I'm not angry. Who's angry?

i hate your face!

oh my god, controversy in a game that covers nearly all ages?

sacre bleu!

You ain't much to look at yourself bro.

We might as well demand to be compensated as well as possible for this instead of taking it lying down. Let's go over the ways this could hurt you.

- You trained BSV for the sole purpose of getting a cap. That's at least 30 days of wasted training you will never see back or get use from.
- You trained assault frigates to get HACs. That's about 10 days for the pre-reqs and level 4 AF.
- You trained covops to get recons. Again, 10 days of useless pre-reqs and covops 4.
- You trained a cruiser 5 to be able to fly the CS of that race but had no interest in the cruisers of that race. 20 days wasted SP.
- You trained logistics to be able to fly Fleet CS. Well damn, it won't require that anymore. Wasted SP.

Overall it's a LOT of potential waste to occur and I feel all the affected skills should be zeroed and reimbursed in full. I'm not against change as long as it doesn't set me back. But currently it's shaping up to do just that.

How the **** does that set you back? You still keep all your skills if you trained them. If you choose to not use them, it's your own private personal loss. The guy that trained BSV to get to Capitals...this change will not touch him. With or without the change, he can fly BS's at lvl V and Capitals at whatever level he had.

It's funny how an expansion supposedly encouraging specialisation, sets back those of us who specialised in capital ships by effectively nullifying 30+ days of our training. I could have Fighters 5 by now, but nope, had to train now useless BSV. And of course, that's -ú30 of sub money wasted too.

So what you are saying is that you are not bitching about losing something but you are bitching about other people gaining some? That's some quality character traits you are displaying there, good sir.

Seriously PeopleGǪ

I mean, itGÇÖs all well and good to express an opinion that is constructive, well thought out and logical.. However, the amount of vitriol, rhetoric and plain old GÇÿspoiled childGÇÖ syndrome expressed here is just silly.

It seems like every time CCP attempts to make changes to the game people rage over the littlest little thing and basically say that itGÇÖs their ball and they are going home. I mean, come on. The game has to change and only last summer people were asking CCP to concentrate on the spaceship aspects and now that they are altogether too many people are behaving like spoiled children here.

Overall, the skill tree changes are pretty minor and they are getting rid of the tiers GÇô something that any thinking player knows that needs to be done. There are going to be more viable ships to fly now and the Ray ButtGÇÖs of the game are going to come up with more fleet doctrines GÇô itGÇÖs going to be a good thing. Variety is good GÇô getting rid of the tiers is going to increase the variety of fleet compositions.

The skill tree changes are pretty minor and are logical in their approach. CCP has stated that while they are not sure on the nuts and bolts of the implementation in regards to the skill points, they have stated multiple times that you wonGÇÖt have to skill for ships that you can fly today GÇô so itGÇÖs all good.

So everyone relax and donGÇÖt be so resistant to change. What are we a bunch of cranky 85 year old bitter vets sitting on the porch polishing the shotgun warily watching the neighbourhood kids getting too close to the lawn or what?

So everyone relax and chill. And the ones who refuse to, please do us all a favour and rage about another game in a different forum.

Riedle

20000 people old eve players leave 20000 new players MIGHT play its marketing. Eve can stick with the old game or move on and try to get eve in a better view.... Sorry bad grammar iam not english not even close...

ftfy

Yah sorry

i try again : 20000 people old eve players MIGHT leave 20000 new players MIGHT play its marketing. Eve can stick with the old game or move on and try to get eve in a better view....

50/50

Us old players are safe money. So they can take the yacht and dream vacation, or they can see whats in the box.

I've spotted at least five of the people on this thread claiming to be "mature adults" complaining about these updates...

OP

So "mature Adults" shouldn't complain?

CCP keeps trying to dumb the game down in order to make more money. That effect will likely upset a lot of older gamers who put in the effort only to find it was wasted.
Expecting them not to have an opinion about it in a "discussion forum" is kind of like saying
"Here'e the keys to the car son, but you aren't allowed to drive it, you might do something unsafe...."

Just because they hinted at ship tiers being removed doesn't exonerate the skill changes from being ill-conceived and worthless.

As for ship tiers, CCP has no problems promising you everything and then walking away to chase something else shiny. Wait until you see it.