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John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.17 12:34:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:
I've seen the videos and other threads about this and the fights usually go something like this.
We were actually there and haven't read about it on forums so plz stop talking about things you have no clue about.
Quote: Goons/FA/FCON/RZR/SMA + Friends bring a sub-cap fleet to fight Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends (lol? and you guys whine about blobs, you serious??) sub-cap fleet.
Number of alliances != number of ships in the fleet or rather fleets. CFC never engages us without having an advantage in numbers.
Quote: Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends realise they are losing and jump in a ton of Titans/Super Caps and then run to the forums to say Titans aren't OP as Goons + Friends are using the wrong tactics in countering them.
Yeah, what a suprise team dot uses its supers in order to counterbalance the CFC numbers. CFC certainly never expects that. They are surprised every singe time.
Quote: I have yet to see anything that suggests that anyone is solely using Drakes to actively engage Titans or Super Caps.
Than stop reading forums and watching videos and join a CFC fleet instead.
Quote: It's always the sub-cap fight wrecked by Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends jumping in their Titans when they are losing.
And you came to this conclusion by reading goon propaganda? I am not sure why I am even answering your post...
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Orion GUardian
131
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Posted - 2012.03.17 12:36:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote:Headerman wrote:Andski wrote:good god you're all retar ded aren't you one shitfit titan dying to dreads in lowsec (no DDs) is irrelevant Oh well, you just keep sending them drakes, i am sure they will kill something... one day Think you and all the rest of the Anti-Titan nerf brigade are missing a very important point.....no-one brings Drakes to kill Titans. I've seen the videos and other threads about this and the fights usually go something like this. Goons/FA/FCON/RZR/SMA + Friends bring a sub-cap fleet to fight Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends (lol? and you guys whine about blobs, you serious??) sub-cap fleet. Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends realise they are losing and jump in a ton of Titans/Super Caps and then run to the forums to say Titans aren't OP as Goons + Friends are using the wrong tactics in countering them. I have yet to see anything that suggests that anyone is solely using Drakes to actively engage Titans or Super Caps. It's always the sub-cap fight wrecked by Init./Raiden./Ev0ke/NC./PL/-A-/Hell4s + Friends jumping in their Titans when they are losing. But 10/10 for your obfuscation and sleight of hand maneuvers to try and justify your points.
Beautiful summary of whats happening. Oh and getting blueballed by RaidenDOT and friends happens alot as well ;). |
Orion GUardian
131
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Posted - 2012.03.17 12:41:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Yeah, what a suprise team dot uses its supers in order to counterbalance the CFC numbers. CFC certainly never expects that. They are surprised every singe time
Well lying seems not to be above you. More often than not the DOT coalition brings about the same amount of people to a fight as the CFC. So they are blobbing as much as we do. Sometimes they outnumber us anyway and we still fight. A little different from DOTs tactics: "Oh noes, Goons got 50 ships more than us... BRING TITANS!" and if Titans are not avaible just don't show up... "We didn't want this Region anyway" And you are surprised Titans get a nerfbat?
Btw I doubt some Highsec NSC corper goes into Nullsec that much, at least post with your main, coward. |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:02:00 -
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Cyaron wars wrote:You can link many killmails and say different things, but you all will be wrong. As one guy already posted in this thread: You cannot balance 70 billion ship vs 200 million ship. With same success you can try to balance Lamborghini vs Volkswagen Golf. Any attempt that you make will fail since it will be wrong from very beginning. CCP should balance titans and supers against capitas and balance capitals against subcaps. that is the main point.
Hahaha.
Ok, so tell me - can you balance 70 billion ship vs 350 200 million ships? |
Berke Negri
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
66
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:03:00 -
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i never understood why a person living in nullsec like a raidenDOT pilot would have to post with an npc alt
what can people do, wardec your corp?
oh no that's right raidenDOT directorate is so embarrassed of their posting they order them to not post with their mains |
Sentinel Eeex
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:15:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Scatim Helicon wrote:Tell me more about how the death of an comedy titan fit with smartbombs and no tank has any relevance to the tracking abilities of massed XL guns. More tracking = less tank maybe? More tracking = easier to gank maybe? More tracking = greater risk of losing the ship to a half thought out fleet composition that, surprisingly, is cap heavy? And did you miss the rest of the titans in that battle report? They could have been there from anytime tho
What you are saying is - you have no idea what happened there, but are using it as an argument anyway?
Sweet |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:18:00 -
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Orion GUardian wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:
Yeah, what a suprise team dot uses its supers in order to counterbalance the CFC numbers. CFC certainly never expects that. They are surprised every singe time
Well lying seems not to be above you. More often than not the DOT coalition brings about the same amount of people to a fight as the CFC. So they are blobbing as much as we do. Sometimes they outnumber us anyway and we still fight. A little different from DOTs tactics: "Oh noes, Goons got 50 ships more than us... BRING TITANS!" and if Titans are not avaible just don't show up... "We didn't want this Region anyway" And you are surprised Titans get a nerfbat? Btw I doubt some Highsec NSC corper goes into Nullsec that much, at least post with your main, coward.
Oh please, how did the whole thing start? Raiden asked for help because you have started to openly threaten them. Everyone has seen your 900 man blobs and knew that RDN wouldn't stand a chance even with their supers.
And there is a huge misperception from your side. When team dot doesn't show up it is simply because we don't get enough people into the fleet to achieve at least a 2 cfc to 1 team dot ratio. Simply because our whole coalition is much smaller than yours. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance Simply do your math. + NC. and PL are not always around due to merc contracts but even with them, you still outnumber us.
You fight Raiden, Evoks and Init most of the time. The number of members of these three alliances combined are by far smaller than the Goonswarm alone!
Oh, and I would understand your whining if the CFC would be some kind of poor alliance without the ability to counter our supers. But you simply don't have the balls to do so for what reason ever. We risk our supers every time we bring them on field. Your alliance seems only to be able to field cheap ships even though you have a shitload of tech. And then you wonder why your horde of peasants with pitch forks is losing against a well equiped army. Hillarious!
P.S: I won't comment on this issue any further, this is not what this thread should be about. P.P.S: I still agree that the titans should be balanced.... I just think that this should be done properly instead of turning them into giant stargates. According to PL this changes will not change anything, though. Which makes the proposed changes even more stupid. |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
195
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Posted - 2012.03.17 13:36:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:And you came to this conclusion by reading goon propaganda? I am not sure why I am even answering your post...
LMAO! Actually it was from reading the forums from/about Raiden. and watching their videos on Youtube. Your own 'propaganda' is not painting your argument in a good light.
I rarely if ever bother with Goon propaganda as it's not that great to be honest. You can see the punchlines coming a mile off with them.
John Maynard Keynes wrote:Oh please, how did the whole thing start? Raiden asked for help because you have started to openly threaten them. Everyone has seen your 900 man blobs and knew that RDN wouldn't stand a chance even with their supers. And there is a huge misperception from your side. When team dot doesn't show up it is simply because we don't get enough people into the fleet to achieve at least a 2 cfc to 1 team dot ratio. Simply because our whole coalition is much smaller than yours. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/allianceSimply do your math. + NC. and PL are not always around due to merc contracts but even with them, you still outnumber us. You fight Raiden, Evoks and Init most of the time. The number of members of these three alliances combined are by far smaller than the Goonswarm alone! Oh, and I would understand your whining if the CFC would be some kind of poor alliance without the ability to counter our supers. But you simply don't have the balls to do so for what reason ever. We risk our supers every time we bring them on field. Your alliance seems only to be able to field cheap ships even though you have a shitload of tech. And then you wonder why your horde of peasants with pitch forks is losing against a well equiped army. Hillarious! P.S: I won't comment on this issue any further, this is not what this thread should be about. P.P.S: I still agree that the titans should be balanced.... I just think that this should be done properly instead of turning them into giant stargates. According to PL this changes will not change anything, though. Which makes the proposed changes even more stupid.
Raiden. may want to change their killboards then as the fights over the last 2-3 weeks have pretty much shown equal numbers in the fights between them and the CFC.
Again, out right lies and obfuscation to try and prove your points.
I suggest you read the forums and watch the Youtube videos because you say you were there, but which fights? Certainly doesn't seem to be the same one's Raiden. + Friends and the CFC have been at. |
John Maynard Keynes
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.03.17 14:32:00 -
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Smiling Menace wrote: stuff
You know, it is hard to argue with a forum warrior. You simply take a period of your choise and claim it to be representative for the entire war. And it is not like you present any evidence.
Yes, the more often goons get supers dropped on their heads the fewer goons are apparently willing to join the fleets.
It started more like this though: http://dog-net.org/brdoc/?brid=5706
And now, everyone keep trolling and whining and forum warrioring... |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
412
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Posted - 2012.03.17 15:43:00 -
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Ok |
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Andski
GoonWaffe
3189
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:29:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:words
look at this pubbie trash acting like he has a clue "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
Dez Affinity
Habitual Euthanasia Pandemic Legion
53
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Posted - 2012.03.17 16:45:00 -
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Andski wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:words look at this pubbie trash acting like he has a clue
For just 5 dollars a month you can get this guy a hobby.
MAKE A DIFFERENCE TODAY |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
412
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Posted - 2012.03.17 17:47:00 -
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Dez Affinity wrote:Andski wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:words look at this pubbie trash acting like he has a clue For just 5 dollars a month you can get this guy a hobby. MAKE A DIFFERENCE TODAY
or 10bux so he can join the valiant posters on the Something Awful Dot Com forums |
Andski
GoonWaffe
3189
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Posted - 2012.03.17 17:54:00 -
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2007 account whatup "WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL" ~ snot shot, 2012 |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
412
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Posted - 2012.03.17 17:58:00 -
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...2009 :regd09: |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
499
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:09:00 -
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2001 OG |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
11
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:56:00 -
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everyone after 2004 is a spy |
Pesadel0
the muppets RED.OverLord
32
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Posted - 2012.03.17 18:59:00 -
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Sorry bros been away working , any news from the devs on the changes more nerfs? |
Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
196
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Posted - 2012.03.17 19:22:00 -
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John Maynard Keynes wrote:You simply take a period of your choise and claim it to be representative for the entire war. And it is not like you present any evidence.
So do you it seems. You pick a one fight from January and point to that as representative. How about you check the Raiden. killboard for the last 6 weeks? That would be the best representation, don't you think, as that's the longer period of time.
John Maynard Keynes wrote:Yes, the more often goons get supers dropped on their heads the fewer goons are apparently willing to join the fleets.
So by this statement you are contradicting yourself. There aren't really thousands of Goons in fleets you are now saying? Also, it nice that you confirm that you do have to abuse broken game mechanics to actually win your fights.
John Maynard Keynes wrote:And now, everyone keep trolling and whining and forum warrioring...
lol I am not the one whining, trolling or forum 'warrioring' (that isn't even a word by the way).
I am only pointing out the fallacy in your statements and showing utter contempt for the lies you are spewing all over the forums in a vain attempt to somehow prove that the Titan mechanics aren't broken. By your own words you have even confirmed they are so shhh, and stop whining that your shiny ship is getting nerfed.
It happens to us all, live with it same as us non-Titan owning peons have to. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
412
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Posted - 2012.03.17 22:31:00 -
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Hi |
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Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.17 22:44:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:I'm changing my numbers. This thread isnt 70% sperging Goons. Its 90%. Thats funny, since after all - you have apparently "won" EVE. YAY! |
Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.17 23:13:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Andski wrote:good god you're all retar ded aren't you one shitfit titan dying to dreads in lowsec (no DDs) is irrelevant Oh well, you just keep sending them drakes, i am sure they will kill something... one day
http://www.black-mark.net/3.1.8/index.php/kill_related/26009/
Look at ze drake fleet killing Lokis abas guardians etc. |
Snot Shot
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
60
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Posted - 2012.03.17 23:23:00 -
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Hi guis!! I thought I would dip my toe in here and remind everyone of one thing.......the CFC are free to log in their Supers at anytime. The fact is your FC's feel they are too incompetent to use them so they distract you with "imbalance issues" to hide this fact.
The CFC out number everyone you're told to attack or, let's face it, you would'nt attack. You have just as many, if not more, Super caps than anyone you attack. Yet you're cowards and to scared to use them.
You only throw fleets at fights where you have 2/1 favor. As the fight escalates to Capitals your FC's choose to run instead of logging in your own Supers to fight. This is EVE, 0.0 warfare is where the strong survive, not the ones too scared to use big boy toys. Since you are too fail to use the ships that are required during any size fleet fight escalation, you tell CCP to nerf that which you are too scared to use.
Sorry to call you out on this but the facts are so clear........even I can see it for Jita 4-4... . GÇ£God grant me the serenity to accept the things I canGÇÖt shoot, the courage to shoot the things I can, and the wisdom GTFO!!GÇ¥GÇô Snot Shot - 2012.......... [url]http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753[/url]
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RDevz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
33
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:16:00 -
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It's amazing how playing station games in Jita qualifies you to talk about titans. |
Sethur Blackcoat
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:18:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Hi guis!! I thought I would dip my toe in here and remind everyone of one thing.......the CFC are free to log in their Supers at anytime. The fact is your FC's feel they are too incompetent to use them so they distract you with "imbalance issues" to hide this fact. The CFC out number everyone you're told to attack or, let's face it, you would'nt attack. You have just as many, if not more, Super caps than anyone you attack. Yet you're cowards and to scared to use them. You only throw fleets at fights where you have 2/1 favor. As the fight escalates to Capitals your FC's choose to run instead of logging in your own Supers to fight. This is EVE, 0.0 warfare is where the strong survive, not the ones too scared to use big boy toys. Since you are too fail to use the ships that are required during any size fleet fight escalation, you tell CCP to nerf that which you are too scared to use. Sorry to call you out on this but the facts are so clear........even I can see it for Jita 4-4... . WeGÇÖre a professional Merc Alliance, like PL |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
328
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:34:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Hi guis!! I thought I would dip my toe in here and remind everyone of one thing.......the CFC are free to log in their Supers at anytime. The fact is your FC's feel they are too incompetent to use them so they distract you with "imbalance issues" to hide this fact. The CFC out number everyone you're told to attack or, let's face it, you would'nt attack. You have just as many, if not more, Super caps than anyone you attack. Yet you're cowards and to scared to use them. You only throw fleets at fights where you have 2/1 favor. As the fight escalates to Capitals your FC's choose to run instead of logging in your own Supers to fight. This is EVE, 0.0 warfare is where the strong survive, not the ones too scared to use big boy toys. Since you are too fail to use the ships that are required during any size fleet fight escalation, you tell CCP to nerf that which you are too scared to use. Sorry to call you out on this but the facts are so clear........even I can see it for Jita 4-4... . you were supposed to use your npc alt to post itt ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006 |
Snot Shot
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
60
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:53:00 -
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RDevz wrote:It's amazing how playing station games in Jita qualifies you to talk about titans. What's to be qualified for? Everyone has access to the same ships in EVE, you have more pilots than any coalition in EVE, yet you're tying to make it sound like other alliances have some sort of unfair advantage over you? Face it, it's simply your FC's are too scared to use Super Caps....so you want them nerf'd.
What else are your FC's scared of that CCP needs to nerf? . GÇ£God grant me the serenity to accept the things I canGÇÖt shoot, the courage to shoot the things I can, and the wisdom GTFO!!GÇ¥GÇô Snot Shot - 2012.......... [url]http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753[/url]
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Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:25:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Hi guis!! I thought I would dip my toe in here and remind everyone of one thing.......the CFC are free to log in their Supers at anytime. The fact is your FC's feel they are too incompetent to use them so they distract you with "imbalance issues" to hide this fact. The CFC out number everyone you're told to attack or, let's face it, you would'nt attack. You have just as many, if not more, Super caps than anyone you attack. Yet you're cowards and to scared to use them. You only throw fleets at fights where you have 2/1 favor. As the fight escalates to Capitals your FC's choose to run instead of logging in your own Supers to fight. This is EVE, 0.0 warfare is where the strong survive, not the ones too scared to use big boy toys. Since you are too fail to use the ships that are required during any size fleet fight escalation, you tell CCP to nerf that which you are too scared to use. Sorry to call you out on this but the facts are so clear........even I can see it for Jita 4-4... . Jita -------------------------------------> that way, go away pubbie.... |
Kosh Seere
Dissonance Corp BLACK-MARK
2
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:29:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:RDevz wrote:It's amazing how playing station games in Jita qualifies you to talk about titans. What's to be qualified for? Everyone has access to the same ships in EVE, you have more pilots than any coalition in EVE, yet you're tying to make it sound like other alliances have some sort of unfair advantage over you? Face it, it's simply your FC's are too scared to use Super Caps....so you want them nerf'd. What else are your FC's scared of that CCP needs to nerf? . You actually asking that question just shows how little you know; now stfu and go concentrate about shooting noobs on the undock in jita.
Edit: Oh btw nice wardec u had on BLM last time, 1 kill..... a pod. |
Sir Marksalot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
35
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Posted - 2012.03.18 01:46:00 -
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Kosh Seere wrote:Snot Shot wrote:RDevz wrote:It's amazing how playing station games in Jita qualifies you to talk about titans. What's to be qualified for? Everyone has access to the same ships in EVE, you have more pilots than any coalition in EVE, yet you're tying to make it sound like other alliances have some sort of unfair advantage over you? Face it, it's simply your FC's are too scared to use Super Caps....so you want them nerf'd. What else are your FC's scared of that CCP needs to nerf? . You actually asking that question just shows how little you know; now stfu and go concentrate about shooting noobs on the undock in jita. Edit: Oh btw nice wardec u had on BLM last time, 1 kill..... a pod.
i like your idea, i shall see about implementing it soon |
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