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Armoured C Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2008.06.22 19:05:00 - [31] and for a minute there i thought CCP had world wide control they used nano's and i want yours now it ok just write down my name and send it to me later
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2008.06.22 19:44:00 - [32] Edited by: Razin on 22/06/2008 19:46:23 Originally by: Teliot Rebburcs Fix your s**t, the constant disconnects are making the game unplayable. I can't pvp, can't run missions, I can't even browse contracts due to being disconnected every 5-10 minutes. No its not my connection, I just played COD4 for an hour and a half without any problems. I'm paying for a game that I can't play and haven't been able to for a couple of days now. It is your connection. I've had the same problem some time back, and, just like in your case, other internet multiplayer games did not exhibit any problems. Traceroute showed some lost packets to EVE server, around 2-5%. I finally ended up having a tech from my cable company (TW at the time) come out to my house and he replaced the cable modem. The packet loss went away and EVE did not disconnect anymore (turns out EVE is much more sensitive to packet loss than other network games). I'd also like to add that CCP tech support was close to useless in helping me to nail the problem. ...
Lakche	Posted - 2008.06.22 22:48:00 - [33] Edited by: Lakche on 22/06/2008 22:48:56 I pay for the "service" just like I do for example my gym membership. If the gym is not able to be used for more than a day I get REIMBURSED. In fact, an internet connection or better is noone else's responsibility but your own. To further your analogy, if the gym is not able to be used because you wrecked your car, you don't get reimbursed, even if you use caps and whine a whole lot. There's atleast one person in my corp who hasn't had any connection problems whatsoever, and the one lives on the westearn hemisphere. Edit: grammar
Marso Neiliev	Posted - 2008.06.22 23:48:00 - [34] Originally by: mogwai just to REALLY annoy folks then.... this isnt the first time CCP has had issues with limelight. The last time it happened, folks couldnt log in for nearly 5 weeks as Limelight refused to acknowledge an issue. (i still have the email stored in hotmail from the exec of limelight after the playerbase had to sort it out ourselves) If that's true, and it's also true that Limelight was the source of this problem before... I've already cancelled my subscription - I'm not at all satisfied with the way CCP has dealt with this problem, let alone the unwillingness to pay for a game I can't play - but if that's true, then I'm writing up a mass-unsubscription petition. I can imagine several hundred players at LEAST that'd consider signing it at this point.
Zinras Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.06.22 23:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Marso Neiliev Originally by: mogwai just to REALLY annoy folks then.... this isnt the first time CCP has had issues with limelight. The last time it happened, folks couldnt log in for nearly 5 weeks as Limelight refused to acknowledge an issue. (i still have the email stored in hotmail from the exec of limelight after the playerbase had to sort it out ourselves) If that's true, and it's also true that Limelight was the source of this problem before... I've already cancelled my subscription - I'm not at all satisfied with the way CCP has dealt with this problem, let alone the unwillingness to pay for a game I can't play - but if that's true, then I'm writing up a mass-unsubscription petition. I can imagine several hundred players at LEAST that'd consider signing it at this point. Can I have your stuff? Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal

CCP Mitnal C C P	Posted - 2008.06.23 05:20:00 - [36] Please refer to these threads for more details: June 22 Connection problems June 20 Connection problems Suffice to say that we're in talks with various ISPs and it is not a local problem with connecting to EVE, it is to do with the route your connection takes to get to the servers in London. Mitnal Community Representative CCP Games, EVE Online Email / Netfang

Kyra Felann Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.06.23 07:43:00 - [37] Is it while you're idling? If so, try loading up some busy chat channels like Recruitment and Help. I have this problem when I'm sitting in stations or whatnot, but as long as some data is coming my way (even chat or if I'm auto-piloting, etc) I don't usually get disconnected.
Kyra Felann Noctis Fleet Technologies	Posted - 2008.06.23 07:51:00 - [38] Edited by: Kyra Felann on 23/06/2008 07:52:13 Originally by: Razin I've had the same problem some time back, and, just like in your case, other internet multiplayer games did not exhibit any problems. Traceroute showed some lost packets to EVE server, around 2-5%. I finally ended up having a tech from my cable company (TW at the time) come out to my house and he replaced the cable modem. The packet loss went away and EVE did not disconnect anymore (turns out EVE is much more sensitive to packet loss than other network games). Well, I recently had my cable modem just go out and it got recently replaced and I still get this problem. It only happens when I and my character/ship are idle. If I'm on auto-pilot, I'm fine. If my ship is sitting there shooting at space rocks, I'm fine. If I'm in some busy chat channels I'm usually fine. But if I leave it completely idle--like in a station--to go downstairs and get a drink or go to the bathroom, when I come back and try to do anything, I instantly get a disconnect. No exaggeration--it only takes a minute or two of idling to get this problem. I'm no expert at this sort of stuff, but I know more than the average person, and what it seems like is that the server is not sending any sort of keep-alive signals or pings or anything when I'm idle, so my computer thinks the connection is lost. Then as soon as I try to do anything, the client realizes "Hey! I don't have a connection to the server! OMG!" and I get the disconnect message. In other games, if I get a disconnect, the game just stops responding for a while, then I get a disconnect, or the game says "You've been kicked for inactivity". Eve is the only game I've had this weird issue with.
Frenetick	Posted - 2008.06.23 09:49:00 - [39] Edited by: Frenetick on 23/06/2008 09:49:34 Originally by: Oliver Everett Originally by: Teliot Rebburcs ..........If the gym is not able to be used for more than a day I get REIMBURSED. The connection issues started immediately after the last little patch, coincidence, probably not. Now go eat your Twinkie. The gym would not reimburse you however if the road was cut off or congested between you and the facilities. If the road got congested just after they added in that new "gruntmeister 3000" to the gym, guess what, ITS STILL NOT THEIR FAULT that 'you' cant use the equipment. Suck it up, and in the mean time go back to the gym and work off some of that attitude. What about if I cycle to the Gym to use their new "gruntmaister 3000", on the way I decide to go shopping at "asdaburys" they've just mopped the floor, it's kind of slippery. I bump into Mrs. Jenkins from next door and she tells me about a special offer on doughnuts (buy 1 get 1 free) I decide to fvck the gym off and go home and get fat? Surely now I will get some form of compensation for being "lardy"?
Delphi Disra Dawn of Fire imPure.	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:34:00 - [40] Than put some servers in USA and heck while your at it put them around the world and link them together It's called REDUNDANCY! You make tones of money do it!
Haakelen Force d'action navale	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:35:00 - [41] Originally by: Delphi Disra Than put some servers in USA and heck while your at it put them around the world and link them together It's called REDUNDANCY! You make tones of money do it! Speaking as someone who's been affected by this issue since the beginning and is quite unhappy with it: That is a terrible idea, you have no idea what you're talking about, please don't do it anymore.
RaTTuS BIG	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:47:00 - [42] Originally by: Delphi Disra Than put some servers in USA and heck while your at it put them around the world and link them together It's called REDUNDANCY! You make tones of money do it! facepalm! please get a clue how the servers work -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve,
Zey Nadar Heavily Utilized Mechanic Mayhem Einherjar Alliance	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:49:00 - [43] Edited by: Zey Nadar on 23/06/2008 10:51:17 Originally by: Lakche In fact, an internet connection or better is noone else's responsibility but your own. So the ISP has no responsibility at all over the service it provides?
Sapphrine Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2008.06.23 10:54:00 - [44] Originally by: Delphi Disra Than put some servers in USA and heck while your at it put them around the world and link them together It's called REDUNDANCY! You make tones of money do it! step away from the internets. You are in need of a stupidity test. read the infiniband thread for a vague clue how the server cluster works and why adding in a global latency between two seperated clusters would be a monumentally bad idea.
Aneu Angellus Revival.	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:10:00 - [45] Originally by: Zey Nadar Edited by: Zey Nadar on 23/06/2008 10:51:17 Originally by: Lakche In fact, an internet connection or better is noone else's responsibility but your own. So the ISP has no responsibility at all over the service it provides? No, he quite clearly stated that an internet connection is the players issue not CCPs, and also ISP issues are they players issue also, not CCPs. CCP dont really need to talk to any ISP but they are... ________________
Aneu Angellus Revival.	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:14:00 - [46] Edited by: Aneu Angellus on 23/06/2008 11:14:52 Originally by: Marso Neiliev Originally by: mogwai just to REALLY annoy folks then.... this isnt the first time CCP has had issues with limelight. The last time it happened, folks couldnt log in for nearly 5 weeks as Limelight refused to acknowledge an issue. (i still have the email stored in hotmail from the exec of limelight after the playerbase had to sort it out ourselves) If that's true, and it's also true that Limelight was the source of this problem before... I've already cancelled my subscription - I'm not at all satisfied with the way CCP has dealt with this problem, let alone the unwillingness to pay for a game I can't play - but if that's true, then I'm writing up a mass-unsubscription petition. I can imagine several hundred players at LEAST that'd consider signing it at this point. Right - are people just stupid or what? 'The way CCP have handled this' seriously, can you read? Are you incapable of rational thought?!?! Let me put this in a way you can understand... CCP (the company who make the game) are not responsible (meaning they have no power over) your ISP or its backbone (ISP is your internet service provider, backbone is the thing that causing you issues) This is not a CCP server issue - i have been connected 23/7 without any problems from the UK, this is entirley an internet route problem... who whine to someone who deals with that, it is not CCP. ________________
Hooch Flux	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:34:00 - [47] Edited by: Hooch Flux on 23/06/2008 11:35:59 This really sounds like your ISP, a lot of us in the UK had a problem very similar to this a few months back. Turns out our ISP was experimenting with Packetshaping to curb P2P sharing a peak times, aparently Eve-O packets look very similar to Torrent packets so their servers were borking us! Are you sure your ISP is not doing something similar? They normally don't give a warning about something like this because they know their customers will flee when they find this out! Have you done a trace to the CCP servers based in London, when our ISP was doing this it showed one of the ISP's servers was half-assed letting the packets through! Good luck, but I doubt their is anything wrong with the CCP servers that they havn't mentioned! I say prep for dustoff, nuke the site from orbit... Only way to be sure!
Taedrin Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:46:00 - [48] Interestingly enough, I have never been disconnected from TQ without it having been a problem with MY ISP... Just hope some idiot isn't going around cutting the transcontinental cables like some crazies suspect
kc51 Armada.	Posted - 2008.06.23 11:59:00 - [49] Originally by: Teliot Rebburcs Fix your st, the constant disconnects are making the game unplayable. I can't pvp, can't run missions, I can't even browse contracts due to being disconnected every 5-10 minutes. No its not my connection, I just played COD4 for an hour and a half without any problems. I'm paying for a game that I can't play and haven't been able to for a couple of days now. Its so obvious you have never worked in any customer service type industry. Hey CCP, Im paying you X amount of money, i just connected to your game now my internet doesnt work, its all your fault. The ocean is blue and sky is blue and its all yoru fault. My girlfriend dumped me and i got fired from my job and its all your fault. Reimburse me!!! (you're prolly not paying anything but paying in isk anyway, so someone else is paying). What an *hole!! Be patient!! I get disconnected too, but come to find out there is atyphoon going on right now and my internet provider is wireless. So i'm not complaining, why dont you follow suit as well and stop complaining. At least think before you speak!!!!
Theo Samaritan Eve-Academy	Posted - 2008.06.23 12:13:00 - [50] Originally by: Kyra Felann Well, I recently had my cable modem just go out and it got recently replaced and I still get this problem. It only happens when I and my character/ship are idle. If I'm on auto-pilot, I'm fine. If my ship is sitting there shooting at space rocks, I'm fine. If I'm in some busy chat channels I'm usually fine. But if I leave it completely idle--like in a station--to go downstairs and get a drink or go to the bathroom, when I come back and try to do anything, I instantly get a disconnect. No exaggeration--it only takes a minute or two of idling to get this problem. I'm no expert at this sort of stuff, but I know more than the average person, and what it seems like is that the server is not sending any sort of keep-alive signals or pings or anything when I'm idle, so my computer thinks the connection is lost. Then as soon as I try to do anything, the client realizes "Hey! I don't have a connection to the server! OMG!" and I get the disconnect message. In other games, if I get a disconnect, the game just stops responding for a while, then I get a disconnect, or the game says "You've been kicked for inactivity". Eve is the only game I've had this weird issue with. Thats actually game design, it is supposed to work like this because it is still running off the old dialup-ready connection system, which doesn't send keep-alive pings in order to stop draining bandwidth when it doesn't need to. Thats my understanding of it, I have the same thing. -------------- Lord WarATron: "To do the Abaddon Hadoken, you need to do the following manover with the joypad. ↓ .... ↓→ .... → + ●."
Zinras Order of draugr	Posted - 2008.06.23 12:20:00 - [51] Originally by: kc51 At least think before you speak!!!! Thinking before we speak? In General Discussion? Also, I'm still waiting for mr Marso Neiliev to give me his stuff Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal
Soldur Forseti Ronin	Posted - 2008.06.23 12:31:00 - [52] Yea i second this not only i have been crashing, but other corp mates in GA, Canada, and Aus
Blydchyld Galactic Extensive Enterprises	Posted - 2008.06.23 17:00:00 - [53] Edited by: Blydchyld on 23/06/2008 17:03:12 Originally by: Aneu Angellus Originally by: Zey Nadar Edited by: Zey Nadar on 23/06/2008 10:51:17 Originally by: Lakche In fact, an internet connection or better is noone else's responsibility but your own. So the ISP has no responsibility at all over the service it provides? No, he quite clearly stated that an internet connection is the players issue not CCPs, and also ISP issues are they players issue also not CCPs. CCP dont really need to talk to any ISP but they are... Now Aneu, are you RELLY the best person to be talking about ISP stuff? What happended to your last job in the ISP industry? You are however 100% right. BTW, hows life been since then? Thought about coming back to us? love, del (BTW im on the FMC now) I LIKE ARK! The above post is my post and does not represent the views of any entity, If my views have upset you PM me

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