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Targie McRed
Wilkins and Bennett CO Cutting Edge Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Targie McRed on 26/06/2008 16:43:06 My alliance is currently having a problem with a high-sec pos where by one of our members made his own corp with enough standing to set up in 0.6
The problem is that no other alliance members can use the labs or the hanger arrays.
Is there any way to remedie this, as in so all alliance members can use the labs or have CCP stoped this happening.
If that is the case, how many of you would like this implemented.
Thank you
Targie McRed
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Xonox Galatorg
Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.06.26 16:55:00 -
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Alliance members cannot use the hangars.
In order to use the labs they will have to have an office in a station in the same system. They will also only be able to use the ME and PE slots (that don't require materials). Materials need to be in the lab itself and since they can't access those hangars they can't effectively use the copy and invent slots.
-Xonox Pulsar Combat Supplies, Director of Production and POS |
Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:05:00 -
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POS's are corp assets, all BPOs for them can be in two places for use within a corp, the corp office in the same system as the POS, or the lab itself. All materials needed must be in the POS itself.
Nothing can ever be in a personal hangar.
For alliance research you can only do ME/PE research that doesn't require materials. For this the BPOs need to be in an office of a corp in the alliance.
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Targie McRed
Wilkins and Bennett CO Cutting Edge Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:10:00 -
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What i am hearing is that all the labs are set to alliance use. its been set to alliance to alow view and take.
this is misleading as i should then be able to access everything.
is this a glich?!
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Horchan
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Posted - 2008.06.26 17:35:00 -
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All Copying jobs, all Invention jobs, and certain ME/PE Research jobs, the job requires input materials that must be in the Mobile Lab at the POS, and/or will output items into the Mobile Lab at the POS.
However, for those items to be in the Mobile Lab, you MUST be part of the corp that owns the POS so you can access the corp hanger built into the Mobile Lab. Being in the same alliance doesn't cut it since you don't have access to the corp hanger of the corp that owns the POS, and thus don't have a location for the items to be input/output from those research jobs. ---
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Letrange
Chaosstorm Corporation Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2008.06.26 18:10:00 -
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Welcome to the fun "unfinished" part of eve. Yes there are settings that seem to indicate you can allow alliance access to a hangar. They don't work. CPP took the ability to do that out of the game without removing the user interface that allowed you to set the rights. Fun isn't it.
The Pew Pew gets all the attention - the corp/alliance management is just a hodgepodge of un-finished stuff.
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lo324
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Posted - 2008.06.26 18:41:00 -
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why did CCP take it away in the first place?
most people use poses for aliences and such
so why dont thay just reinitalize that part of the code thay all ready have it. wouldnt it make more sence just to put it back in the game and to help aliences out once in a blue moon
this i think is what targie mcred is onabout.
come on people would you like to see this bit of the code back in the game just to make it a little easer
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Targie McRed
Wilkins and Bennett CO Cutting Edge Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2008.06.26 18:44:00 -
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i think they should put this as a feature back into the game.
and lo you make sence.
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Bleiz Athannar
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Posted - 2008.06.26 23:10:00 -
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Yeah, my alliance was having the same problem. The POS general figured out a way to give individual members of the alliance access; they had to have access to the corp hangar and have the role Rent Research Slot or something. But the corp management page is a nightmare, he said.
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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.06.27 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Targie McRed What i am hearing is that all the labs are set to alliance use. its been set to alliance to alow view and take.
this is misleading as i should then be able to access everything.
is this a glich?!
The permissions on hangars within POS arrays are a combination of the POS permissions (corp/alliance/starbase ) etc. AND The roles you issue for hangar access (other). Since you cannot give roles to members outside your alliance, they cannot access them. This is a limitation of the roles system, it's not a 'glitch', maybe a design flaw, but it's working 'as designed'.
Quote: why did CCP take it away in the first place?
See they DIDN'T take it away. It never worked.
The only thing CCP took away was the ability to make copies using alliance POS's. The reason for this is quite simple, it NEVER worked, it would output the BPC to a hangar that no one could access without GM intervention. When a handful of people were using it, this wasn't so much of an issue, once it became popular, GM's had to devote a considerable amount of time to perform 'everyday' tasks for players. Obviously this isn't possible GM's don't have time to do that. So they disabled it. CCP never took away any 'working' feature, they took away something that wasn't working to save GM's time.
The entire role/permission/hangar/POS permissions system needs a major major overhaul in many more aspects than just this, unfortunately there's no 'quick fix' and any attempt at a fix is likely to create more issues. So it's seemingly ignored for now in the 'too hard' basket.
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Pernick
Gallente Wilkins and Bennett CO
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Posted - 2008.06.27 13:41:00 -
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My computer died last night (Power Supply Failure)
I need someone from WABCO to call my Cell after 4:30 EDST (2130 EVE Time)
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Elhina Novae
Amarr Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI
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Posted - 2008.06.27 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Letrange Welcome to the fun "unfinished" part of eve. Yes there are settings that seem to indicate you can allow alliance access to a hangar. They don't work. CPP took the ability to do that out of the game without removing the user interface that allowed you to set the rights. Fun isn't it.
The Pew Pew gets all the attention - the corp/alliance management is just a hodgepodge of un-finished stuff.
Yeah seems so. The Corporation Interface really sux so horribly it's not funny. Giving someone a specific role/access is a pain in the ass and then you count in POSs too that, even worse. CCP should REALLY looks this over. Somebody set up us the bomb |
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