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notaway
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.16 13:46:00 -
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high security then can all the corp members come to the defense of the one I attack? Or will concord strike down the ones I don't engage that come to help the corp membar against whom I have kill rights?
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Gartel Reiman
Civis Romanus Sum
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Posted - 2008.06.16 14:45:00 -
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Heh, good old vague flagging system.
The other members of the corp will not be able to shoot you unless you are flagged to them. If you fire at them first then they will definitely be flagged to you, so be careful with drones, AoE weapons (which you shouldn't be using in high-sec anyway), locking multiple targets etc.
Now, the question as it stands is whether if you shoot player P, whether players Q and R who are in the same corp and fleet get the option to return fire. I have always thought the answer to this was "no, they have to just sit there and/or remote rep", and I'm sure several other people on this board would agree with me. However, the KB article, while it doesn't mention anything about kill rights, has the following to say: Quote: Player A attacks Player B who has security status of -5.0 or lower = Player A gets aggression flagged to Player B's corporation.
Of the examples they give there, someone who is an outlaw is probably the closest to the situation of having kill rights on someone.
So basically what I'm saying is I'm not sure. However, I'm trying to convey that there has been a bit of confusion on this recently with articles contradicting each other and other peoples' long-term experience - and it does seem like there may have been a change of late. I wouldn't put much faith in any affirmative answer unless it's based on empirical testing within the last month or two, is all.
And if you had to push me for an answer - I still think the KB is wrong, and that in this situation the corpmates couldn't retaliate against you. But stick with my disclaimer.
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Matalino
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 16/06/2008 15:00:13 Just to be clear on the terms you are using.
Kill Right = the one-time right to kill a player's ship granted because they killed one of your ships without you fighting back, valid for 30 days from when your ship was destroyed.
Flagged = the right to shoot at a player because of an agressive action that they have taken, valid for 15 minutes from the last act of agression.
I expect that you are asking about flagging as opposed to kill rights. If you are asking about kill rights, the answer is that they do not transfer to anyone else, it is strictly between you can the person who killed you. As soon as you attempt to cache in on your Kill Right, the flagging system takes over.
As for flagging, most of the time, flagging is between individuals, not corps. The common exception being the flag for can theft, as steeling from a corp can will flag you against the entire corp.
Shooting someone will flag you so that they can shoot back. It will not flag you to that person's corp, just to the person you shot.
So if you attack someone legitimately in empire space, his corp-mates will be flagged for CONCORD attention if they shoot you without you shooting them first.
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notaway
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:26:00 -
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NO I am talking about Kill Rights--I have already killed one of the ships of the ppl in the corp and his name has gone off the kill rights list--I have until July 5---so it seems that even if I engage one of the ppl and IF the others cannot join in, they can still give aid indirectly by providing remote cap etc to him if they are around
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Matalino
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:38:00 -
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As far as I know, there is no way for Kill Rights to be transfered or otherwise applied to anyone else. Kill Rights have no direct involvement in flagging. It is you shooting at the person you have Kill Rights for that gives them the right to shoot back, and the right to shoot back is non-transferable. His corp mates don't get the right to shoot you until you shoot them specificly. Quote: Player A attacks Player B who has security status of -5.0 or lower = Player A gets aggression flagged to Player B's corporation.
Although I have not tested this myself, I understood that this was an error in the KB artical: that Player A would only be flagged to Player B, not to Player B's corp.
Beware that while they can't shoot you, they can remote rep their buddy, and often that is all that is needed to swing the battle in their favor.
If you want a more definitive answer, you will need to verify it by testing it yourself on the test server, or by filing a petition.
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notaway
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.16 15:47:00 -
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Yes--it's a good thing I did not engage one of them because the other two present would certainly have remote repped the one I engaged...It was also good info about being careful when engaging drones as they could be those of one the the other corp members.. Thanks for the answers...
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Serenity Steele
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Posted - 2008.06.16 20:43:00 -
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On another note: The CSM has raised the ability to Transfer Kill rights as an issue to CCP to look into providing the game mechanic. Will be interest to see what CCP do.
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