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Zarithas
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:43:00 -
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Okay, I haven't played EVE in about a year, and I just returned. I see all of this complaining about nanos, and I don't think I quite understand it.
The Nanofiber Internal Structure has been around since day one, hasn't it? Why is everyone complaining about it now?
All it does is increase speed at the cost of some hull points.
So, let me get this straight: people are complaining because people have fast ships, or is there some other part of this argument that I don't quite understand?
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:44:00 -
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Posting in a nano thread. -
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Zarithas
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn Posting in a nano thread.
That is incredibly rude, sir. There will be no trolling in my thread.
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S3dINSTBE
Just Another Indy Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:45:00 -
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They're *****ing about nano fitted ships because they are too fast for them to catch.
They want an I win button but don't want anyone else to have one
WAAAAHHH WAAAAHHHH
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn Posting in a nano thread.
That is incredibly rude, sir. There will be no trolling in my thread.
My trolls are nano'd, your weapons are ineffective. -
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Zarithas
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn Posting in a nano thread.
That is incredibly rude, sir. There will be no trolling in my thread.
My trolls are nano'd, your weapons are ineffective.
Well shit.
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn Posting in a nano thread.
That is incredibly rude, sir. There will be no trolling in my thread.
My trolls are nano'd, your weapons are ineffective.
Well shit.
See sig for genuine answer.
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Tippia
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:51:00 -
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People aren't so much complaining about fast ships, but rather about the effects of that speed. You'll see two main variants of complaints on the topic:
1. Speed makes nanoships impossible to kill. 2. Their speed makes them able to disengage from combat at will.
Argument #1 is in many ways ill informed and creates tons of flames. Argument #2 generally generates some grumbling agreement across the board, and is an actual gameplay problem (cf. WCS).
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Zarithas
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zarithas on 13/07/2008 21:52:56
Originally by: Tippia People aren't so much complaining about fast ships, but rather about the effects of that speed. You'll see two main variants of complaints on the topic:
1. Speed makes nanoships impossible to kill. 2. Their speed makes them able to disengage from combat at will.
Argument #1 is in many ways ill informed and creates tons of flames. Argument #2 generally generates some grumbling agreement across the board, and is an actual gameplay problem (cf. WCS).
What about webs?
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Zarithas
Originally by: Crumplecorn Posting in a nano thread.
That is incredibly rude, sir. There will be no trolling in my thread.
My trolls are nano'd, your weapons are ineffective.
Well shit.
See sig for genuine answer.
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DesuSigs
Sou desu nee?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn See sig for genuine answer.
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DesuSigs
Win.
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Zarithas
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit
Originally by: Crumplecorn See sig for genuine answer.
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DesuSigs
Win.
Your mom's superfluous.
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Kil'Roy
Minmatar The Rat Patrol
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Posted - 2008.07.13 21:55:00 -
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Faction fitted Rapier / Arazu combo works nice.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:10:00 -
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There are 3 basic 'tanks' in Eve. Armor, Shield and speed. Armor tank means you will take forever to get through my armor, Shield means you will take forever to get through my shield and speed means you won't hit me very much because your turets can't track me as well. Speed tank is called Nano. With true 'Nano' you won't hit me, period. You can't track me. The real problem is the gray areas. There are several strategies in Eve that will see a player do very little or no damage and lose a ship. You got owned. They all get branded 'Nano'.
Mimitar are Speed tanker and the optimal race of ships to 'Nano'. They are the enemy of Amarrm, the whole slave thing in the lore. This is why they have energy vampire and neutralizing skills bonuses on many of their ships. To counter speed tanking. MWD and Afterburners use capacitor and when your capacitor is empty you are dead in the water.
What people are really complainging about are alliances and their fleets, that have Vets who mix and match the very best of all 4 races and build super fleets. They will send the 'Nano' first and you will get preoccupied with that super fast ship you can't hit and then they will send in the other specialists who slaughter you.
Eve is a mature game and has mature corps and alliances. They have reduced Eve to 'Jobs' training and that isn't a criticism, it's just the nature of the beast. People don't want a 'job' in a video game and they lose to these jobs, specialist cross race fleets. It gets branded 'Nano'.
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Armoured C
Gallente The Aztecs Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:13:00 -
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yeah Rozen maiden is pretty good oooh you mean the nano***gatory on it
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Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci There are 3 basic 'tanks' in Eve. Armor, Shield and speed. Armor tank means you will take forever to get through my armor. Shield means you will take forever to get through my shield. Speed means you either kill me straight away or can't kill me at all.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ioci There are 3 basic 'tanks' in Eve. Armor, Shield and speed. Armor tank means you will take forever to get through my armor. Shield means you will take forever to get through my shield. Speed means you either kill me straight away or can't kill me at all.
Fix'd
That's true of all the tanks in Eve. If you aren't set up to beat my armor tanked Amarr hac, you aren't going to beat it. If you do, it will be instant death or close to it for me. A passive Drake tank? goes down in 2 minutes or never dies. It's not a nano problem. The fact that they can disengage at will means they are recon fit ships and recon are made to do that. If I fly a super passive tanked Drake in to a system and you are set up to beat it, the other psecialists that come in behind me are going to salughter you. Jobs in Eve. Nano do what they do. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ioci There are 3 basic 'tanks' in Eve. Armor, Shield and speed. Armor tank means you will take forever to get through my armor. Shield means you will take forever to get through my shield. Speed means you either kill me straight away or can't kill me at all.
Fix'd
That's true of all the tanks in Eve. If you aren't set up to beat my armor tanked Amarr hac, you aren't going to beat it. If you do, it will be instant death or close to it for me. A passive Drake tank? goes down in 2 minutes or never dies. It's not a nano problem. The fact that they can disengage at will means they are recon fit ships and recon are made to do that. If I fly a super passive tanked Drake in to a system and you are set up to beat it, the other psecialists that come in behind me are going to salughter you. Jobs in Eve. Nano do what they do.
A minute ago armor and shield 'took forever' to kill. Now they are 'impossible' to kill without the right counter. Your weak argument is showing. -
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Esmenet
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zarithas Why is everyone complaining about it now?
Because the caldari militia thinks that a balanced fleet consists only of pve fitted drakes and caracals.
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Ioci
Gallente Ioci Exploration
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Originally by: Ioci There are 3 basic 'tanks' in Eve. Armor, Shield and speed. Armor tank means you will take forever to get through my armor. Shield means you will take forever to get through my shield. Speed means you either kill me straight away or can't kill me at all.
Fix'd
That's true of all the tanks in Eve. If you aren't set up to beat my armor tanked Amarr hac, you aren't going to beat it. If you do, it will be instant death or close to it for me. A passive Drake tank? goes down in 2 minutes or never dies. It's not a nano problem. The fact that they can disengage at will means they are recon fit ships and recon are made to do that. If I fly a super passive tanked Drake in to a system and you are set up to beat it, the other psecialists that come in behind me are going to salughter you. Jobs in Eve. Nano do what they do.
A minute ago armor and shield 'took forever' to kill. Now they are 'impossible' to kill without the right counter. Your weak argument is showing.
Fine, Nerf Nano's I don't care. I don't fly them. And it won't solve anything. This is just about being the cool guy on the Eve forums and getting that witty shot down argument in. |
Crumplecorn
Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2008.07.13 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci Fine, Nerf Nano's I don't care. I don't fly them. And it won't solve anything. This is just about being the cool guy on the Eve forums and getting that witty shot down argument in.
I don't care if they don't nerf nanos. But to say that a speed tank is equivalent to a shield or armour tank is fallacious. The latter makes you hard to kill, whereas the former makes it hard to fight you at all. -
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