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Bagoon
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.05.31 21:40:00 -
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Make it to where 1 falcon with one racial jammer can't perma jammer it 100%? Needs sensor strength buff.
No i don't fly them and didn't have a bad experience :) just noticed it.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.01 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bagoon Make it to where 1 falcon with one racial jammer can't perma jammer it 100%? Needs sensor strength buff.
No i don't fly them and didn't have a bad experience :) just noticed it.
It's not a bug, it's intentional. The marauder is the beefiest ship you can get into highsec(Veldnaught and NPC ships aside), so they worked pretty hard to keep their drawbacks high. You'll note that they have the most anemic T2 resists(25%/12.5%) of any T2 ship except the Interceptor, as well. I'm not convinced it was a good decision, but it's the one they made. ------------------ Fix the forums! |
BlondieBC
7th Tribal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.01 05:52:00 -
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Definately a bad decision to have weak resists and sensor strength. With a ship costing this much, it should be practical to use in pvp. I wish CCP would fix. I would LOVE to see them as targets in 0.0.
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Chuck Skull
BBK Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.01 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Chuck Skull on 01/06/2008 09:12:43 Marauders are designed to be the ultimate PVE ship. Hence they have huge tanks, good DPS and the tractor bonus. With some ingenuity they can make great PVP boats. Without the drawbacks, marauders would be overpowered and very hard to kill solo.
A good falcon pilot can jam anything for pretty much as long as he wants anyway, that's what the ship was built for. ---
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CrestoftheStars
Recreation Of The World
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Posted - 2008.06.01 09:37:00 -
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it is NOT a pvp ship so NO..
but the dps on them should be a lot higher they are worse then faction and only as good as t1
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Commoner
Emergent Chaos Bedlam Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.01 09:55:00 -
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Well if u fit 1 ECCM mod, what you've got is basically a buffed Raven.. (Which WILL kick ass). The worst pvp'er in EVE :
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Kagura Nikon
Infinity Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:25:00 -
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Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS" ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
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Sniper Wolf18
Apocalypse Ponies
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Posted - 2008.06.01 11:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
DURRRRRRRRRRRRR?!
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Jason Edwards
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Sniper Wolf18
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
DURRRRRRRRRRRRR?!
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Chuck Skull
BBK Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
Who said eve was a PVP game? Last time I checked it was just one of many things you can do in CCP's little sandbox.
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Valandril
Epic Fail Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: Chuck Skull
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
Who said eve was a PVP game? Last time I checked it was just one of many things you can do in CCP's little sandbox.
Whatever you do, in the end you pvp, just look in bigger picture :D
And not signed in this topic at all, maruders are pve ships, so don't pvp in em. ---
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.06.01 12:32:00 -
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Gotta love T2 BS. You can either jam and not do much damage or tank , or you can tank well while being permajammed.
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Tarron Sarek
Cadien Cybernetics
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Posted - 2008.06.01 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: BlondieBC Definately a bad decision to have weak resists and sensor strength. With a ship costing this much, it should be practical to use in pvp.
Freighter?
Yeah sorry, I know what you mean, but simply wanted to point out the shallow argument.
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Washell Olivaw
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Posted - 2008.06.01 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: Tarron Sarek Freighter?
Yeah sorry, I know what you mean, but simply wanted to point out the shallow argument.
Given the frequent complaints about suicide ganking, freighters are often used in PvP.
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FlameGlow
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.06.01 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
Next time you'll complain mining barges are not good enough in PVP?
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Chuck Skull
BBK Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.01 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Valandril
Originally by: Chuck Skull
Originally by: Kagura Nikon Marauders are joke ships. CCP made all wrong with them. Makign ships good for PVE , ok But make them useless for PVP on a PVP game is a LOOSER idea.
Want to avoid solopownmobuiles? SIMPLE "THIS SHIP CANNOT EQUIP WARP DISRUPTORS"
Who said eve was a PVP game? Last time I checked it was just one of many things you can do in CCP's little sandbox.
Whatever you do, in the end you pvp, just look in bigger picture :D
And not signed in this topic at all, maruders are pve ships, so don't pvp in em.
Dont get me wrong, I love PVP, but it's not the be all and end all of EVE. Saying X must do Y because EVE is about Z just annoys me in general. ---
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Valandril
Epic Fail Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.01 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Washell Olivaw
Originally by: Tarron Sarek Freighter?
Yeah sorry, I know what you mean, but simply wanted to point out the shallow argument.
Given the frequent complaints about suicide ganking, freighters are often used in PvP.
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Bagoon
Mortis Incarnatus
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Posted - 2008.06.01 20:45:00 -
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Quote: Marauder battleships - Optimized for massive damage output to spearhead assaults in enemy territory.
In eve if we wanna talk about the game, combat is 'combat' there isn't "supposed" to be a difference. However, we all know PvE and PvP are two very different play styles. One thing I did leave out of the quote from a dev blog about maraurders was that its has intentionally weak sensor strength so you need to fit an ECCM. I won't go into, eccm kinda blows, but there aren't extra mid slots and you can't fit one in those extra highs either. But should a cruiser (blackbird) with one jammer (that's supposed to be chance bases) have a 100% chance to jam?
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BlondieBC
7th Tribal Legion
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Posted - 2008.06.01 20:56:00 -
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For non-high sec PVE, ad hoc PVP is a part of the game. The ship is much more usable in low sec and null sec, if the resists are boosted, and the sensors stronger. While a tough ship if modified, it is very killable.
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