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Blacq Rain
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Posted - 2008.06.19 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Blacq Rain on 19/06/2008 02:39:22 I have had an epiphany. I do not believe in slavery..I do not believe in the "god" that has been shoved down my(and every other) amarrian's throat; I throw off my own chains of slavery, to the empire, to religious dogma, the panacea for the masses; No more will I exist under it's oppressive heel. I am free.
That is not all, I wish to see the matar finally enjoy complete freedom from amarrian tyranny. To that end, I have joined The RSS. Hopefully, once I've gained the trust of the RSS and the minmatar nation, I will be allowed to join the front lines in their fight for freedom. Until then, know, amarr, I stand against thee. I work in the shadows; You'll not see me coming, and you'll only know the cold of space as I destroy your ship and penetrate your pods, leaving you gasping for air in the non-existant vacuum of space. I will bring to you the terror and pain you have brought to the matar...and I will enjoy it.
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Xzar Fyrarr
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2008.06.19 02:39:00 -
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Who?
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BloodBird
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.19 02:56:00 -
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No, wrong. You are not a traitor, but a seperatist, a rebel to your former empire.
A traitor is one who willingly attempts to disrupt or harm one's faction or whoever one has sworn loyalty to WHILE STILL PROFESSING TO BE LOYAL to said faction.
By declaring your lack of interest in Amarrian religion or the practice of slavery, you are effectively defecting to the Minmatars, or whoever you chose to serve. By making this post, you are alerting your ex-faction of your feelings and actions, thus you simply can't be a traitor.
I think the loyalists will claim otherwise though.
Best of luck in your future endeavors, that is, unless you plan on targeting and hurting amarr civilian properties. As long as you keep to aiding the matari in their struggle to free their kin, I will wish you luck.
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Blankete
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.19 03:09:00 -
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It saddens me greatly that we must take arms against the peoples of the Empire. Every citizen of the Empire is precious, thus it is a great shame we must scorch the flesh from the bones of those who refuse to bow down and accept as truth the enlightenment we bring. By their deaths, they deny themselves the liberation that is only to be found in total surrender to the Amarr cause.
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Blacq Rain
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Posted - 2008.06.19 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird No, wrong. You are not a traitor, but a seperatist, a rebel to your former empire.
A traitor is one who willingly attempts to disrupt or harm one's faction or whoever one has sworn loyalty to WHILE STILL PROFESSING TO BE LOYAL to said faction.
By declaring your lack of interest in Amarrian religion or the practice of slavery, you are effectively defecting to the Minmatars, or whoever you chose to serve. By making this post, you are alerting your ex-faction of your feelings and actions, thus you simply can't be a traitor.
I think the loyalists will claim otherwise though.
Best of luck in your future endeavors, that is, unless you plan on targeting and hurting amarr civilian properties. As long as you keep to aiding the matari in their struggle to free their kin, I will wish you luck.
(OOC) Thanks for that, I'm not much of an RP'er, thought I'd give it a whirl :)
(IC) thanks-the loyalists WILL brand me traitor anyway...and no, I would not harm a hair on a civilian's head. I fight for freedom; I am not a murderer.
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Micia
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.19 03:41:00 -
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Good luck with the RSS.
When you're ready there's also the Tribal Liberation Force, where you can really make a difference on the battlefield.
The struggle for liberation and the pursuit of vengeance is not always easy; know that you never fly alone. |
rValdez5987
32nd Amarrian Imperial Navy Regiment
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Posted - 2008.06.19 04:21:00 -
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Quote: It saddens me greatly that we must take arms against the peoples of the Empire. Every citizen of the Empire is precious, thus it is a great shame we must scorch the flesh from the bones of those who refuse to bow down and accept as truth the enlightenment we bring. By their deaths, they deny themselves the liberation that is only to be found in total surrender to the Amarr cause.
Well spoken. Indeed it is sad, but through the reclaiming they will be saved. May god have mercy on their souls.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2008.06.19 08:06:00 -
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Originally by: Blankete It saddens me greatly that we must take arms against the peoples of the Empire. Every citizen of the Empire is precious, thus it is a great shame we must scorch the flesh from the bones of those who refuse to bow down and accept as truth the enlightenment we bring. By their deaths, they deny themselves the liberation that is only to be found in total surrender to the Amarr cause.
This makes two very dangerous assumptions:
a. That Amarr who defect are still "peoples of the Empire" b. That you're going to kill them. -----
CEO, Mixed Metaphor Dance Commander
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AltBier
Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.19 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Blacq Rain I do not believe in slavery.
Another Amarr renounces slavery! This is reason to rejoice!
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Jagadeishan
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Posted - 2008.06.19 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: AltBier
Originally by: Blacq Rain I do not believe in slavery.
Another Amarr renounces slavery! This is reason to rejoice!
Meh...he is probably an infiltrator trained by Amarrian intelligence services. The republican should take his words with a ton of salt!
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Blacq Rain
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Posted - 2008.06.19 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jagadeishan
Originally by: AltBier
Originally by: Blacq Rain I do not believe in slavery.
Another Amarr renounces slavery! This is reason to rejoice!
Meh...he is probably an infiltrator trained by Amarrian intelligence services. The republican should take his words with a ton of salt!
Well, this sentiment is to be expected..I will simply have to prove myself with my deeds; Indeed, that is the only way to know if someone's heart is true. watch what I do...
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AltBier
Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.19 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jagadeishan Meh...he is probably an infiltrator trained by Amarrian intelligence services. The republican should take his words with a ton of salt!
There are many Amarr who are actively fighting against slavery.
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:19:00 -
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Another Amarrian opens his eyes and truly sees his culture for what it is. Welcome to humanity, Blacq Rain!
-- Becq Starforged
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BloodBird
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.06.19 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged Another Amarrian opens his eyes and truly sees his culture for what it is. Welcome to humanity, Blacq Rain!
Hinting that the Amarr is inhuman is not something you want to do Mr. Starforged. After all, it's been nearly standard for the most hardlined of Amarr to reffer to anyone not amarrian as a sub-human, a barbarian, animal, or whatever they please at the time. If you seek to be so much better, falling into their habbits will not help really.
On the other hand, to me, Amarrian society is a facinating, though vastly diffrent system of governing their people. As a result, I find little that is all-out 'wrong' with their cultural ideas, their belief or their metods of government. Except, ofcourse, for the issue on slavery. I could go on and on about that but I can't be bothered with it, not right now.
Suffice to say, that while I would not live under it (I know other societies I feel work better) the Amarrian feudal system is an interesting one that works for the Amarr. Now, if they would just renounce slavery and free anyone that wished to leave, all would be fine, at least in my eyes. Ofcourse, a renouncing of slavery would also require a total end to the idea of 'reclaiming' anything at all that don't allready belong to them.
Convincing the Amarr of this however, is the bigger problem.
Though I suspect you believe you have methods that work. Just tell me Mr. Starforged - If the Amarr agreed to liberate every single slave in the Empire, deliver them safely with a vitoc cure, halt their reclaiming ideas and fully renounce the Slave system, would you leave them alone? Would you stop hurting them?
Would the war end?
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Parsor Evarkis
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.06.20 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: BloodBird Though I suspect you believe you have methods that work. Just tell me Mr. Starforged - If the Amarr agreed to liberate every single slave in the Empire, deliver them safely with a vitoc cure, halt their reclaiming ideas and fully renounce the Slave system, would you leave them alone? Would you stop hurting them?
Would the war end?
Would the war end? A big question, which war are you referring to? But in the unlikely event of the Amarr releasing all slaves and abandoning their reclaiming Ushra'Khan's war against the Empire would most likely be at an end. As for individual pilots? Would it absolve every pilot's grievances with the Amarr? you will have to ask each pilot, I for one would no longer fight the Empire if this were the case (unless they came up with some new evil against our people)
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AltBier
Freelance Unincorporated
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Posted - 2008.06.20 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: AltBier on 20/06/2008 08:44:18
Personally, if slavery were outlawed in the empire, then for me the war against the slavers would naturally be over - as I also indicated in another transmission.
That is assuming, of course, that the empire loyalists still respected empire law and also stopped their latest attacks on minmatar space.
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Blacq Rain
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Posted - 2008.06.20 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Becq Starforged Another Amarrian opens his eyes and truly sees his culture for what it is. Welcome to humanity, Blacq Rain!
Thanks; being welcomed, as I find my new, separate path is more appreciated than you know...now, I'm training, growing stronger..soon the time will come when I can strike back at those who would enslave others...and their enablers...
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Aria Jenneth
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.06.20 18:32:00 -
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... Hm.
Actually, BloodBird, I'm afraid Mr. Rain's got the right of it when he calls himself a traitor. While "traitor" is perhaps most commonly hurled at a spy or saboteur who pretends to still be a part of a cause, it would still apply pretty fully to someone who turns apostate against his nation to the point of killing his countrymen whether or not he continues to associate with them while he's doing it.
Not that this says very much, one way or another; it's just that the word is a little broader than you give it credit for. Actually, I think the number of Amarr apostates we've been seeing says some good things for the Matari cause.
We'll see. I doubt that the largest and most ancient civilization in the cluster is going to fold easily, despite the losses they've suffered lately.
In any case, I'll look forward to seeing how the situation develops.
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Tweakalvos
Your Cute When You Scream
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Posted - 2008.06.20 23:46:00 -
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You are nothing but a coward and a traitor. You not only have forgot your birth right but thrown it in the face of the amarrian brethren. May God have mercy on your ungrateful soul.
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Blacq Rain
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Posted - 2008.06.21 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Micia Good luck with the RSS.
When you're ready there's also the Tribal Liberation Force, where you can really make a difference on the battlefield.
The struggle for liberation and the pursuit of vengeance is not always easy; know that you never fly alone.
Thanks so much for that..even though I roam this galaxy as ronin, essentially, I do not feel alone anymore. To gallentes: I also do missions for your navy as well; as any friend of the matar, is now a friend of mine.
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