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Jas Dor
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:01:00 -
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A lot of this article is irrelevant to EvE http://www.secureworks.com/research/falsepositive.php with more discussion here Linkagehttp://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/07/07/1824228.shtml. The high points though somebody is being prosecuted in US Federal Court for using a fake identity to get access to a non-financial website (in this case a fake Myspace profile). Old story bad facts make for bad law but if you're running a major corp or an alliance you're going to want to follow this (as the eventual outcome might include the question, is spying on somebodies EvE forum a violation of federal law).
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Helen
coracao ardente
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:08:00 -
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lolmerica
also ibtl
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:10:00 -
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United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Helen lolmerica
Holy shit
I was writing my post and didn't see yours, that's pretty good actualy, convo me ingame so I can save your gaming experience.
(Good luck with that I forgot my account password!)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Moon Kitten
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:15:00 -
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You are broadcasting an ip address.
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Boom ChickaBoom
Caldari Friendly Pod Poppers
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Your an idiot. Calling and african american a Ni**er will get you jail time let alone shooting one.
Lets point out some fine laws from the econimic power house mother russia
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Gilmoore
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
ITT people make stupid remarks.
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touchvill
The Pikey Rebellion II
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Gilmoore
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
ITT people make stupid remarks.
ITT sensitive americans! ----------
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Rehmes
Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system. ***Where am I?*** |
Nick Curso
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
More sensitive americans.
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Rehmes
Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Nick Curso
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
More sensitive americans.
I do live in the U.S. but i am not a citizen. I am Cuban. TBH its not a matter of sensitivity but more of an issue with people making comments based on ignorance. While Americans tend to be the 1st ones to make ignorant comments about just everything beyond their borders it doesn't make it better for anyone else to do so as well. I try to take an impartial view no matter what the situation. Either case this thread is soon-if it hasn't already-going to turn into a nationalist chest beating fest which I don't plan to be part of. ***Where am I?*** |
Straight Chillen
Gallente Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:43:00 -
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Edited by: Straight Chillen on 08/07/2008 16:44:20 i think you guys are missing KEY elements of this story. This case isnt simply about using false identification. This woman iirc, set up a false account in some one elses name whom, she had a personal vendetta against. She used pictures of the victim and posted all kinds of slanderous things.
This has to do with fraud and slander. Signing up for someone internets spaceship forum does not entail the same thing as making a fake myspace page for you neighbor, filling it out with her info and pictures, and saying she likes group sex and BDSM or some crazy shit.
Also, part of the Terms & Agreements for signing up a myspace profile, specifically says that fraudulent use will be prosecuted. If you put something like this in a clause in the T&A for your forums, then you would have a way to legally prosecute some one for spying. Highly doubt it would be worth even pursuing tho, Cuz really youd just look like a jack ass on CNN
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:44:00 -
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ITT a Russian tries to opine on the rule of law?
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
While I wouldn't be using Russia as an example of justice being done, the US certainly doesn't have much integrity in that regard considering the politcal nature of their highest court (which has supreme authority over everything in the country).
When a democratic president appoints a judge anit-roe v. wade or a republican appoints one that's pro, I'll shut up, but until then; the only thing America can say is that it's good at hiding the biased nature of its justice system (how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?) --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Rajere
No Trademark The OSS
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:47:00 -
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You cannot commit libel against an e-thugging internets persona/spaceship avatar. So hacking someone's forum and posing as that character has no relevance to hacking someone's myspace and posing as that person. NOTR How to Fail at Eve
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Astasia Orian
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:51:00 -
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Is this all cos of that woman who metagamed a girl into suicide by posing as an eboyfriend and telling her she was fat or something?
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Rehmes
Minmatar RillaCorp Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
While I wouldn't be using Russia as an example of justice being done, the US certainly doesn't have much integrity in that regard considering the politcal nature of their highest court (which has supreme authority over everything in the country).
When a democratic president appoints a judge anit-roe v. wade or a republican appoints one that's pro, I'll shut up, but until then; the only thing America can say is that it's good at hiding the biased nature of its justice system (how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?)
Believe me i know, I study Law for a living. The U.S. is by no means the best example for the perfect Justice system. What i was merely pointing out was that before one goes out of their way to bash a foreign country's Justice system make sure you know more of your own and hope it is in any way more fair. ***Where am I?*** |
Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Rajere You cannot commit libel against an e-thugging internets persona/spaceship avatar. So hacking someone's forum and posing as that character has no relevance to hacking someone's myspace and posing as that person.
So if someone were to start a web-page that earned revenue via advertising and relied on their character's in-game reputation in order for people to trust their service (and thus provide them with the traffic needed for advertising revenue), it wouldn't be libel if someone somehow impersonated them for the purpose of assasinating their reputation and by doing so cause irreprible harm to their business?
I'm not saying it would, but its probably enough to land the person who committed the offense in a civil court if not a criminal one. --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Lorna Loot
Caldari Nox Eternus
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Boom ChickaBoom
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Your an idiot. Calling and african american a Ni**er will get you jail time let alone shooting one.
Lets point out some fine laws from the econimic power house mother russia
Wrong, they would shoot you before you get to jail.
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.07.08 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Haradgrim
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
While I wouldn't be using Russia as an example of justice being done, the US certainly doesn't have much integrity in that regard considering the politcal nature of their highest court (which has supreme authority over everything in the country).
When a democratic president appoints a judge anit-roe v. wade or a republican appoints one that's pro, I'll shut up, but until then; the only thing America can say is that it's good at hiding the biased nature of its justice system (how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?)
Believe me i know, I study Law for a living. The U.S. is by no means the best example for the perfect Justice system. What i was merely pointing out was that before one goes out of their way to bash a foreign country's Justice system make sure you know more of your own and hope it is in any way more fair.
And my point is that as citizens of the world, it is our duty to point out the flaws and inadequecies of all justice systems in the hope that one day true justice may prevail..... remind me again why the US would not commit to joining the U.N.'s International Criminal Court? --
Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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Derilus
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:04:00 -
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200+ year old real democratic government ftw!!!
cheer on chaps...
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Straight Chillen
Gallente Solar Wind Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:05:00 -
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After a search i found a little more detail. This woman Lori, The defendant, Fradulently signed up a myspace account with the intent to cause emotional harm to the victim (megan). She incited many vulger lies about this young girl. And eventually it go to the point where Lori posted "The World Would be a better place with out you"
After that message the girl Hung her self.
I think ALL of you are missing the bigger point.
This isnt about bull shit government laws, This is about some 46 year old ***** who felt it was neccessary to drive a 13 year old girl to Suicide, for her own twisted pleasure
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/05/16/1210765091402.html
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Grath Telkin
Amarr Evolving Paradigms
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:05:00 -
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(how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?)
Seriously? Never.
As someone who's spent a good time in court as a defendant in my past, I can promise you this NEVER crossed my mind. Things that DID cross my mind were: Is he a jerk by nature? Is he in a bad mood? Is my lawyer and idiot? Is my lawyer in a good mood? How much of a ***** is this PA? How many of the people in this room are deciding the fate of my future, and are total idiots?
Their political affiliations rarely are taken into account at any time other than the Supreme Court. But thats a moot point, as most laws are originally made by...hold on, this is the amazing part: Democrats and Republicans.
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lilrascal sinq
Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim
And my point is that as citizens of the world, it is our duty to point out the flaws and inadequecies of all justice systems in the hope that one day true justice may prevail..... remind me again why the US would not commit to joining the U.N.'s International Criminal Court?
Citizens of the world? Come on now, that is stretching it a little far IMO. Altruism FTW.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Haradgrim Edited by: Haradgrim on 08/07/2008 16:51:52
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
While I wouldn't be using Russia as an example of justice being done, the US certainly doesn't have much integrity in that regard considering the politcal nature of their highest court (which has supreme authority over everything in the country).
When a democratic president appoints a judge that is anti-roe v. wade or a republican appoints one that's pro, I'll shut up, but until then; the only thing America can say is that it's good at hiding the biased nature of its justice system (how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?)
Not to nitpick, but I think David Souter and probably Anthony Kennedy are both judges who have upheld Roe vs Wade despite being appointed by the Old Bush and Reagan respectively. And former Justice Sandra Day O'Conner was also appointed by Reagan and I think she supported Roe vs Wade as well.
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Kalmanaka
Caldari Shade.
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kalmanaka on 08/07/2008 17:09:41 FUD ftl.
For a very long time it has been a crime to use a false identity for the purpose of committing a crime. The OP would have you believe that this could effect everyone in Eve which is simply not true. The purpose of your fake identity would have to be to commit a crime, and no pirating does not count.
If you create a fake identity for the purpose of playing a game, and then LATER commit a crime with it, this does not apply to you either.
This is what happens when you blindly believe the crap you read on the internet. OP is full of FAIL.
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
russian human rights.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:18:00 -
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so which goonie is going to take one for the team and blame it on bob?
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Harley Dare
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Haradgrim Edited by: Haradgrim on 08/07/2008 16:51:52
Originally by: Rehmes
Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
Laws are man-made so they are not perfect in nature. The U.S. may have some very idiotic laws, but before you go spewing nonsense about things you don't understand do try and look at your own country's amazing justice system.
While I wouldn't be using Russia as an example of justice being done, the US certainly doesn't have much integrity in that regard considering the politcal nature of their highest court (which has supreme authority over everything in the country).
When a democratic president appoints a judge that is anti-roe v. wade or a republican appoints one that's pro, I'll shut up, but until then; the only thing America can say is that it's good at hiding the biased nature of its justice system (how does a registered democrat feel about having a case tried by judge who was elected as a republican representitive?)
Not to nitpick, but I think David Souter and probably Anthony Kennedy are both judges who have upheld Roe vs Wade despite being appointed by the Old Bush and Reagan respectively. And former Justice Sandra Day O'Conner was also appointed by Reagan and I think she supported Roe vs Wade as well.
And another http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Roberts and that one from Georgie Jr. himself. Your silence is appreciated Haradgrim ;).
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Jordan Musgrat
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2008.07.08 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega United States of lolerica.
Where shooting afro-americans won't get you trouble, but using a fake identity to get access to a "fake myspace profile" will send your ass in jail!
ok I'll admit, this was good. Put a smile on my face. -----------
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