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fuze
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Posted - 2008.06.12 13:00:00 -
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After giving this a long thought I just started to wonder if Jade seems to realize that he has a huge responsibility on his shoulders representing all those who voted for him. And same goes for the rest of the CSM. You all have to learn to work together and really think about improving Eve by representing the views of the players.
As CSM, your actions have RL consequences with possible influence of jobs at CCP. Think about it. |
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Posted - 2008.06.12 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jade Constantine I'd like to see more people actively trying to understand the process at work here since it would render the apparent motivation behind a lot of these threads void and let us see more important Issues getting the air time they deserve.
You think this isn't important?
If CSM wouldn't be able to get their act together all issues wouldn't get handled properly. You don't have to agree or even like each other. Just that you accept your responsibility to give this your utmost best to make it work. That applies to all members. That you owe to all the people that voted for you. |
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Posted - 2008.06.13 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Courthouse EDIT: ...and he didn't even do that. A quorum of 7 is not a quorum of 9 as the CSM document states is needed.
Didn't see Serenity either so guess that was a quorum of 6.
But that meeting went way smoother. So next step would be a smooth meeting with all 9 members.
And to the goons. Tone down and wait how things pan out for a few meetings since CSM actually might have taken the clue not to slip up again. |
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:31:00 -
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Goon teaching me math? Oh noes, the sky is falling!
I did read. Before my 1st cup of java that is. My bad. Please except my most humble apologies.
And you're right. The 2 representatives missing part could use some moar explanation.
Btw I still think goons should tone down a bit. Even though they don't like Jade its the voters who make it he deserves a decent chance of making this work. (And I sure am not one of them btw) |
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Posted - 2008.06.13 14:43:00 -
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So the meeting of 7 euros was approved by CCP standards. But what about the 2 US ones? Will there be meetings of 7 all the time? I'm just asking since this might goons worked up a bit which I think isn't all too strange. Also could be some private stuff we don't have to know. Anywayz..... |
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Posted - 2008.06.13 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Darius JOHNSON See: Meeting #2. This has already been accomplished. The ongoing drama were a direct result of actions taken, not of an inability for people to get along.
I beg to differ. Anyway I agree Jade was involved in several welp moments. But the way some others reacted wasn't top notch either. Guess what, people frack up sometimes.
For the sake of it lets assume Jade learned something useful. And I do hope the next meeting will include all members. You don't have to like or even trust each other. As long if you work through the agenda and do your work its OK. Just remember that there are many people watching over your shoulders. |
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:48:00 -
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Jade continues to show his unprofessionalism and is letting down all his voters IMHO. You should step down, let the vice take your place and shut the heck up.
And if you continue to be such a pigheaded person it would make sense for the CSM to have meetings with 8 people.
Honestly, you make me sick for trying to ruin the first CSM because of your own petty ego and I wished CCP never unbanned your sorry behind. |
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Posted - 2008.06.15 12:11:00 -
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Originally by: d'hofren Forum bans use to be issued after a set number of warnings. Warnings did not expire over time. The longer a person participated on the the eve-o forums the more likely they were to rack up the warnings and thus be subjected to an infinite time ban.
Keep digging. Jade went emo on COAD a few times and it seems people forgot about that. Mr Ego doesn't like to be contradicted. It was self destructive back then and it is now. |
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Posted - 2008.06.15 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: SocialPolice EVE would be better without you.
Originally by: SocialPolice Personally I think the whole CSM should be dissolved and scrapped.
Why bother? Just go back to WoW. |
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Posted - 2008.06.17 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Seriously, a thread full of people voting against democracy is all to odd for me to grasp.
Seriously, did you read any of those meeting reports? #3 is a real stunner ya know.
If you think this is about in game politics you're missing the point.
I do agree on the democracy part but Jade didn't get voted to bloat his ego some more. He got voted to be a CSM chairman and failing to fulfill that role badly. Especially at the failing to acknowledge your own mistakes part. If you're not willing to be reasonable its impossible to work together as a team.
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Posted - 2008.06.17 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: fuze
I do agree on the democracy part but Jade didn't get voted to bloat his ego some more. He got voted to be a CSM chairman and failing to fulfill that role badly.
Well, that is the other-side of democracy, innit? You can't un-vote people just because they don't turn out how you wanted.
Yes you can. CSM are still subjected to rules and regulations. And CSM with 8 votees still can put up legitimate issues to CCP.
Besides the rule of who will be chairman isn't set in stone. It could be rotated or be elected by the quorum itself. |
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