant have any pirates making threads here or we end up with that absolutely terrible idle guns thread like last time!!1 Pirate for Life(no matter my sec)
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:08:00 - [78] Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 04:41:00 - [79] Mate ive been reading this while at work (shhh dont tell). I hope people see what kind of tactics Anthrax is using in fighting an alliance half its size. Hmmm makes you think....No ?
jedijed The Subtle Knife ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:17:00 - [80] I dont know anything about all this chatlog and contractin ** but i do know i like to fight REDIA as well as other defiant members:) u guys are always around lookin for a kill:) but you keep my days on eve purposeful. except when were campin u guys in station that ** gets borin and make me waste ammos :( but in anycase u guys are a nice fight win or loose :) shoot me cos im bait :)
Ehris Bok Stellar Research Incorporated DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:41:00 - [81] Thats what were here for to have fun this is only a game after all. But you have to have some controversy to it all to keep things interesting
droopie Marines Of A New Dawn ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 06:53:00 - [82] frickin bs drama crap. fight fight fight and screw the politics
Reaping Death Imperial Academy	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:08:00 - [83] Edited by: Reaping Death on 27/05/2008 09:12:50
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:13:00 - [84] Post with your main. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:13:00 - [85] Well I wasnt going to post here as i am not a forum type of person but this warrents a reply. Hav I know you are still upset over what had happened to you in Anthrax as you didnt care for soulara and T5K and here is the chat log of you stating that: 2008.05.14 02:22:25 ] Havohej > Likewise. The only people I have any personal issues with are T5K and Soulara, for his unjustified chest thumping and threats when I tried to leave quietly and without drama. [ 2008.05.14 02:23:07 ] Havohej > Everybody else's grudges are their own... I'd rather not be red to quite a few of you guys, but it's beyond my power. =/ [ 2008.05.14 02:23:09 ] Mizztres Death > hell I didint even know what happened between you guys as it is nonoe of my business [ 2008.05.14 02:23:26 ] Mizztres Death > I just do not want to see you and a few others in the crossfrire [ 2008.05.14 02:23:45 ] Mizztres Death > cause goons are not too happy with you guys and a few others from my understanding (hear say from soulara) [ 2008.05.14 02:24:06 ] Havohej > I hated goonswarm anyway :P Now as far as your chat log there when Redia was talking with Endeva it looks like it is more incriminating to you guys then Anthrax. We do not need to hire anyone to fight for us especially against you guys, as far as naming me in any of that please show me your evidence. now we know why you left and why INSU was kicked and that had nothing to do with me as I wasnt able to kick,set standings or anything as I was not allowed to have an alt in SMRI just for the simple fact that Soulara knew I was getting too close to the truth about what he was doing in anthrax. And just so you know once Soular stepped down and handed Ozz and myself the leadership of the alliance i went to Redia and tried to make a peace offering and it was turned down, so I went to tcf leadership and worked things out with them as you are citizens of tcf. Now as for you I thought you were a little smarter than this to fall into the rumours and propaganda. Well I guess i was wrong thats my bad for trying to give you the benifit of the doubt. As far as getting kicked from the allaince yes it happend for what ? roughly 5 minutes..lol PXIS bought Anthrax and SMRI for the sum of 3.5 bil and 1 thanatos and Battlesmith was fed some misinformation and ran with it without knowing all the facts, well now that he has the facts of what was going on everything has been worked out and we are back in the alliance along with holding the station and will continue to do so. There is no reason for me to try too explain myself to anyone just for the simple fact I know what the truth is about whats going on here, and if you think for 1 minute that your post is in anyway going to hurt me you have another thing coming as I havent done anything wrong. So please in the future please get your facts correct as you are looking more like an idiot with every post you make just for the simple fact is that you THINK you know what you are talking about when you truly dont. Anyway have a nice day and i will see you later :)
Yue Rubens Fnord Works DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:16:00 - [86] Ok I feel like replying to that crap we have no connection to BoB, we have been red to BoB ever since my corporation set foot in 0.0 and we will never swap allegiance. I'm co-founder and as in charge of defi4nt alliance as the others, with my friends here, and none of us has even talked to BoB. It was md's connection that made us loose our relation with goons and we mourn it, but antx intrigue goes a long way. What were soularas exact words? "Those people are so on my **list now we will use any means so they never find a home in 0.0 again." We are still here. Ask Ol' Delsai, former tcf immensea manager, ask Baline Manager, Fnord holds two offices in tcf stations, and we are proud of our bond to the coalition. It goes back to when we were CDSI and were blue to goons, ra, unl and tcf. I am an omist resident, you are not, we kicked you out of g-b and tcf didn't give a f* - now who's the bob friend, eh? You're still tagged in omist surveillance, but how would you know you've lost access hahahaha. You make me laugh. Yue On a sidenote to the coalition, if there is anything we can do to prove our worth, say it. Though more than half a year of being blue without any incidents should do the job in my opinion.
Havohej The Defias Brotherhood DEFI4NT	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:35:00 - [87] Everybody who reads C&P, GD, CAOD or the new Assembly Hall has seen me post negatively toward Goons - I don't like them in general. Me and 2 of my corpmates camped a gate with some goons while still in ANTX and I said it to them then during the course of amicable conversation. Some individual goons are alright - the Swarm as a whole just isn't my 'thing'. That's a personal opinion, it's never been hidden or concealed. It also has no bearing on this thread. What's your connection to the hiring of Goodfellas and setting BoB Blue? Simple - you were the Executor of ANTX at that time. Originally by: Mizztres Death And just so you know once Soular stepped down and handed Ozz and myself the leadership of the alliance i went to Redia and tried to make a peace offering and it was turned down, so I went to tcf leadership and worked things out with them as you are citizens of tcf. You're red to us, CDSI, BURN, Nihil-Obstat, etc. Come on down to Omist and see who doesn't shoot at you. I know why you were kicked out of ANTX, and I know why you're back in ANTX. I'll refrain from posting that here until it suits us to do so, because frankly it has nothing to do with the topic at hand which is ANTX hiring GODS to help defend against DEFY, and setting BOB blue in the process. Regardless of how much smoke you try to blow, the video, the chat log between Redia, Endeva and Drug Kito, and Endeva and Drug Kito's posts in this same thread corroborating our allegations can neither be ignored nor denied. Soulara was gone, Dr Battlesmith had not yet assumed control, so that leaves only you. Originally by: techzer0 I'm invincible until proven wrong
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:37:00 - [88] WoW do you even pay attention to what you read ? look at the post that hav posted it implacates Soulara and Redia and which Soulara is no longer part of Anthrax..lol And I love how Hav left the rest of the convo out of his post :) Look if you cannot pay attention to what you read i will make the post a bit shorter for you..lol [ 2008.05.23 01:47:40 ] Redia > how much could i hire for then [ 2008.05.23 01:55:23 ] Drug Kito > ok, if you wanna make a deal its fine by me... hate goons anyway [ 2008.05.23 01:57:22 ] Redia > ok when do you get paid Those are some of the main comments in this ^ [ 2008.05.23 02:00:17 ] Endeva > with some bob [ 2008.05.23 02:00:21 ] Endeva > not all [ 2008.05.23 02:00:31 ] YelowJack > thats interesting ... [ 2008.05.23 02:00:37 ] Endeva > i think [ 2008.05.23 02:00:41 ] Endeva > they cannot make a gang [ 2008.05.23 02:00:46 ] Endeva > to be big as yours [ 2008.05.23 02:00:55 ] YelowJack > they can [ 2008.05.23 02:01:00 ] YelowJack > they have more members then us [ 2008.05.23 02:01:14 ] Endeva > yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:01:15 ] Redia > x2 more [ 2008.05.23 02:01:23 ] Endeva > but quality > quantity [ 2008.05.23 02:01:41 ] Drug Kito > anyway guys, we need to go.... you want to hire us or not? [ 2008.05.23 02:01:52 ] YelowJack > they just cant stop us .... they are trying to use cap ship to stop us now .... indeed ... they are loosing ships right and left .. [ 2008.05.23 02:01:54 ] Endeva > if you need to think [ 2008.05.23 02:01:57 ] YelowJack > we got think about it m8 [ 2008.05.23 02:01:59 ] Endeva > contact drug kito [ 2008.05.23 02:02:03 ] Endeva > ingame [ 2008.05.23 02:02:08 ] Endeva > you can check our kb [ 2008.05.23 02:02:12 ] Endeva > to see what we do [ 2008.05.23 02:02:24 ] YelowJack > yeap [ 2008.05.23 02:02:26 ] YelowJack > we know :) [ 2008.05.23 02:02:31 ] Endeva > hehe [ 2008.05.23 02:02:33 ] YelowJack > you guys are annoying in nano gangs [ 2008.05.23 02:02:41 ] YelowJack > :) [ 2008.05.23 02:02:44 ] Redia > http://defalli.griefwatch.net/?p=campaigns&campaign=3305 [ 2008.05.23 02:02:45 ] Endeva > lol [ 2008.05.23 02:03:20 ] Redia > thats how pathetic anthrax muppets are [ 2008.05.23 02:03:21 ] Endeva > antraxx is not that good [ 2008.05.23 02:03:32 ] Endeva > i tihnk you can easly solo them [ 2008.05.23 02:03:42 ] Endeva > if they are better they wouldnt stay docked [ 2008.05.23 02:03:47 ] Endeva > while you killing their dread [ 2008.05.23 02:03:55 ] Endeva > they would make a gang [ 2008.05.23 02:03:57 ] Endeva > and fight [ 2008.05.23 02:04:01 ] Redia > they attacked us first and now they cant handle us i mean wtf lolz [ 2008.05.23 02:04:11 ] Endeva > where are u living guys? [ 2008.05.23 02:04:31 ] YelowJack > omist .... [ 2008.05.23 02:04:38 ] Endeva > ah yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:04:42 ] Endeva > i saw you there [ 2008.05.23 02:04:48 ] YelowJack > i saw drug kito some time ago there [ 2008.05.23 02:04:55 ] Endeva > yeh [ 2008.05.23 02:05:03 ] YelowJack > you all croatian? [ 2008.05.23 02:05:08 ] Endeva > not all [ 2008.05.23 02:05:11 ] Endeva > half [ 2008.05.23 02:05:17 ] YelowJack > nice soccer team there [ 2008.05.23 02:05:21 ] YelowJack > not better then brazil tough [ 2008.05.23 02:05:23 ] Endeva > hehe [ 2008.05.23 02:05:25 ] Endeva > thx:) [ 2008.05.23 02:05:28 ] YelowJack > lol [ 2008.05.23 02:05:31 ] Endeva > yeh we are trying [ 2008.05.23 02:06:59 ] Endeva > anyways gtg [ 2008.05.23 02:07:02 ] Endeva > you know who to contaxt [ 2008.05.23 02:07:03 ] YelowJack > well i got you guys in my adressbook ... [ 2008.05.23 02:07:05 ] YelowJack > yep [ 2008.05.23 02:07:06 ] YelowJack > gtg too [ 2008.05.23 02:07:08 ] Redia > ok thx for yer time anyways [ 2008.05.23 02:07:09 ] Drug Kito > o/ [ 2008.05.23 02:07:10 ] Endeva > take care and see ya guys cheers o/ [ 2008.05.23 02:07:14 ] Redia > o7 [ 2008.05.23 02:07:14 ] YelowJack > cya aroun
Moon Kitten GoonFleet	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:43:00 - [89] Edited by: Moon Kitten on 27/05/2008 09:43:59 If an alliance has someone set as hostile do they really have them set as hostile if they never shoot the hostiles?
Mizztres Death Gods Killing Machines ANTHRAX DEATH	Posted - 2008.05.27 09:49:00 - [90] Edited by: Mizztres Death on 27/05/2008 09:49:37 Sorry fella your facts are still not correct as I was never in SMRI which is the holding corp for the alliance so how could I have possibly set and standings ..lol.. you're re1arded you just do not have a clue. Your whole argument has been washed down the toliet you have no clue what u r talking about and it is showing every time you post, so to save fome face please do not post anymore as it isnt doing you any good

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