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Re Mi
Caldari Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:13:00 -
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The POS warfare in Geminate is actually causing Goons to lose participation rates in their ops, or so I am hearing from a trusted source. Many ops are down by half, or more. Apparently, people are getting sick of standing around for weeks on end doing nothing except reloading their ammo and hauling trade goods and fuel. Goons have also had trouble with their logistics. They are over extended and are burning out their people because they don't have a good jump bridging system yet. They are having to rope people in to do a miserable job, hauling, onlining, fueling and so on. Being a worker bee REALLY sucks and most people involved are bored out of their skull, in some cases spending 2-4 hours a day just doing POS related work. As I have said before, 2/3 of Goons are slaves, the rest live off their work.
On a commercial level, they are having trouble finding out what to do with the space they have. Due to the constant nano-gang menace, the space is worthless to rat in. And the moons are crap. It is turning into a giant isk pit for Goons. The estimate I heard is at least 220 billion in uninsured losses and expenses for materials and fuel. Each cap ship they keep field is costing 15-30 million a week at least, (depending on how active they are and if they are sharing the accounts to extend use). Based on income estimates for the value of the space, rats and moons, it would take as long as a year and a half to two years of ideal conditions with a full set of renters in the space to recoup their losses. This has taken a huge chunk of their isk, leaving them without funds for other operations. What a bloodbath. All of this for space in the Drone Regions.
This information cost me a few million isk so take it for what its worth. It has been cross checked by an additional source, and I consider it a rough estimate, not actual accounting. At any rate, I thought it was interesting enough for CAOD.
I also think its pretty funny that RK transitioned a lot of their isk to investments in passive income streams, which anyone who has been watching the sell forums and other places can see. This is also why RK will not fold like Goons want them to, because they can fund their operations without any space at all. This could go on for months.
Good luck Goons. OHGOD indeed.
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Splagada
Minmatar Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Splagada on 01/07/2008 22:14:00 yeah. half participation ! lol... from a 1243355 people group. i mean its just like its 2x the standard online membership of any alliance up to.. oh.. goonswarm :P ------
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Bapp
REUNI0N Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:17:00 -
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Hey guys, wake up :D its summer..
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:22:00 -
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Your wall of text just killed our CAOD participation levels too because goons had to go through all those letters :( Sig locked, please mail [email protected] with a new sig to be considered for use - Mitnal.
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Xanuf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:24:00 -
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Rumor has it shooting blues boosts fleet participation, maybe we should try that.
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Will Hunter
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:25:00 -
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holy **** this is one the of the worst caod post i have seen
Captain gordowns level of quality
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Jotram
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:26:00 -
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another roadkill whine.
no-one is coming to save you.
and the space is fine, i made 400mill there easy in the last 4 days. i never had to safespot once.
Quote: They are over extended and are burning out their people because they don't have a good jump bridging system yet.
lol goons have the best bridge network in the game. its easy to fly one end of there space to another in less than 15 minutes. (basicly from drone regions > paragon soul)
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Swamp Ziro
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:27:00 -
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this thread is now a tribute to captaingordon
Back when Goonfleet was coasting there was a goon who loved boasting to quiet the fuss he linked the anus and now he'll no longer be posting. Sig locked, please mail [email protected] with a new sig to be considered for use - Mitnal.
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Xanuf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jotram
Quote: They are over extended and are burning out their people because they don't have a good jump bridging system yet.
lol goons have the best bridge network in the game. its easy to fly one end of there space to another in less than 15 minutes. (basicly from drone regions > paragon soul)
But he heard it on the interwebs, it must be true.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Swamp Ziro this thread is now a tribute to captaingordon
Back when Goonfleet was coasting there was a goon who loved boasting to quiet the fuss he linked the anus and now he'll no longer be posting.
REMEMBER CAPTAINGORDON!!
ALL HAIL THE GOATSELORD!
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"PT, you are a complete and total jerk."
Yes. Yes I am.
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Anahid Brutus
TunkbwahCorp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mi This information cost me a few million isk so take it for what its worth.
Hello, please contact me for more information, starting price of just 100m, i'll make something good up. caod ready and everything.
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Severe Admin
Blind Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.01 22:51:00 -
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quiet down slave quiet down
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Zyz'yx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 23:40:00 -
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I'm a slave re mi I know how hard it is being in goonfleet. I'd love to tell you about it but my masters don't give me any isk since we've spent it all in geminate.
Send me 100m isk and I'd be happy to sit down and chat with you.
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maya miner
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Posted - 2008.07.01 23:44:00 -
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break out the vodka, comrades
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NerftheSmurf
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 23:47:00 -
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News at 11: re mi discovers that pos warfare can be boring at times
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.01 23:49:00 -
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That is a really awful post tbh.
Sigh.
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MC McMic
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.01 23:58:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mi On a commercial level, they are having trouble finding out what to do with the space they have.
Actually, we're having trouble finding out what to do with the space Smashkill USED TO have. It's really not very good, and no one seems to want it much.
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n00b alt3
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:00:00 -
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i wish these alts would make up their mind about who they are rooting for.
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n00b alt3
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: MC McMic
Originally by: Re Mi On a commercial level, they are having trouble finding out what to do with the space they have.
Actually, we're having trouble finding out what to do with the space Smashkill USED TO have. It's really not very good, and no one seems to want it much.
including the former owners
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alden good
Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: maya miner break out the vodka, comrades
I LOVE THE SONG
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Aaron Static
Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:40:00 -
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tl;dr
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:49:00 -
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yeah no this is pretty spot on
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.07.02 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mi .....so I am hearing from a trusted source.....
You can trust a goon?
Preposterous!
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Jennai
The Greater Goon
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Posted - 2008.07.02 01:17:00 -
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who doesn't whine about pos war? it's stupid bull**** that no one wants to do, especially when the enemy doesn't even show up.
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Re Mi
Caldari Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.07.02 03:23:00 -
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No one refutes anything in this post, all they say are "you are terrible" et cetera, et cetera. No one disputes the facts though. They are too busy with one liners. Its all true. Thats the real revenge.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.02 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: Re Mi Edited by: Re Mi on 02/07/2008 03:25:51 No one refutes anything in this post, all they say are "you are terrible" et cetera, et cetera. No one disputes the facts though. They are too busy with one liners. Its all true. Thats the real revenge.
*edit By the way, how much to pay for a Goon slave these days.
thats kinda their thing. If you take that away they will have nothing. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!
Atlas Fleet Admiral Former SmashKill Coaliton Leader
Stop banning me please
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Re Mi
Caldari Funshine Unlimited
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Posted - 2008.07.02 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Swamp Ziro this thread is now a tribute to captaingordon
Back when Goonfleet was coasting there was a goon who loved boasting to quiet the fuss he linked the anus and now he'll no longer be posting.
Fair is foul, and foul is fair. Hover through the fog and filthy air.
Funshine Unlimited - An Industrial Services Corporation |
geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 10:48:00 -
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i was supposed to go shot pos today, but i have to read this wall of text so i can't
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 10:50:00 -
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Re Mi: probably the worst informed poster on CAOD. -clp
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geno effort
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.07.02 10:55:00 -
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seriously though, between the stolen posses, loot, and very low losses, this is the first goon campaign in which the swarm actually gains money instead of wasting it, even with deadtitan's erebus considered.
like, i have four combat characters, and while i've lost a few ships on each, since the beginning of this campaign none of them have been podded.
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