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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Hastur DragonTooth Other than the pilgrim I'd like to see the zealot boosted. It's very underpowered and could benefit from a 6th turret, more grid/cpu and a drone bay.
We didn't need that Muninn anyway.
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |
Leon 026
Caldari Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:14:00 -
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CCP nerfed our interdictors :(
I want them back : / -------
Once I was fallen, now I have wings
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Sabrosa Namaste
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hastur DragonTooth Other than the pilgrim I'd like to see the zealot boosted. It's very underpowered and could benefit from a 6th turret, more grid/cpu and a drone bay.
Yes! <_<
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Trevor Warps
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T stuff
Wow, I got to disagree with pretty much everything.
- The claw could use some better lock range, to be able to use arties and not just AC
- I would like to see the speed/agility of the crow and raptor swapped.
Besides that I have not experienced too much that needs fixing, aside the nano craze.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:35:00 -
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I like the muninn, but it sure encourages that "the grass is greener on the other side"-feeling sometimes...
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Stab Wounds
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Posted - 2008.07.04 19:50:00 -
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the only ship the realy needs buff is the pgilarm
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.04 20:31:00 -
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A lot of points Akita, but wow... give Matar a smaller artillery, give Amarr a bigger and more powerful pulse laser... and just change Matar fittings? I gotta say, that's kicking the Matar when they're down, lol.
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Zaran Darkstar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.04 20:48:00 -
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I wouldn't change anything. Thinks work fine for me as it is. I dpn't fly the crappy ships anyway so i don't care if they ever get fixed nor i will ask to be changed.
Some races have ship A crappy but ship B good. The point is not to make everything equal but discover what the crap is so to avoid it.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.04 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Boz Well A lot of points Akita, but wow... give Matar a smaller artillery, give Amarr a bigger and more powerful pulse laser... and just change Matar fittings? I gotta say, that's kicking the Matar when they're down, lol.
Laser beat catapult ? No ?
The nastiest thing about arties was that they're a pain to fit rather than lacking firepower (especially good alpha, which is always nice in fleet ops), or am I completely wrong ? Well, then give them a LARGER arty version... what, the 1600mm ?
The idea was to tighten the gap between AC and arty fitings, not widen it - since most minnie ships suffer either from crappy range with excessive fitings or ok range but crappy fittings (if it even fits at all).
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SUPPORT or CRITICIZE the issue of mineral and moon material balance !
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.04 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T The nastiest thing about arties was that they're a pain to fit rather than lacking firepower (especially good alpha, which is always nice in fleet ops), or am I completely wrong ?
You're wrong. You obviously don't browse ships & mods much anymore.
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.07.04 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zaran Darkstar I wouldn't change anything. Thinks work fine for me as it is. I dpn't fly the crappy ships anyway so i don't care if they ever get fixed nor i will ask to be changed.
Yes, excellent viewpoint. Lets all fly flavour of the month, and nothing else, so when we're all flying the one ship to rule them all, we can all be happy because we don't fly the ones that suck.
Or we could be a bit more constructive about it. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? |
Spartan dax
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.07.05 00:08:00 -
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I'd love for my Rook to loose the optimal jamming bonus and get something else, speed, agility, damage w/e. Anything except tanking really. Would make it a fun boat to fly.
Oh. And a smallish dronebay. Maybe some cap worth it's salt.
Some Caldari ships need to get rid of the 25% resist bonus for great versatile justice. What you say? Ferox with a 4 slot armour tank and no wasted shieldresist bonus? Well yes; I'll take it! One can dream I suppose.
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Herring
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.05 02:13:00 -
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stealth bombers - specifically allowing them to mount 2 bomb launchers.
Assalt frigs - mass reduction
pilgrim - bonus to passive tanking (hahahahaha no really, what is this ship for?)
Any missile ship - bonus to explosion velocity per level of some skill (I recommend the sacrelige, or the hawk, cause I can fly either Actually the widow wouldn't be a bad choice either).
Eos - 95mbit says it all
Myrmidion - ditto
black ops - ability to mount COC's
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.05 03:22:00 -
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Vargur - Needs better tank capability.
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Boz Well
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Posted - 2008.07.05 03:34:00 -
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Small faction ships need some CCP lovin too. Dramiel comes to mind.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.07.05 04:14:00 -
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1) Pilgrim - its needs something. . . 2) Artillery in general - they need more alpha and lower ROF to = same dps. 3) RSD - they need to be made more effective for the ships that specilize in their use. 4) Missles - they need to go faster, nothing should outrun them. 5) Invention - it needs a little more attention, spacifically way to increace the chance of BPC generation. ----
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Mr Ignitious
Gallente Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.07.05 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
...4) Missles - they need to go faster, nothing should outrun them...
all the other stuff is good, however this is important. Nano's are fine, there are counters, flying them takes some skill from the person at the keyboard + skills to do it right, and again, there are still plenty of counters.
I think that faster missiles would be just fine though, it should be more than enough to add to the list of why they aren't broken.
Liang, i are sad you want nano nerf
to draw away from the quote, my personal opinion:
1. Gallente Recons (either RSD range boni and/or strength) 2. AF's, dunno how, but something pllllz 3. Eve player intelligence Pilgrim. 4. Faction cruisers and below 5. The other odds and ends ppl mentioned.
Its in order of personal preference/importance as i fly primarily gallente (and REALLY miss being liked in an arazu over a myrm) and wish my ishkur had a purpose other than the occasional ratting run.
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Herring
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.07.05 05:50:00 -
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Edited by: Herring on 05/07/2008 05:51:44 Edited by: Herring on 05/07/2008 05:51:16
Originally by: Mr Ignitious
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
...4) Missles - they need to go faster, nothing should outrun them...
all the other stuff is good, however this is important. Nano's are fine, there are counters, flying them takes some skill from the person at the keyboard + skills to do it right, and again, there are still plenty of counters.
I think that faster missiles would be just fine though, it should be more than enough to add to the list of why they aren't broken.
There are counters to nanoships, but they're certainly not plentiful. I do agree with you that they shouldn't be nerfed however, faster missiles as a buff are not the complete solution. Considerably faster explosion velocity, along with slightly faster missiles, absolutely.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.05 06:02:00 -
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1) Pilgrim. Give it more CPU, maybe some grid a bit of range on the nos/neuts. 2) Retribution (and athe other AFs) Guys, guys guys, let's give a ship only one mid slot, lololololololol. 3) Muninn. 2 utility hi-slots that I can't fit and a drone bay aren't really things I look for in a sniper ship. It is the worst hac. 4) Black Ops. They are pretty useless at the moment. 5) Meh, the rest of the ships in EVE I am pretty much happy with, I might do small changes like boost the grid of the prophecy/maller/omen and maybe boost the RSD bonus on gallente recons. But otherwise I like the overall balance in EVE atm. --
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
ViperVenom
Labteck Corporation LTD.
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Posted - 2008.07.05 06:35:00 -
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Edited by: ViperVenom on 05/07/2008 06:38:05 He goes my Noob whine.....
1)Give All Minnie ship back there OMFGBBQ Alpha strike 2) Tempest..that all that i need to say +1 turret 3)Claw lock range/PG is very very bad 4)Nag it has the most weapon hard point low low dps plus bad bad tank CCP fix 5)All T2 Battleships need a rework..Yes all of them Maurders are not good(well 2 of them) Blk Ops utter fail 6) Blockade Runners should be able to fit a MwdII and small tank at once. 7)ALL AF need 20-25% less mass and at least 20% more dps 8)Fix NOS/Neuts so that on NOS/Neut dedicated ship it works as it did b4 the change 9)Fix Damps so that on Damp dedicated ship it works as it did b4 the change 10) Triage.... Utter fail 11)Interdictors they were fun ships till they got there wings clipped 12) Belicose need more PG and 1 more Mid 13)NH need some thing at this point a Drake out preforms it for the price 14) Stealth Bomber should be able to warp cloaked.. Hence the name Stealth
I think that sums it up...
Thats how i really feel Pwnage new and Improved! Role Players.. The same D&D kids but now they are 30 and balding.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.05 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Ignitious Liang, i are sad you want nano nerf
A nano nerf is inevitable. I'll settle for a Matari boost to "counter" it at this point.
-Liang -- It was an honor to participate in the Insurgency campaign in Branch. o7 to all involved. |
ViperVenom
Labteck Corporation LTD.
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Posted - 2008.07.05 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Mr Ignitious Liang, i are sad you want nano nerf
A nano nerf is inevitable. I'll settle for a Matari boost to "counter" it at this point.
-Liang
I agree.. A Nano nerf is comming.. Liang didnt flame my above post counting my blessings Pwnage new and Improved! Role Players.. The same D&D kids but now they are 30 and balding.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.05 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 05/07/2008 07:56:51 Nighthawk - Swap Low for Med, Give more PG (ATM it only has 10 more than a stabber), Give Exp.Vel bonus
Crane - Give slightly more PG so you don't need fitting mods to fit an MWD and a single other module
Caracal - More PG
Cerb/Rook/Falcon - More Cap
can you tell I fly Caldari?
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Orakkus
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Posted - 2008.07.05 08:26:00 -
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Edited by: Orakkus on 05/07/2008 08:29:09 All I can comment about is the Minmatar ships, so here's my list:
1. Assault Frigates - Give them a reason to be in the game, something other than a very expensive tackler. 2. Muninn - Been mentioned before, move one or both of the high slots to mid first, low second. 3. Tempest - +1 Turret sounds like a good idea, but a general boost to artillery would be much better, either by a larger ammo clip, a faster reload time, or just simply more damage. 4. Naglfar - Can't say for sure, but a split weapon bonus makes me really cringe. Add to that very vocal and unanimous viewpoints that the Naglfar isn't close to competitive with a full skillset, indicates to me that this needs to have a serious review. 5. Bellicose - +1 Missile launcher (-1 turret).
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Red Thunder
Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.07.05 11:32:00 -
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pilgrim (curse is fine, i solo in it all the time) AFs large projectiles caldari could use a better hauler
Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines |
Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.05 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Yuri Vladomirovic There are a lots of topics about single ship, which need a buff, but I think only the loudest trolls got some attention.
So Im asking you: Which ships would you buff in a priority order, like: 1. w, cause its a bigger crap, than x 2. x, cause its a crap 3. y, that looks like crap 4. x, I hate it, cause Its too hard to fit 5. ...
Your EVE needs you!!!
1. Any ship i'm currently flying because I suck at Eve PVP 2. Gallente Recons because they are relegated to supporting the support. 3. Raven, cause it makes me want to gouge out my eyes every time I see one. 4. Nighthawk because it's sorely lacking in fitting.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.05 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Ignitious
Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky
...4) Missles - they need to go faster, nothing should outrun them...
all the other stuff is good, however this is important. Nano's are fine, there are counters, flying them takes some skill from the person at the keyboard + skills to do it right, and again, there are still plenty of counters.
Missiles, once touted to be the "alaways hit for full damage" weapons are at a fair disadvantage when facing off against nano ships. Medium class missiles are easily evaded with pure speed (unrigged a mere 3500 m/s pushes you past invulnerable to precision heavies), large missiles are entirely useless when a non nano cruiser so much as clicks on a MWD. The ONE weapon missile users have to fight the nano scourge is the precision light missile, a frigate class munition. While there was some relief in the form of rigs (that one can rarely actually spare the fitting for more than one of unless it's being used with assault launchers) the rigs also allowed the nano ships to speed up as well, virtually negating the boost.
I'd like to see either a reevaluation of the speeds of various missiles and explosion velocity (especially for the precision varient) or perhaps a missile equivalent to a tracking computer.
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BiggestT
Caldari Fun Inc
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Posted - 2008.07.05 14:20:00 -
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1) nighthawk..10 more pwg than stabber and drake mimicry plus uzless precision bonus and fitting problems make me sad 2) rockets = lol 3) precision of medium t2 missiles 4) AF's = lol 5) selected recons: pilgrim, rook, arazu, lechesis 6) tempest and/or large projectile buff 7) nag = lol 8) citadel torps (can be smartbombed and destroyed LOL)
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000Hunter000
Gallente Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2008.07.05 14:21:00 -
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Marauders - I mean cmon!!! Mucho expensive and only good for pve and not very good at that either, mebbe give them all en extra turret/launcherslot. Black Ops - less fuel need or a special fuelbay please? ability to use the covert ops cloak would be nice. _______________________________________________________ CCP, let us pay the online shop with Direct Debit!!!
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drakk3n
Minmatar LSP Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.05 14:25:00 -
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Buff the Minmatar Stiletto, it's measly powergrid (30 base) is useless on an interceptor, and it needs another highslot and another turret hardpoint. It is hopelessly weak in inty vs inty fights.
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