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Devalis
The Draconis Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.04 22:52:00 -
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Wasn't that the whole point in inviting them? So you could go to I.E.(gamestop) store and get a 3 or 3 without using your info online if you didn't want to.
I don't have a problem with it but like some of my friends do. --_--_-- Playing:eve,NWN2,Supcom,Diablo 2, Xbox 360,Value games, GW, games.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:29:00 -
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...or buy some as a gift for your friend, etc...
well apparently, many players in certain regions of the world don't have access to accepted means of online payment for the CCP subscription. but they can still buy from GTC vendors.
also for many, due to currency exchange rates, etc it seemed to cost less to buy GTC instead of pay the CCP subscription.
and then ofc there is the whole deal about buying GTC with ISK... that sort of created a very interesting marketplace unique to EVE. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
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Leora Nomen
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Leora Nomen on 04/06/2008 23:34:46
because you can get them here without having to get to your car, spending gas, or getting on public transportation, going somewhere, and paying sales tax for purchasing them - you can get them delivered to your email address within 5-10 minutes and i think most people prefer this option
also EVE Store sells actual physical cards if you need them for some reason that they will ship to your home address
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:39:00 -
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The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
Wrangler Community Manager CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
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Schani Kratnorr
x13
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
I can be very convincing, give me a call if you ever decide to use the strongarm approach
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.04 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
I can be very convincing, give me a call if you ever decide to use the strongarm approach
If you throw in some horse heads I just might...
Wrangler Community Manager CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang
"It's not worth doing something unless you are doing something that someone, somewhere, would much rather you weren't doing." |
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Armoured C
Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Schani Kratnorr
Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
I can be very convincing, give me a call if you ever decide to use the strongarm approach
If you throw in some horse heads I just might...
lol
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Devalis
The Draconis Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.05 00:27:00 -
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Haha, yeah true but wasn't the whole point in GTC(when they first came out for other games)Was so you did not have to use an credit card online...but yeah like i sai di don't care ill just pay month to month. --_--_-- Playing:eve,NWN2,Supcom,Diablo 2, Xbox 360,Value games, GW, games.
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Andrue
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Posted - 2008.06.05 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 05/06/2008 06:57:57
Originally by: Leora Nomen Edited by: Leora Nomen on 04/06/2008 23:34:46
because you can get them here without having to get to your car, spending gas, or getting on public transportation, going somewhere, and paying sales tax for purchasing them - you can get them delivered to your email address within 5-10 minutes and i think most people prefer this option
also EVE Store sells actual physical cards if you need them for some reason that they will ship to your home address
Well said. What is it with these threads asking for the return of archaic and pointless shopping expeditions?
What next? Are people going to start asking that Wikipedia publish in paper? Demand that Goggle be converted to microfiche?
FFs, people. It's the bloody 21st century and almost everything can be done online for less cost and more convenience. That's especially true for things that have a purely online value in the first place. -- (Sarcastic mission running veteran, 4+ years)
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.06.05 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
have you tried calling and asking nicely?
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Devalis
The Draconis Combine
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Posted - 2008.06.05 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Andrue Edited by: Andrue on 05/06/2008 06:57:57
Originally by: Leora Nomen Edited by: Leora Nomen on 04/06/2008 23:34:46
because you can get them here without having to get to your car, spending gas, or getting on public transportation, going somewhere, and paying sales tax for purchasing them - you can get them delivered to your email address within 5-10 minutes and i think most people prefer this option
also EVE Store sells actual physical cards if you need them for some reason that they will ship to your home address
Well said. What is it with these threads asking for the return of archaic and pointless shopping expeditions?
What next? Are people going to start asking that Wikipedia publish in paper? Demand that Goggle be converted to microfiche?
FFs, people. It's the bloody 21st century and almost everything can be done online for less cost and more convenience. That's especially true for things that have a purely online value in the first place.
I don't think you see the point in what i was was saying, But yeah date has nothing to do any anything, myself i have never bought one, but like i said i have friends that do. --_--_-- Playing:eve,NWN2,Supcom,Diablo 2, Xbox 360,Value games, GW, games.
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Jana Tanaka
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Posted - 2008.06.05 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
Real men use titans..
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Fist1
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Posted - 2008.06.05 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: Fist1 on 05/06/2008 11:49:19 Edited by: Fist1 on 05/06/2008 11:48:55 the other point of GTC's is to cut down the sell of ISK for real money. which it seems to have done pretty effectively. I never see "buy my ISK" spam except in the recruit channel anymore, and the occasional random eve mail.
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Kaito Neko
Advanced Joint Killing
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:02:00 -
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The mayor problem here is, there are indeed some people that cant use online shopping, to whatever reason they may have. A friend of mine had a trial and would love to play eve, but cant as he simply can buy a GTC where he lives, but he can buy GTC for WoW and therefore he sticks to this one. and no he cant transfer money to me so i buy the code, cause he doesnt even have a bank-account(unbelievable, but a fact.)
so what can those people do?
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CCP Wrangler
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:08:00 -
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Originally by: Kaito Neko The mayor problem here is, there are indeed some people that cant use online shopping, to whatever reason they may have. A friend of mine had a trial and would love to play eve, but cant as he simply can buy a GTC where he lives, but he can buy GTC for WoW and therefore he sticks to this one. and no he cant transfer money to me so i buy the code, cause he doesnt even have a bank-account(unbelievable, but a fact.)
so what can those people do?
We have a lot of online ETC retailers and they offer different payment options so there's that route, we also offer PayByCash which involves various payment options so you can subscribe without a credit card. But if you don't even have a bank account it would be a bit tricky. One option is simply to walk over to the nearest game store and see if they might be willing to stock GTC's, or order GTC's for you.
Wrangler Community Manager CCP Hf, EVE Online Email
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Kaito Neko
Advanced Joint Killing
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Kaito Neko The mayor problem here is, there are indeed some people that cant use online shopping, to whatever reason they may have. A friend of mine had a trial and would love to play eve, but cant as he simply can buy a GTC where he lives, but he can buy GTC for WoW and therefore he sticks to this one. and no he cant transfer money to me so i buy the code, cause he doesnt even have a bank-account(unbelievable, but a fact.)
so what can those people do?
We have a lot of online ETC retailers and they offer different payment options so there's that route, we also offer PayByCash which involves various payment options so you can subscribe without a credit card. But if you don't even have a bank account it would be a bit tricky. One option is simply to walk over to the nearest game store and see if they might be willing to stock GTC's, or order GTC's for you.
I'll tell him to go over there and make an unrefusable offer to the owner of the store, or just to ask kindly :D ___________________________________________________
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Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:15:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Originally by: Kaito Neko The mayor problem here is, there are indeed some people that cant use online shopping, to whatever reason they may have. A friend of mine had a trial and would love to play eve, but cant as he simply can buy a GTC where he lives, but he can buy GTC for WoW and therefore he sticks to this one. and no he cant transfer money to me so i buy the code, cause he doesnt even have a bank-account(unbelievable, but a fact.)
so what can those people do?
We have a lot of online ETC retailers and they offer different payment options so there's that route, we also offer PayByCash which involves various payment options so you can subscribe without a credit card. But if you don't even have a bank account it would be a bit tricky. One option is simply to walk over to the nearest game store and see if they might be willing to stock GTC's, or order GTC's for you.
My experience with most places of retail is if you ask enough, someone will say: "Hey boss, we have people asking for blah blah all the time, we should stock it."
I've done it many times before.
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Kaito Neko
Advanced Joint Killing
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Posted - 2008.06.05 12:17:00 -
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sound like a good idea^^ maybe we can get about 20 people who ask for that stuff once an hour^^ ___________________________________________________
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Nariana Verex
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.06.05 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Wrangler The stores have to choose to stock them, we can't exactly show up with some muscle and give them an offer they can't refuse.
I remember about three years ago, when I was manager of a game store in Edmonton, I contacted CCP about stocking EVE Online timecards. The email I received told me that though there wasn't a position available at CCP at the moment, they would consider me for future employment.
Wat? Some muscle might have been nice. ;)
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Gold Rogers
Personal Vendetta Vendetta Alliance.
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Posted - 2008.06.05 14:10:00 -
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Edited by: Gold Rogers on 05/06/2008 15:49:04
Originally by: Kaito Neko The mayor problem here is, there are indeed some people that cant use online shopping, to whatever reason they may have. A friend of mine had a trial and would love to play eve, but cant as he simply can buy a GTC where he lives, but he can buy GTC for WoW and therefore he sticks to this one. and no he cant transfer money to me so i buy the code, cause he doesnt even have a bank-account(unbelievable, but a fact.)
so what can those people do?
If you live in the Uk, you can use Ukash, which involves going into a shop that has a paypoint (Most newsagents seem to have these), buying some Ukash which is a code that you then enter online in the paybycash options. ---------
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Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.05 14:24:00 -
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With the new changes to GTC's, there is no point to them now at all.
Except as a RMT instrument by which CCP makes more money than before off those who sell them for ISK.
Honestly CCP should just drop the charade and start selling ISK directly and ban GTC sales for ISK so that they can be used for those who actually want to buy them to use not to sell.
There is ZERO difference between what CCP is doing and what the farmers do, both sales of GTC's for ISK and sales of farmed ISK for real money are the same thing and have the same effects. The only difference is who makes the money.
What CCP is doing here is no less hypocritical than what governments are doing with smoking bans and high tobacco taxes. If it's true that tobacco (RMT) is bad for the health of those who use it (the EVE economy) then BAN it completely. But no, there is too much money to be made off it...
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Furb Killer
The Peacekeeper Core
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Posted - 2008.06.05 14:28:00 -
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Obvious fail is obvious.
Dont talk about stuff you dont understand jakke.
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:08:00 -
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They're sold everywhere the EVE CCG is.
(read: nowhere I've ever seen)
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Jakke Logan
F Off And Die
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Posted - 2008.06.05 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jakke Logan on 05/06/2008 15:14:53
Originally by: Furb Killer Obvious fail is obvious.
Dont talk about stuff you dont understand jakke.
All I'm asking for is consistency. RMT is either game destroying or it's not. If it's game destroying it is then equally so whether it's CCP or the Chinese collecting the Real Money.
Either ban it completely or allow it completely. To do neither is hypocrisy.
Personally I don't like RMT at all. I do think that GTC for ISK sales inflate prices just as the farmers do. I'd like to see it done away with, or done the way SOE did with EQ2 (me saying SOE did something right for once? gasp!) in limiting it to an alternate server ONLY.
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Alora Venoda
GalTech Giant Space Amoeba
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Posted - 2008.06.05 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jakke Logan Edited by: Jakke Logan on 05/06/2008 15:14:53
Originally by: Furb Killer Obvious fail is obvious.
Dont talk about stuff you dont understand jakke.
All I'm asking for is consistency. RMT is either game destroying or it's not. If it's game destroying it is then equally so whether it's CCP or the Chinese collecting the Real Money.
Either ban it completely or allow it completely. To do neither is hypocrisy.
Personally I don't like RMT at all. I do think that GTC for ISK sales inflate prices just as the farmers do. I'd like to see it done away with, or done the way SOE did with EQ2 (me saying SOE did something right for once? gasp!) in limiting it to an alternate server ONLY.
trading a GTC for ISK is NOT RMT. there is no way to turn ISK into real cash via the CCP supported GTC trade system. you can ONLY use it to turn ISK into more time on your account. ofc for those that "buy ISK" via GTC trade are pretty much doing the same thing they would for an RMT ISK seller - except not exactly since they are using a GTC to buy the ISK, not direct cash.
basically, those RMT farmers have no reason to use this system as a means to make real life profits... because they CAN'T without breaking the EULA, which they were already doing using the old method. however, they will probably opt towards buying GTC's with ISK to support their accounts if it saves money for them overall. ~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~ Take away the risk and it would make flying around in space utterly pointless.
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Nielas
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Posted - 2008.06.05 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jakke Logan Edited by: Jakke Logan on 05/06/2008 15:14:53
Originally by: Furb Killer Obvious fail is obvious.
Dont talk about stuff you dont understand jakke.
All I'm asking for is consistency. RMT is either game destroying or it's not. If it's game destroying it is then equally so whether it's CCP or the Chinese collecting the Real Money.
Either ban it completely or allow it completely. To do neither is hypocrisy.
Personally I don't like RMT at all. I do think that GTC for ISK sales inflate prices just as the farmers do. I'd like to see it done away with, or done the way SOE did with EQ2 (me saying SOE did something right for once? gasp!) in limiting it to an alternate server ONLY.
Obviously EVE has decided that RMT is not 'game-destroying' if the ISK farming is done by non-professionals. At the same time it has decided that directly selling ISK for cash by CCP is not desirable for a variety of reasons. The GTC-for-ISK system allows them to stay away from direct ISK sales and severly limits the amount of ISK available for sale.
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D'sania
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: D''sania on 08/06/2008 15:20:00
Originally by: Leora Nomen Edited by: Leora Nomen on 04/06/2008 23:34:46
because you can get them here without having to get to your car, spending gas, or getting on public transportation, going somewhere, and paying sales tax for purchasing them - you can get them delivered to your email address within 5-10 minutes and i think most people prefer this option
Shattered Crystal?5-10 minutes? no way in hell. I tried that with them. At least 2 work days becouse they first need scans of card, after that they need scan of passport,after that they say they need scan of _international_ passport,etc.
And same card works without problems with CCP(when I use it, i usually buy GTCs for my own char for RL money via local site, without problems). p.s.And currently
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Bethesda Vortarhiat
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Posted - 2008.06.08 15:19:00 -
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Originally by: D'sania
Originally by: Leora Nomen Edited by: Leora Nomen on 04/06/2008 23:34:46
because you can get them here without having to get to your car, spending gas, or getting on public transportation, going somewhere, and paying sales tax for purchasing them - you can get them delivered to your email address within 5-10 minutes and i think most people prefer this option
Shattered Crystal?5-10 minutes? no way in hell. I tried that with them. At least 2 work days becouse they first need scans of card, after that they need scan of passport,after that they say they need scan of _international_ passport,etc.
And same card works without problems with CCP
They be sellin' your idenity on eBay :P
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