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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:08:00 -
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This isn't a BoB issue.
It is a BNC issue, anybody who knows ANYTHING about how we operate, will know that the alliance does not involve itself on the internal workings of the corps. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 13:22:00 -
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Nice try both dekard and Lrrp, but you're both factually wrong in that, the titan Shrike sits in, is one that was built by evolution.
The one that Heg lent him, was returned to BNC.
It (the titan heg built) is now flown, controlled and owned by Black Nova Corp.
Ergo, it's completely, 100%, a BNC issue - no one else in BoB has any say or input to it.
Reading the posts in this thread would have saved you looking ignorant. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
Originally by: DeckardIRL
Originally by: Dianabolic Nice try both dekard and Lrrp, but you're both factually wrong in that, the titan Shrike sits in, is one that was built by evolution.
The one that Heg lent him, was returned to BNC.
It (the titan heg built) is now flown, controlled and owned by Black Nova Corp.
Ergo, it's completely, 100%, a BNC issue - no one else in BoB has any say or input to it.
Reading the posts in this thread would have saved you looking ignorant.
Thats not what I said Dianabolic... I did not state that Shrike currently was not in anything other than the Avatar built by Evol.
Molle borrowed a personal Titan not a Corp owned Titan....
Deck
Uh oh seems he got you Dian
- Gob
I'd agree with you if it were true!
Problem is, Deckard (and lrrp) are saying that Molle has anything to do with this. He doesn't. The agreement to borrow a titan was between Heg and BNC as soon as Molle returned that titan to BNC.
So no, both of them are trying to confuse the issue. Facts are:
The titan hege built, is in BNC corp hangars. EVOL kept their end of the bargain and anything that goes on with that titan now, I repeat, is between BNC and whoever. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: Dianabolic This isn't a BoB issue.
It is a BNC issue, anybody who knows ANYTHING about how we operate, will know that the alliance does not involve itself on the internal workings of the corps.
Anyone knows that you always try to look good in any given situation. Fact remains that if Molle didn't lose his Titan he wouldn't have to loan another one. And thats why he should intervene and make things right again. This just doesn't look Coranor look bad but also BNC and the rest of Bob. Then again if you touted to be such honorable brethren all along and do nothing about internal corp theft it doesn't surprise the general public that your pretty much full of it. Because we knew this all along so its nothing new. Any Bob will rob their corp mates blind if the opportunity arises. When is just a matter of time.
Look at how stupid you are. Funny, we regularly loan out billions of isk worth of assets. Regularly give billions in cash to people for market projects and other such schemes, yet the money always comes back.
I guess if that's what you think constitutes:
Quote: Any Bob will rob their corp mates blind if the opportunity arises. When is just a matter of time.
Then pass the pipe amigo! Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Lrrp
Originally by: Dianabolic
Problem is, Deckard (and lrrp) are saying that Molle has anything to do with this. He doesn't. The agreement to borrow a titan was between Heg and BNC as soon as Molle returned that titan to BNC.
Are you saying when Molle agree'd to borrow Heg's Titan, that the agreement was Molle could return it to either BNC or directly to Heg? If so then you have a case.
Molle DID return the titan to Heg. Heg then gave the ship to BNC, because afaik he was leaving the game.
Hope that clears it up for you. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 14:53:00 -
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That's because I don't see the forums very much, Deckard. Today is a slow day though, wewt saturdays and all that.
I don't quite get what you mean with your comment though, are you trying to say that because we're in an alliance that operates in this way we don't talk to each other? I speak to Hege, too, I still speak to him, I've spoken to him today, what would you like to deduce from that? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram So why don't the Titan come back? If you guys are throwing around iskies like crazy it shouldn't be a problem. The promise to him of getting it back eventually can be voided because of some lame excuses?
Oh wait, you're talking about bnc now, I could have sworn you said "any bob member".
My bad! Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: DeckardIRL What I am saying is that you keep saying its internal BNC. Yet you are RKK (yes BoB Head Diplo also) but you are posting alot on this topic... alot
I don't think that you would be posting as much but because it is an embarrassment that a BoB CEO is accussed of theft, Molle has been implicated and people have alot of regard for Hegemon Rast.
Deck
It ain't an embaressment, it's a slow day (I've said this once but hey!) and I believe that there are no current posting restrictions to anybody in bob, so I shall post on what I like, where I like, I guess everybody else is outside in the sunshine whilst I drink lager and ***** forums.
go me!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:15:00 -
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And to be fair guys, the clues to all of this from Hege's point of view is in the OP and in the thread title.
He holds Coranor responsible, rightly or wrongly, not molle, no one else bu Coranor.
So all your fishing and twisting and spinning to make this a "BoB" issue is all pretty pointless, no? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega ITT Dianabolic's posts represent 50% of the thread,... to say he doesn't care.
I never said I didn't care, Omeega, so don't put words in my mouth ta. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: TTIGER who did give titan to BNC? Molle
Who said to give titan to BNC? Hegemon.
Try again. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bookmarking Wench So Hegemon Rast is one of the reasons that T2 Cap rechargers were 20mil + each? &%$# you then buddy!
Actually he didn't get his t2 cap recharger bpo (from the lottery) until a few weeks before invention was introduced.
So he ain't guilty of that. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Astasia Orian The next act of the junta is to have Dian sent to posting reeducation camp. Jeez Dian :(
Is it taught by a girl called Stella? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0 In RKK there seems to have been several instances that we don't know fully what were about. DmZ admitting that he had passed on intel straight from CCP and causing a fuss because he wasn't brought in on other CCP secrets other RKK directors had. That corp certainly seems extremely rotten and run by bad sports.
Third very public case is the moron calling GM's through MSN to do their bidding.
It's atleast 3 proven cases imho now and there's probably more because the nature of these is that we only know if you guys **** up extremely badly and ccp fail in their cover-up. Something that's verifiably happened these 3 times.
Look how stupid you are.
A question for Crucifier, I notice you get more bitter every time you change corp, do you think that eventually you'll just turn in to a lemon, or will you just go sour? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Crucifier
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Fred0 In RKK there seems to have been several instances that we don't know fully what were about. DmZ admitting that he had passed on intel straight from CCP and causing a fuss because he wasn't brought in on other CCP secrets other RKK directors had. That corp certainly seems extremely rotten and run by bad sports.
Third very public case is the moron calling GM's through MSN to do their bidding.
It's atleast 3 proven cases imho now and there's probably more because the nature of these is that we only know if you guys **** up extremely badly and ccp fail in their cover-up. Something that's verifiably happened these 3 times.
Look how stupid you are.
A question for Crucifier, I notice you get more bitter every time you change corp, do you think that eventually you'll just turn in to a lemon, or will you just go sour?
I like lemons, i'll go with that option
Fair play man, it goes well with a bit of coke Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.14 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Except you're wrong. The story behind that particular gem is a bug had leaked through a GM within BoB and they'd used it to shoot through POS shields on a number of occations. This was before desyncing was a common as it later became and infact, to claim their whole fleet was desynced is simply laughable.
Proof or stfu.
Otherwise, man, look at how stupid you are? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 07:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kruntologist
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr Except you're wrong. The story behind that particular gem is a bug had leaked through a GM within BoB and they'd used it to shoot through POS shields on a number of occations. This was before desyncing was a common as it later became and infact, to claim their whole fleet was desynced is simply laughable.
Proof or stfu.
Otherwise, man, look at how stupid you are?
Actually it had to do with using passive targeters being able to target through PoS shields. There was even a bugfix in a patch not long after the whole incident (pre-t20 fiasco, IIRC).
How does it go? Oh that's right..
Man, look at how stupid you are?
No, honestly, LOOK at how stupid you are. We have never, ever, ever, used passive targetters on fleet ships.
Ever.
LOL, what a complete waste of a mid-slot, passive targetters?
hahahahahahahahahahahahah Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: MynChu NicAtoch
Originally by: Yaay If i want to go back to BoB, I'll ask dian for my old job back... I could care less about bob recruiting, i just share a lot of respect for them.
You'd better hope Coranor doesn't have a say in that! His rant about you on the Burn Eden TS last patch surprised a lot of us who had flown with you.
Yaay is an RKK pilot. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Dianabolic
Proof or stfu.
Again? really?
Yes, really, it never gets old. And as you're so eager to present it I guess you you've got it right to hand.
So, let's see it. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Etho Demerzel
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Dianabolic
Proof or stfu.
Again? really?
Yes, really, it never gets old. And as you're so eager to present it I guess you you've got it right to hand.
So, let's see it.
Man, last time your exploits were exposed, you were forced to fight without them and lost 2/3 of your territory. Believe me, you don't want it to happen again now, you can hardly afford to have to play fairly and lose what you have left...
So you don't have the proof then? Because I know Phrixus said he had it and, well, we've asked to see it - hey, if that means we get the failtrain back on our doorstep trying to take our space, let's have it, because honestly? Given the choice? I don't wanna travel to get a fight and our space, now, is more heavily fortified than it was the first time a far bigger coalition than could be put together today tried to take it.
So yep, let's have it - or are you a "fur coat and no knickers" man? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.15 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: Tomic
Originally by: Dianabolic Look how stupid you are.
It's kinda funny that all you are doing by repeating this phrase is making yourself look stupid. Don't expect people to believe the rubbish you're posting just because you insult the person you're replying to. I remember the good old days when Bob spin was at least relatively good at damage control, shame you now resort to school yard style arguing in an attempt to get your point across. I think the only possible response to this is to say(in an ironic way) "I know you are, but what am I".
A spade is a spade, is this the bit where I ask "what does that make you?"? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.17 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dianabolic on 17/06/2008 18:22:31 /me checks to see that Ghaelesto is still frothing at the mouth... yep.
/me lol's and goes to watch the football, I'll check back again soon, keep frothing! Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.17 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stevens
Originally by: Avon The problem here is that Hege isn't giving you the full story, and if anyone in BNC told you the truth it would get spun as damage control. The truth is irrelevent, you are all just going to believe what you want.
If you could be bothered however, it isn't hard to find stuff on the internet which may make you look at the issue in a different light.
Hegemon, I'm dissapointed. I really liked you.
The age old arguement of "You're wrong, but I'm not going to tell you why. Also you are stupid because you're basing opinions on information available"
What do you have to lose by providing your side of the story. If everyone already made up their minds you can at least laugh at us for being wrong with all information present instead of just wrong because we only know what we know.
It's like saying 1+x= ? and we say it equals 2. Then you say we are wrong because we don't know what x is and won't tell us. The argument makes you look even worse.
Except, you guys have ignored them when they tried. What Avon is saying is true, any further "side(s)" of the story merely feeds "your" desire for trollbait and forum pron.
Hence why it isn't going to continue :) Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.19 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/06/2008 12:37:11
Originally by: Don Z0LA
Originally by: Ariko Gunaris Interesting. I guess the eBay stuff was true.
its not, he deleted his chars, after he gave his assets to his friends and some motherships to dianabolic afaik.
And with Hegemon no longer being on BOB's IRC channel where dianabolic was one of those spreading the story that he was ebaying all his isk.
No surprise there either.
Myn
You're a lieing****got, Mynas, but no surprise there.
Funnily enough, I still speak to Hege, he even gave me some of his stuff.
You really are awesome at making yourself look stupid.
And bitter. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.06.19 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/06/2008 14:32:45 Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/06/2008 14:31:44
Originally by: Dianabolic You're a lieing****got, Mynas, but no surprise there.
Funnily enough, I still speak to Hege, he even gave me some of his stuff.
Yes .. him giving you some of his gear despite what you were saying in defence of BNC's current leaders is what makes it so funny. You didn't REALLY think you could recruit so many ex-MC members in recent months NOT leak like a sieve when you or Jake Noble get caught in duplicity. ROFL
Proof or stfu mate, tyvm :) Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.06.19 14:53:00 -
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I tell you what, Mynas, why don't you show Blacklight.
Or hell, Don Zola would be quite fine aswell as far as I am concerned, unlike yourself he actually has some credibility. Timestamps aren't worth a damn though, because unless I can see where the logs are to show anything you may have "missed out", which is your style, anything you show is useless.
So, really, you may as well just post it here. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.06.19 19:43:00 -
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I'm actually lol'ing at this latest drama :D Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:05:00 -
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I think I'm gonna thank Hege for making this thread, the irony is just dripping off every post, from all sides, it's hilarious :D
"griefing out of game".
hahaaha! Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/06/2008 23:10:09
Originally by: Dianabolic I think I'm gonna thank Hege for making this thread, the irony is just dripping off every post, from all sides, it's hilarious :D
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hahaaha!
Says the guy who only a few days ago was repeating the allegations as if they were The Truth to show why it was none of RKK's business and how BNC directors stealing the Titan was fair and just.
And yet here you are failing to present the logs you claim to have.
Put up or shut up failboat kipper tin. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: Mynas Atoch Edited by: Mynas Atoch on 19/06/2008 23:24:49
Originally by: Siddy This looks bad for mynas, you meanies ganging upon him!
Here, ill help you myn, ill post you some logs from BoB forest's of secrits!
Hehe. Diana and I both know he only has to look at his own irc chatlogs to find the answers he seeks. That he is asking me for the logs tells me he said it more than once and is trying to pin down which instance(s) I have.
I've got my logs, Mynas, you're absolutely right, I just wanna see how you try to spin me being open and honest with my corp as "repeating the accusations". Me posting my own logs would be a bit defeatist, seeing as you're the one that claims you have them of doing it, don'tcha think?
As an aside, how DO you spike irc logs from someones own LOCAL logs, I'm intrigued? Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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