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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:14:00 -
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Really,
I haven't seem or could make a single useful ship setup using this, and I've tried a lot.
How should it be tweaked to worth something? Or is it already useful?
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Ctp Hawkeye
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ctp Hawkeye on 11/07/2008 03:17:05 Civilian sheild booster is crapper.
Edit : Actually, probably not.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:28:00 -
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You see them sometimes on drake setups, they use less cpu/grid than a LSE...
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:34:00 -
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I love shield rechargers for my passive shield tanked ships.
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Lividicus
Caldari Villains By Necessity
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:44:00 -
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in some cases a shield recharger II is better than an LSE on passive tanks.
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 03:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lividicus in some cases a shield recharger II is better than an LSE on passive tanks.
Can you please show me at least 1 of these cases?
A link to a Batteclinic setup is enough.
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lividicus in some cases a shield recharger II is better than an LSE on passive tanks.
Or in some cases you can't squeeze in another better tank module. My Drake uses 2 LSE 3 Hardners 1 shield recharger. Some day I may be able to sqeeze that 3rd LSE in but until then. . .
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Ambrosious Martin
Son of Man
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 11/07/2008 04:32:34 a quick passive fit drake for example totally efted but serves the purpose [Drake, New Setup 2] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II Shield Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
a passive tank of like 900dps(over 1200 vs. HAIL).. crap 190dps tho. you decide!
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Derek Sigres
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 11/07/2008 04:32:34 a quick passive fit drake for example totally efted but serves the purpose [Drake, New Setup 2] Fairly Standard Drake Fit a passive tank of like 900dps(over 1200 vs. HAIL).. crap 190dps tho. you decide!
That's an extreme exampe to be perfectly honest. You'll find that you can do better with 3 LSE 3 Hardners and drop the rechargers altogether.
My drake uses 2 BCS' (I've often considered adding a 3rd because the tank would still be adequate for my purposes and I only do 378 DPS including drones) Without the BCS I doubt the ship can actually run level 4's (the ONLY reason you'd need that much tank)
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Ambrosious Martin
Son of Man
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Derek Sigres
Originally by: Ambrosious Martin Edited by: Ambrosious Martin on 11/07/2008 04:32:34 a quick passive fit drake for example totally efted but serves the purpose [Drake, New Setup 2] Fairly Standard Drake Fit a passive tank of like 900dps(over 1200 vs. HAIL).. crap 190dps tho. you decide!
That's an extreme exampe to be perfectly honest. You'll find that you can do better with 3 LSE 3 Hardners and drop the rechargers altogether.
My drake uses 2 BCS' (I've often considered adding a 3rd because the tank would still be adequate for my purposes and I only do 378 DPS including drones) Without the BCS I doubt the ship can actually run level 4's (the ONLY reason you'd need that much tank)
I love how you added words into my post in your quoting of me... and you need lots of tank when your the bait. and to answer the OP is the whole reason I responded to the post, so do me and everyone else a favor and crawl back under your bridge, before your alligator mouth gets your canairy ass into trouble.
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Ess Erbe
Caldari Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:56:00 -
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The SR II is *far* from the worst module in the game, and it certainly has its uses on some setups.
Let us speak of 50mm plates and capacitor battery balance, shall we?
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 04:59:00 -
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Edited by: Vibora BR on 11/07/2008 05:00:05 Your setup a little tweaked, it tanks 997 against yours 919 and has 83.637 against yours 59.733 effective hitpoints.
So until now I have no profs that the Shield Recharges worth anything.
Anyway thank you for your reply as this is a nice setup.
[Drake, New Setup 2] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:20:00 -
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ROFL, good luck running 3 invuls while having 4 SPRs fited (I'm not even going to say anything about the fury missiles)... and the Small energy neutralizer makes it so much more "LOL" indeed.
Are you sure you're not a troll ? Because the alternative is you're a bit slow...
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Vibora BR
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:23:00 -
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No Luck required, the difference between use 2 or 3 hardeners is just 1 minute.
So for the this comparison it changes nothing.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Vibora BR No Luck required, the difference between use 2 or 3 hardeners is just 1 minute.
see edit
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The mineral/moonstuff balance || *THE* nanofix
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Ess Erbe
Caldari Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:33:00 -
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Fit 4 SPR Drake.
Go to a system with a 100 AU warp between two stellar objects.
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Liang Nuren
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.07.11 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Vibora BR Edited by: Vibora BR on 11/07/2008 05:00:05 Your setup a little tweaked, it tanks 997 against yours 919 and has 83.637 against yours 59.733 effective hitpoints.
So until now I have no profs that the Shield Recharges worth anything.
Anyway thank you for your reply as this is a nice setup.
[Drake, New Setup 2] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Small Energy Neutralizer II
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Your setup has 9 minutes of capacitor. Mine has 22 minutes of capacitor. Guess which one actually works.
[Drake, Full Passive Tank] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
This lasts 21 minutes of capacitor.
Or even better:
[Drake, Full Passive Tank] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Shield Recharger II Shield Recharger II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Skirmish Warfare Link - Interdiction Maneuvers
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Seriously, the Shield Recharger II was custom made for Drakes. :)
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Etho Demerzel
Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone
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Posted - 2008.07.11 06:23:00 -
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I like mine. It has a good compromise between damage and tank for missions and it permaruns:
[Drake, Missioning] Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Shield Recharger II Shield Recharger II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot]
Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
Tanks 557 dps and inflicts 321 dps
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2008.07.11 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 11/07/2008 06:43:52 ItÆs a shame at one time passive tanks split into two forms. Shield recharges for HP regen tanks and extenders for buffer tanks. Now with all the extender buffs you hardly see shield rechargers. Still there is one use for them http://www.dissonance-corp.com/Files/14seconds.jpgist fun seeing your shields charge up so fast.
Sometimes I take a domi with just a max row of SPR's, shield rechargers and purgers for missions then one gang warlink for resistance in my fleet. A Domi setup like this has a 600dps+ tank and under 50seconds shield recharge, from 0% to 100% that fast is fun. Yes its weaker DPS tank wise then a normal passive tank Domi setup but it works so I donÆt care.
ôFit 4 SPR Drake. Go to a system with a 100 AU warp between two stellar objects. ô My domi has yet to have a problem with 7 SPRÆs so why would a Drake have problems with 4?
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Furb Killer
Gallente USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.07.11 08:09:00 -
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Because a drake uses relative much more cap when warping than a domi? (not 100% sure about it).
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Karanth
Gallente Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2008.07.11 09:08:00 -
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ECCM Multispecs are the most worthless, unless you are Jove.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.07.11 09:24:00 -
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micro-smartbombs, frigate plating, afterburners ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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Daftex Muleson
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2008.07.11 10:04:00 -
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Rig slots on a Frigate....I mean who in their right mind would ever contemplate putting a rig on a T1 frig
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Anubis Xian
Reavers
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Posted - 2008.07.11 10:14:00 -
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I suppose if you wanted to passive tank a capital ship...
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George Carsonygen
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Posted - 2008.07.11 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony afterburners
You can't use Microwarps in mission space, they also are pretty useful in assault frigs to get some speed while keeping the signature down.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2008.07.11 10:49:00 -
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Passive tanked rattlesnake benefits from rechargers more than from LSE's as it already has lol omg shield amount. On certain other passive tanked ships they will be useful as well when you dont have the grid for LSE's or when you're using extender rigs.
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P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.11 11:50:00 -
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Regenerative Plating. I'm confident there has to be a ship/setup that can benefit from them. First thought would suggest it's capital ships.
But.... yeah, you know the numbers.
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FT Diomedes
Gallente Ductus Exemplo
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Posted - 2008.07.11 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Vibora BR Really,
I haven't seem or could make a single useful ship setup using this, and I've tried a lot.
How should it be tweaked to worth something? Or is it already useful?
Shield Recharger is better than the Shield Flux Coil. ------------
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Stuart Price
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:36:00 -
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Auto-targeter. "I got soul but I'm not a soldier" |
P'uck
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Posted - 2008.07.11 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price Auto-targeter.
let's you increase your ships maximum target capacity (provided you have the skills).
believe it or not, some people swear by it.
and what's funny: i think not many people know that a sigamp II also gives you an extra target.
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