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Gai Servos
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Posted - 2008.07.18 13:49:00 -
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There isnt one. Gankaphoon is worse than arma / mega / aba. Rest BSs are a joke. Sleipnir is better off nanoed. HACs...
CCP wants to ignore this forever or what?
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Cosy
Gallente Porandor
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Posted - 2008.07.18 13:51:00 -
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/hug
Originally by: CCP Mitnal Any complaints can be directed towards our Music Director
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Tara Tempest
Trans Eve Organization
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:00:00 -
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This is CAOD worthy how??
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Haradgrim
Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Haradgrim on 18/07/2008 14:00:49 Because the Caldari have lots.....
If this is not a troll.....
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Originally by: CCP Oveur ...every forum whine feels like a baby pony is getting killed
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JeremyCrow
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:01:00 -
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What would be a non minmatar good solo ship? (without nano)
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acompton
Gallente Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:22:00 -
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I think you need to declare war on somebody over this issue or reset standings towards the devs for bad balancing in order to have this thread not moved...
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Plave Okice
Universal Securities
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:26:00 -
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1600 plate rupture
Would you like to know more? |
Trojanman190
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:26:00 -
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To late
But the op is right. You should read the tempest + large projectiles thread and POAST your support.
But seriously please don't post until you have read the thread (even if you are posting in support), I know it's long but I think it's well worth it.
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:26:00 -
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broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win. ----
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Xyleya
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:29:00 -
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TriMark-Plated-Torp-Neut-Phoon. .
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SuiJuris
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: coeathal vega broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win.
Um, the tempest is hands down the worst bs in the game...
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coeathal vega
Gallente Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris is hands down the worst bs in the game...
no, its not. every ship has its advantages and disadvantages, sniper pest has the alpha of a freakin star wars deathstar and can shoot for hours. ----
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Furb Killer
Gallente USC Militia
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:34:00 -
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Euhm, right. And how is it better than a sniper apoc? Pest just sucks.
But minnie got enough other ships that are good without being nano'd. 1600mm rupture of course, thrasher (that is important for FW people), rifter and not to forget the hurricane.
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Gai Servos
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: coeathal vega broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win.
I didnt remember to state it should be able to take onto oother BSs and sniping isnt really viable solo with the alphanerf, as tempest even can't one-volley unitted blackbird.
Broadsword is kinda good, but thats in 0.0. I dont do 0.0. Muninn is outclassed clearly by eagle but does okayish.
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To mare
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:40:00 -
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Edited by: To mare on 18/07/2008 14:41:09
Originally by: coeathal vega broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win.
munnin? lol tempest? cmon rifter yeah its good. next time my corp go out on roaming or fleet op ill get a rifter
good non nano ships are 1600 rupture (but seriously is the same as the rifter) and hurricane.
all the other ships or they nano or they ****ed. BS cant nano so . . . . . u got it
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adriaans
Amarr The Movement
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:45:00 -
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rupture, cane, phoon, mael, claymore (non nano), sleip (non nano), muninn flown rupture style (hey it's fun :P), cyclone (non nano), are among my favs (of matar race) -sig-
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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trixofthetrade
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Posted - 2008.07.18 14:59:00 -
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yeah clearly geddon is a lot better solo ship than phoon. NOT.
its funny the phoon is the one really decent minmatar bs it doesn't deserve a boost unless maybe its a tiny bit of fitting.
now tempest thats another issue and you'll see lots of support for an overhaul and a look at projectiles in general around here.
as for if ccp is going to ignore it. it took them 2 years or so to fix amarr so a bit of patience is probably recommended.
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To mare
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:02:00 -
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i think the point of this thread is more "dont nerf minmatar nano" than "boost minmatar sucky bs".
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice 1600 plate rupture
QFT and tempest is a good low sec solo BS. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
Kai Jyokoroi
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: SuiJuris
Originally by: coeathal vega broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win.
Um, the tempest is hands down the worst bs in the game...
God-damn I'm so sick of hearing these.
Fashion trends for ships come and go. Suddenly everyone is ragging on the Tempest. 18 months ago everyone was talking about long-range alpha being the most important thing and how a fleet of Tempests was the optimal thing to have for locking, popping a ship in one cycle and switching, and how Minmatar ships are the best. Now, suddenly, for exactly the same reasons, it's "hands down the worst bs in the game..."
So many 2 year old Empire muggle brainless cookie-cutter idiots who just follow the trends of what it says in Ships and Modules forum these days.
A well fitted Tempest is a GOOD SHIP. There, I said it. Anyone who doesn't agree can come down into Catch and sit at optimal away from my corpmate Svetlanna's tempest and see what happens.
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Traderboz
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:45:00 -
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Two options there: they have to sit 3km from AC's or they'll sit at optimal from arty and get hit by pretty pathetic dps. It might work if they aren't in a battleship and don't shoot back.
And tbh, if you don't even fly it (assuming your buddy does), you really don't know how good the ship is. While it was the rage before, things have changed since then that have made it very sub-par. In the day of gank/tank battleships, it has neither.
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Lamonadetomare
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Kai Jyokoroi
Originally by: SuiJuris
Originally by: coeathal vega broadsword. crap nano, insane tank. muninn. crap nano, awesome anti support. tempest, crap nano, one of the better snipers.
oh and a rifter... plated = win.
Um, the tempest is hands down the worst bs in the game...
God-damn I'm so sick of hearing these.
Fashion trends for ships come and go. Suddenly everyone is ragging on the Tempest. 18 months ago everyone was talking about long-range alpha being the most important thing and how a fleet of Tempests was the optimal thing to have for locking, popping a ship in one cycle and switching, and how Minmatar ships are the best. Now, suddenly, for exactly the same reasons, it's "hands down the worst bs in the game..."
So many 2 year old Empire muggle brainless cookie-cutter idiots who just follow the trends of what it says in Ships and Modules forum these days.
A well fitted Tempest is a GOOD SHIP. There, I said it. Anyone who doesn't agree can come down into Catch and sit at optimal away from my corpmate Svetlanna's tempest and see what happens.
1VS1?
and what happen if your frien have to stay at the optimal of the other bs
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AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:50:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Originally by: Plave Okice 1600 plate rupture
QFT and tempest is a good low sec solo BS.
Used to be.
Ruppy, and the HIC are the only true answers.
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Riho
Gallente Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.07.18 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Gai Servos There isnt one. Gankaphoon is worse than arma / mega / aba. Rest BSs are a joke. Sleipnir is better off nanoed. HACs...
CCP wants to ignore this forever or what?
fail ---------------------------------- Fighting for Minmatar o7 Yes... this is my main. Extreme Troll Slayer...
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Eve Defence Force
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:02:00 -
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Originally by: AstroPhobic
Used to be.
Ruppy, and the HIC are the only true answers.
Tempest is a good solo BS compared to the others because of agility, speed, 2 extra high slots for SBs (against ecm drones) and heavy neut (to kill frig tacklers). It is versitile and that is what you need generally. It is not bad at all for this job.
Sure if you know what youre up against and want to bust a camp vs a stronger force or alike tempest might not be the best choice. But heck, use its strengths. ----------------------------------------- [Video] I'm a soldier, so remember the name |
AstroPhobic
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lyria Skydancer
Tempest is a good solo BS compared to the others because of agility
It's agility isn't very good.
Quote: speed
Means next to nothing on a BS, but okay
Quote: 2 extra high slots for SBs (against ecm drones) and heavy neut (to kill frig tacklers).
Okay, that's useful, but now it's got DPS in the pitiful department.
Quote: It is versitile and that is what you need generally. It is not bad at all for this job.
I might buy that when it could fit med slots with ECM. Highs with nos. It's not agile enough and doesnt have enough range/tracking to act as an anti-support role. It doesn't have the tank or damage to do what other battleships do.
Quote:
Sure if you know what youre up against and want to bust a camp vs a stronger force or alike tempest might not be the best choice. But heck, use its strengths.
You're trying to make it sound survivable, but the neut and smartbomb will only get you so far. It will fold once you get a second point, or a heavy point.
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Buhhdust Princess
Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:10:00 -
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1. Dual Rep Tempest w/ Siege launcher or neuts
2. Dual rep Typhoon w/ 4x guns, 4x sieges <-- kickass DPS. I would much reccomend with 3x auxiliary Nano pumps and standard exile booster.
thx
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Transmaniacon
Minmatar Strike-Force-Alpha
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Plave Okice 1600 plate rupture
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Emah Spina
Phantom Squad G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:24:00 -
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AC-Muninn, it delivers a world of hurt.
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Bo Bojangles
Black Reign The Five
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Posted - 2008.07.18 16:51:00 -
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omg you guys are all raggin on the ships I love to fly, but I don't know anything but Minnie tbh, and I admit I tend to choose a build and hone it instead of trying anything new.
But for pvp (and my pvp is fleet ops), my BS of choice is a remote rep Tempest with none of it's own reps but a plate, TE and Gyros, MWD, SB's and TC's. How bad is that? It flies only with a blob.
And I've been falling for the Muninn, but a 650 build which feels like King from 15 to 40. No plate, just a repper and Gyros again. Someone said the Eagle is better though? I was wondering about that since it grew a 5th turret hardpoint but I didn't know.
1600 Ruppie,.. god I hate the idea of plate on a cruiser,...
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