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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:40:00 -
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Edited by: Takashi X2 on 04/07/2008 07:03:50 Edited by: Takashi X2 on 04/07/2008 07:03:42 Okay i finally figured it out its cuz the new cards are 35 bucks which is redicolous all on its own. But guys keep the exchange rate the same 10 cents per mil isk or 350mil for teh 60 day dotn let people walk all over you just cuz the card is different there is no reason to pay 380-420 a card cuz thats just give teh sellers extra isk for nothing at all
Can someone pllzz explain this to me
pre 60 day time card
30day 140-175 mil approx $15 90day 360-400 mil approx $40
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30day 200-300 mil approx $15 60day 350-450 mil approx $30
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Biatchyka
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:41:00 -
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Supply & Demand
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.03 15:58:00 -
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Edited by: Takashi X2 on 03/07/2008 16:00:10 i dont really see how its changed much the supply and demand hasnt changed at all. The people who want time via isk hasnt increaded and the people selling em havnet decresed. Im just iffy on the whole jump from 5 mil a day to like 7.5-10 cuz people think that a 60 day time card is so different than a 30 or 90.
If you were talking about time card yes you can argue that 30 and 90 days are gone but the number of 60's are still infinite just like the other two were the only difference is that a person using em would have to pay double every 2 months which is the same $$ per month
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Belmarduk
Amarr de Prieure Four Elements
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Posted - 2008.07.03 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Biatchyka Supply & Demand
Yep exactly The HELL I will buy the 60 days GTC for these ****ing ridicolous prices.... The prices will go back to normal again .) I suggest everyone who doesnt need a gtc urgently just dont buy one ! Free market is good and well - but greedy little ****heads **** me off. Have a good day CCP Please give us casual players a Skill-Queue !
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Zark off
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Posted - 2008.07.03 16:59:00 -
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1 x 90 GTC use to cost $38.85 1 X 30 GTC use to cost $14.99 now CCP brings in new card
1 x 60 GTC $34.99
so the price i pay for GTC has gone up so you pay more isk
30day GTC use to go for 160mil to 190mil
90day 390mil to 450mil
why do people think they can still pay the same as they use to,prices go up Just like in-game.
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Elamef FyreStar
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Posted - 2008.07.03 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Zark off 1 x 90 GTC use to cost $38.85 1 X 30 GTC use to cost $14.99 now CCP brings in new card
1 x 60 GTC $34.99
so the price i pay for GTC has gone up so you pay more isk
30day GTC use to go for 160mil to 190mil
90day 390mil to 450mil
why do people think they can still pay the same as they use to,prices go up Just like in-game.
$38.85/90=.4316666 cents per day $14.99/30=.4996666 cents per day
the new 60d cards cost $34.99/60 = .58316666 cents per day. Almost 10 cents per day more than the other two cards. 10 cents = approximatedly 1M ISK. Therefore if we take the known ISK per card and add 1M per day we get the following ( When i was selling GTCs I averaged 170M ISk per 30d card and 400M ISk per 90 day)
170,000,000/30=5,666,666 ISK per day add 1M = 6,666,666 x 60d = 399,999,960 ISK 400,000,000/90=4,444,444 ISK per day add 1M = 5,444,444 x 60d = 326,666,640 ISK
So roughly 330M - 400M is reasonable.
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Ramirez Macklaud
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Posted - 2008.07.03 17:56:00 -
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UP
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.03 22:41:00 -
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holy crap! what was ccp thinking? 35$ for a freakin 60 day card.... i expected 30 was even hoping for like maybe 28 cuz its a bigger chunk..... I guess 350mil is accepaable but freakin 400-420 is rediculous.. im gunna keep bumpin this until the price comes down or the ccp kicks me from the forums. I suggest all the buyers gimme bumps too cuz you should let the sellers rip you off.
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Hong Lihua
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Posted - 2008.07.03 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Elamef FyreStar
$38.85/90=.4316666 cents per day $14.99/30=.4996666 cents per day
the new 60d cards cost $34.99/60 = .58316666 cents per day. Almost 10 cents per day more than the other two cards. 10 cents = approximatedly 1M ISK. Therefore if we take the known ISK per card and add 1M per day we get the following ( When i was selling GTCs I averaged 170M ISk per 30d card and 400M ISk per 90 day)
170,000,000/30=5,666,666 ISK per day add 1M = 6,666,666 x 60d = 399,999,960 ISK 400,000,000/90=4,444,444 ISK per day add 1M = 5,444,444 x 60d = 326,666,640 ISK
So roughly 330M - 400M is reasonable.
erm so why does GTC 30 cost more than the GTC 90 in your example?
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Cyrano Alt
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Posted - 2008.07.03 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Hong Lihua
erm so why does GTC 30 cost more than the GTC 90 in your example?
Huh? Bulk discount? If you pay three months at a time it's cheaper than paying a month at a time. They offer this incentive so that you end up staying longer and thus hopefully paying more in the long run. 30d cards have always been more than 90d cards.
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:32:00 -
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I'd like say one thing. That guy's math may be correct but it doesnt really apply :)
30 day time card = 150mil or 10cents per mil 90 day time card = 380mil or 10cents per mil
so following that exchange rate which is wat it really is the average for a 60 day card should be 350mil not that almost 420 ive been seeing on some orders
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Big Al
Stoat's Ultimate Carebear Adventure
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Posted - 2008.07.04 01:38:00 -
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A lot less people are willing to pay 35 dollars to 400m (at the high end) of isk.
The demand from both playerbase and RMT farmer base is still very strong (the farmers will pay whatever people are charging - this part of demand will not diminish).
Maybe some multi account players will start letting their accounts lapse often enough for CCP to see the error of their ways, but I really doubt it. These GTC ISK costs seem here to stay.
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Termopan
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Posted - 2008.07.04 02:43:00 -
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hold on ..why did they introduced this ******ed thing ? i meen it was good to have 30 / 60 / 90 day gtc's not only 60 day ones ? wtf and they cost like the 90's one ccp please get 30/90 days back into the game its really ****ing up our whole paying method
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Broke End
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Posted - 2008.07.04 05:37:00 -
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Well it just goes to show you that if it's not broken then somebody has to fix it anyways. I can still make them stick to my contract payment plan for $14.99 USD a month no matter how sick the US dollar gets against the Euro.
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Yi Jing
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Posted - 2008.07.04 05:48:00 -
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I don't know about you guys but I was only paying 140/30d and 340/90d. I'm too tired to do any math so I'll just let someone sell me a GTC based off those numbers right now if they wish
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.04 07:01:00 -
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hehe cheap is all i can tell ya.
Help keep the exchange ratio the same 10 cents per mil (350mil per card) Dont let buys take advantage of the NEW card just cuz its different.
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.04 17:14:00 -
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:)
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Takashi X2
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Posted - 2008.07.05 20:46:00 -
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Woot slowly but surely the prices are coming down slightly
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Clair Bear
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:01:00 -
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They shouldn't be.
Look at it this way. It'll take a lot more 60 day cards to satisfy the demand previously handled by 90 days. The number of real $s being pumped into GTC sales should remain relatively constant -- which means an up to 30% increase in GTC demand.
Wouldn't be shocked to see 450M for a 60 day be the normal price in a few more weeks and months as people figure this out.
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0zzy
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:28:00 -
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Means has come to search for time other project. Here not conformity the price-quality
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kookoo Head
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:36:00 -
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so my question is why did everyone change to 60 day cards if the 30 and 90 day cards are a better deal cuz if a 60 day card cost $35 and two 30Day cards cost $30 then why the **** is anyone wasting there money on 60 day cards????
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kookoo Head
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:40:00 -
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also the exchange rate in which you can earn isk in the game in your 30 60 or 90 day game period doesnt change therefore to charge so much for a mid lvl gtc is unnessesary
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Dybriss
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:47:00 -
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CCP made the prize changes ,couse they don't have dollars in their country but Euro shit.And what's going on with the dollar ? It stinks so much that the prize is going down.CCP earn less = prize for GTC will go higher.Stop thinking of good sides of why they're doing this.There is no good side of this shit,just prize changes.Get used to that ,pay or dine in hell.
Ow, and the timecode ISK prize's depends only on the demands as someone already said.Too many Chinese ***ots are buying GTC's,less and less people selling them, too many players are buying ISK to buy those GTC's and play for the half of prize,and too many ***ots wants to play for free.Is it so hard to understand?
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Dybriss
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Dybriss on 05/07/2008 21:53:48 Edited by: Dybriss on 05/07/2008 21:52:03 So you will get used to that,pay twice of the last year prize (In ISK) or quit the game.No one cares about that.
And stop screaming .."OMG What happend to prizes!?!?!?!?" If at least one half of EvE players stopped buying ISK from yellow guys it wouldnt happend.And just think :) ,you're f0cking lucky to even play EvE 4 free ,its one of the rarest games where you can pay with In-game currency,so stop crying.
Regards
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kookoo Head
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:52:00 -
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no i will just pay 14.95 with a credit card and then all these moofs that bought all these time cards will get there suckers to buy there cards and i will have LOTS of my own ISK
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Dybriss
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Posted - 2008.07.05 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: kookoo Head no i will just pay 14.95 with a credit card and then all these moofs that bought all these time cards will get there suckers to buy there cards and i will have LOTS of my own ISK
Good choice :) but don't wait to prize go down , more chinese will take your place to sit down(if you know what i mean)
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kookoo Head
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Posted - 2008.07.05 22:11:00 -
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yea but i have a kid and bills and a job and i cant sit on my a** 16 hours a day and play a game just to earn enought in game cash to play it some more?
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Dybriss
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Posted - 2008.07.05 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: kookoo Head yea but i have a kid and bills and a job and i cant sit on my a** 16 hours a day and play a game just to earn enought in game cash to play it some more?
I don't want from ya to do this.Btw. It's much easier :> to earn money for GTC in real then in-game (even for a kid) This is maybe few hours of work (maximum ;]) so yea feel free to do what you wanna do ,more pleasure from playing EvE (those who are paying by ISK won't understand it ,never)
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kookoo Head
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Posted - 2008.07.05 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: kookoo Head on 05/07/2008 22:21:27 i agree i have been playing for almost three years now and the fun that comes from earning your own way through the gaem is a lot better then buying isk and nerfing the game... its like cheating at starcraft...if your invincible then whats the point in the game right?
I mean i might as well make my own game were i have infinite powers and just go around blowing everything up... that would get soo boring and it ruins the game \for me and for everyone else who does play it just to play it
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Xanax Rex
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Posted - 2008.07.05 22:22:00 -
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DOWN WITH 60DAY GTCs!!! Gtc's were the only thing keeping my game running. And now they have gone too high!! PLUS you are paying the nearly same price (both ISK and RL) for a month less game time? Are we going to blame this on gas prices or something?
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