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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.10 18:05:00 -
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Well its good that the CSM is acting in such a way that it gets to presure CCP somewhat.
But another vague promise about action in the future is not enough for me, atm. On that at least I agree with the CSM.
PS: Glad to hear about the dead horse agreement. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.13 14:23:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote:
Pretty words mean nothing? Wait for the outcome and then judge.
And you should accept what we say because we've reporting things that were true all of the time for the past 3 years. That's why.
All well and good, but how long should we wait? 18 Months, 6 Months, 3 Months? In the meantime we are still paying actual money to CCP while the only thing we get is vague promises and assurances even after the "rage".
I won't pay my baker for bread he might make next week today. I won't buy milk from a cow that has not been born yet. I am not paying CCP any more for a game that might improve someday.
I am sorry but I will only pay for red meat that's politly presented on a plate with some sauce and french fries and only then after I have eaten it. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.13 20:32:00 -
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Two step wrote: Uh, yes, they are.
I don't get the hostility either. Would you guys really rather we had said nothing at all? It doesn't seem to be clear to some folks that those are the two options.
No we prefer if it you say something substantial
We have heared all the rest before, several times, it no longer impresses. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.14 12:05:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote: CSM is a democratically elected body tasked with interacting with devs. The only authority we have is that given to us by you and CCP, collectively. The powers we have are byproducts of that. If we talk with devs and tell you "they're going to **** something up big time", you'll rage. If we talk to the devs and they tell us "they're fixing this", even though you (collective) may not see the results directly, you see the direction.
Statements made by the CSM to the public, if not respected induce :rage: and threadnoughts as a result. So it's indirect power, but it's power still.
Oh, and people who don't vote have every right to complain if they so want, and they have the same power we have. It just takes many more of non-voters to achieve the same result than having someone represent you can.
While I respect the CSM for what they have been doing and support their actions now it is important to note that barely 15% of players actually voted for the CSM (I believe it was closer to 13%?). I did vote for a CSM I voted for got kicked due to something mysterious involving the NDA I never bothered finding out.
The fact that CCP again fails utterly in communicating to its p(l)ayerbase is unsurprising. How are the arangements between Zulu and the CSM regarding a follow up meeting progressing btw. Now that the media pressure is no longer there?
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Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.15 18:32:00 -
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Meissa Anunthiel wrote: That said, an update, next meeting with Zulu is scheduled for tomorrow, unless there's last minute scheduling problems, so I'll post an update tomorrow night. Either with substance or without, depending on the conversation and whether another round of "let's get the details right" is necessary.
Quoted the interesting bit. I look forward to giving you a hard time on that annoucement but hope I won't have to.
- [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |
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