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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:13:00 -
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*BOGGLES!!* __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |
Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:14:00 -
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iT IS A MIStERY!
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:15:00 -
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Because their mass is insignificant to the ship mass.
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 09/07/2008 18:15:40
Originally by: Viqtoria iT IS A MIStERY!
While everyone else scadaddles Scoob, we'll handle the food cleanup! *hehhehe*
Rea! Reheheeheheh! __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 09/07/2008 18:16:49
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 18:15:55
Because their mass is insignificant to the ship mass.
I've seen a car slow down because a fat woman was in it .
Edit - Doh you edited! But my point remains valid! __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 18:15:28
Because their mass is insignificant to the ship mass.
When was the last time you saw a tank slow down because it had a driver?
wen the driver putted his fut on teh brake
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Dickens Cider
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:17:00 -
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Because they have no mass, only volume
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:17:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 18:19:17
Originally by: Viqtoria
wen the driver putted his fut on teh brake
Damn, I edited that line out quickly because I thought of that myself, but you beat me...
I couldnt come up with a good example for an object having minor weight in the tank...
--- Its dead, Jim.
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Viqtoria
Caldari Groping Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 09/07/2008 18:15:40
Originally by: Viqtoria iT IS A MIStERY!
While everyone else scadaddles Scoob, we'll handle the food cleanup! *hehhehe*
Rea! Reheheeheheh!
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Kepall
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:23:00 -
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Cause all the haulers are drafting the NANO ships ?
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:25:00 -
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*shrugs* ...
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Siberys
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kepall Cause all the haulers are drafting the NANO ships ?
ACK CONSPIRACY!!
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 18:15:55
Because their mass is insignificant to the ship mass.
Except compare how much your ship slows down when you add 1600mm plates to it, and then think how many you can fit in the cargohold without causing a mass increase...
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Titus Gallant
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Slanty McGarglefist *BOGGLES!!*
Well it's a good question considering the mass increases .. but ... I would be forced to then ask why do ships have max velocities ? I suppose the obvious answer is ... it's a game, the laws of physics must be bent to make it playable.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:33:00 -
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The magical engines in EVE are impeded by volume, not mass. Thus, nothing inside the ship affects them. -
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:33:00 -
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When did this change happen?
Granted it has been a couple of years since I was using GSC to increase my hauling capacity, but I know they had a huge effect on the handling of my ship.
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:37:00 -
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Why does EVE Space have an "Up" and a "Down" when real space does not?
Why do Spaceships in EVE behave as if they were oceangoing submarines flying through some viscous medium?
Why do Spaceships in EVE simply bounce off one another like ping-pong balls rather than smack into each other with expected destruction?
Why do we pass through supposedly solid objects while in warp?
ANSWER:
This is the EVE universe. It follows it's own physical rules that are occasionally unlike the ones we have in our own universe in order to facilitate easier and simpler game play. Try not to let it get to you and just enjoy the game.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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Kage Toshimado
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Viqtoria
Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2008 18:15:28
Because their mass is insignificant to the ship mass.
When was the last time you saw a tank slow down because it had a driver?
wen the driver putted his fut on teh brake
Ex Tank Driver here. No such thing as a foot break in a tank. Even fully loaded with rounds and ammuntion and the rack full of gear, my tank always cruised like a caddy.
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sphynx Stormlord Except compare how much your ship slows down when you add 1600mm plates to it, and then think how many you can fit in the cargohold without causing a mass increase...
Looking at the attributes plates don't have a "mass" they have a "mass addition"
Try filling your cargo hold with Construction Blocks and tell me how your indy handles.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen Why does EVE Space have an "Up" and a "Down" when real space does not?
Ease of navigation
Originally by: Bish Ounen Why do Spaceships in EVE behave as if they were oceangoing submarines flying through some viscous medium?
They use engines which aren't based on the third law of motion.
Originally by: Bish Ounen Why do Spaceships in EVE simply bounce off one another like ping-pong balls rather than smack into each other with expected destruction?
Magnetic fields induced by the ships hulls when in close proximity.
Originally by: Bish Ounen Why do we pass through supposedly solid objects while in warp?
We're in a depleted vacuum bubble.
Originally by: Bish Ounen ANSWER:
i dunno lol
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Bish Ounen
Gallente Omni-Core Freedom Fighters Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:44:00 -
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Soo.. Crumplecorn. You answer my "questions" with a restatement of MY OWN ANSWER and then change my ACTUAL answer to "I dunno, lol".
You not get enough coffee today, or what? That was a HORRIBLE troll. You know you can do better than that.
Tactical Logistics using the last T1 Frigate hull!
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stunna13
Caldari Archon Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:46:00 -
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shouldnt all ship go the same speed b/c in space there is no gravity... so there for no resistance... so therefore a thrust in one direction should be able to push any object the same speed regardless of weight(which there is none)?
well there it is... i want to speed tank with me CNR... make this happen ccp make this happen... _________________ The BIGLottery |
Micheal Dietrich
Caldari Terradyne Networks
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen
Why do Spaceships in EVE simply bounce off one another like ping-pong balls rather than smack into each other with expected destruction?
Oh god I wish, that would be awesome. Huge battleships slowly ramming each other like a scene in firefly or seeing a interdictor flatten itself against a hauler. That would be the shit right there.
Originally by: Calvin Firenze ****ing filter
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Faife
Minmatar Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:48:00 -
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because objects in space are weightless
duh.
before you ask, that's also why they come to a stop when the engine turns off.
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Plumpy McPudding
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Faife because objects in space are weightless
duh.
before you ask, that's also why they come to a stop when the engine turns off.
That doesn't make any sense! Well actually it does, but the heavier your ship is *more cargo* the more force is required to get your ship going! Hence, you're slower!!
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bish Ounen troll
What? -
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Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Faife because objects in space are weightless
Or more accurately, modules are massless, so are most other things that you would commonly load into your cargo hold. There are only a few things that have mass, and those that do will affect your ship's handling.
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Titus Gallant
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Posted - 2008.07.09 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Faife because objects in space are weightless
duh.
before you ask, that's also why they come to a stop when the engine turns off.
They may be weightless but they still have mass ...
so neither of these statements are true
f = ma
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Fabien Aldric
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:03:00 -
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Edited by: Fabien Aldric on 09/07/2008 19:02:59 physics?
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RigelKentaurus
Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Plumpy McPudding That doesn't make any sense! Well actually it does, but the heavier your ship is *more cargo* the more force is required to get your ship going! Hence, you're slower!!
The mass of a spaceship in vacuum only affects its acceleration.
I integrated the law of motion equation using a simple model for a fluid and came to the same conclusion. _________
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Horny girl1
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:38:00 -
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OMG what an NOOB Threat !! Damm, why didn't u ask...who has black underweare, please put your hands up ?
In space there is no gravity !! Hope u are not wow player.... only wow players ask such stupid quastion.
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RigelKentaurus
Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Horny girl1 In space there is no gravity !! Hope u are not wow player.... only wow players ask such stupid quastion.
Wrong, even if something can be put into orbit and then seem weightless, there's still gravity.
Without gravity anything in space would fly in straight line. _________
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Horny girl1
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Posted - 2008.07.09 19:56:00 -
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Edited by: Horny girl1 on 09/07/2008 19:56:00 yes true... if u are close to space objects which are bigger than u... but u need to be xy distance from them if u want to fell gravity...and all obyects which are flying throuout space are flying in line...
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Eschiava Q
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:15:00 -
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The effect of gravity only diminishes with distance, but never reaches 0. Any object in space is in constant free fall, falling, more or less toward the strongest gravitational body. The direction of fall can be altered by other gravitational bodies. It can also be altered by some internal or external force, such as a ship's engines. But movement is almost never in a straight line. If you are far from any gravitational body it may be close to a straight line, but it will never be exact.
The OP's question is answered by the explanation of game mechanics, any item in the hold of a ship is massless, thus the 1600mm plate has no effect on the total mass of the ship.
I have still thought it strange though that this should be so, if the ship can be affected by the mass of installed plate, why not by the cumulative mass of cargo?
That and, why does the ship slow automatically when I stop thrusting? But then I realized, do I really want to be forced to deal with thrust vectors? No, I think that would get old pretty fast!
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RigelKentaurus
Flying Tartiflette Caldari Deep Space Industral
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Posted - 2008.07.09 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Horny girl1 but u need to be xy distance from them if u want to fell gravity...and all obyects which are flying throuout space are flying in line...
It's just how things seem to happen, but actually it's a matter of scale. Nothing really goes in straight line.
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