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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.07.28 19:06:00 -
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Well, the ratios are somewhere in between 1:1.5:2.5:4 and 1:2:4:6 for usage. So, yes, right now, neod/thul can be at best used at around 20-30% of capacity, assuming dysprosium is at full extraction power... as a consequence, neod/thulium are priced around 1/20 to 1/40 of dysprosium... and the same reasoning (about 50-60% capacity usage for promethium vs dysprosium) causes prom prices to variate between 2/3 to 1/3 of dysprosium price.
Now, ASSUME for a second that somehow, you could ensure that nearly all neod/thul extractors would choose to form a cartel that simply stockpiles between 75% and 85% of their extraction rates, and only sells the remaining 15%-25% at prices comparable to those of dysprosium would eventually drop to... do you think people would still buy it ? Answer, yes, they would, and they WOULD actually pay the premium price, and the cartel would actually make MORE money that way (1/4 to 1/8 of the goods at *5 to *10 of current price) while maintaining a HUGE stockpile to be used later on, in case a shift in production line requirements suddendly makes it useful again.
Problem is, if even 1/8 of the potential neod/thulium production would be OUT of the "cartel's" hands, the whole thing would basically fall flat, as you can no longer hope to compensate for a profit (at least half of the demand met by others). You could theoretically try to hoard and stockpile massive amounts of neod/thulium at low prices, slowly rise prices up, then CRASH the market intentionally with a small percentage of your stockpile, making a lot of POSes run out of bussiness in a matter of months, then jack up prices back up to recoup the losses you incurred during the crash, but the overall risks are too great and the volatility of the market is too high to guarantee a significant amount of return for your needed investment funds.
Still, possibilities DO exist, although this is above is not the best way to deal with it (actually, it's one of the most brutal and least profitable possible ways).
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kickan min
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Posted - 2008.07.28 19:38:00 -
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wow what alot of talking and words ... I thought this was all about buy low sell high :/
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.07.28 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: kickan min wow what alot of talking and words ... I thought this was all about buy low sell high :/
hahah
Motherships
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Czanthria
Caldari Ad Astra Vexillum Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.28 23:58:00 -
[154]
Just expressing interest in your version of "The Apprentice". I do meet your requirements in terms of IQ and engineering experience. -- Knowledge is Power! |
Stephannus Calimben
Comply Or Die
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Posted - 2008.07.30 10:32:00 -
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Hey, not sure if you're still looking for apprentices, but I'm interested if you still are.
I'm one semester away from finishing an undergrad in economics, and have a lot of interest in the Eve market (though not very much experience at analyzing/predicting trends, or any such things).
Haven't done an IQ test since I was 12 (and even then never learned the score...), but I did score a 173 (99th percentile) on the Law School Admission Test, another general aptitude test.
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Lee Liste
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Posted - 2008.07.31 23:01:00 -
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I think I'm your man. No need self-promoting in this thread, but let's just say you wouldn't be disappointed. I'll check back on this thread for info/questions you might have, otherwise contact me in-game (Lee Liste).
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cosmoray
Cosmoray Construction
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Posted - 2008.08.01 02:35:00 -
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Akita, I am not looking to become a grasshopper, but have you actually found any apprentices that you are going to take on.
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Major Rich
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Posted - 2008.08.01 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: Major Rich on 01/08/2008 03:16:30 Im VERY VERY interested in this.
I'm extremely intelligent and grasp things quicker than most people realize or like....
Im a complete noob to this game and economics, but my brain is lethargic from lack of use and this could be lots of fun ;)!
I probably dont need any seed money (depends on how much you say i need).
I'm CST (GMT -6) and on in the evenings and VERY randomly through the day for brief moments at work. 26 yr old and work in disaster restoration.
part of me wants to beg for this "position", but life wont end if i dont get it, but it would be very nice to have a mentor who is at least as intelligent as I, if not more so ;)
oh, and i LOVE math
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.02 10:43:00 -
[159]
Ok guys, sorry I had to delay it so much, RL issues and stuff... plus, the new "thingy" CCP is ready to throw at us, which is FUBAR at the moment and could change a lot of things (ESPECIALLY in the markets) depending on the outcome... all of the above made me not "take care" of this issue here sooner. Well, I can only assume you guys are patient enough anyway (I mean, you have to be), so you won't mind a little bit of extra delay
I'll try to wrap things up and move on to setting the meetings timing this weekend or early next week, if nothing unexpected happens... again.
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Professor Bunsen
Optech Mineral Ventures
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Posted - 2008.08.02 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Major Rich Edited by: Major Rich on 01/08/2008 03:16:30 I'm extremely intelligent and grasp things quicker than most people realize or like....
The self-assertion of intelligence is almost pathognomonic of a fool. [Eve-Index][Traded Mineral Options Tutorial] |
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LeDiableBlanc
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Posted - 2008.08.02 14:59:00 -
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Last tested my IQ was 145 so this thread is below my level of interest.
If you buy me a few beers though, I'm sure we'll get it at your level and you can "teach" me things I allready know, just to give you a good feeling (my EQ is also quite high).
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Major Rich
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Posted - 2008.08.03 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Professor Bunsen
Originally by: Major Rich Edited by: Major Rich on 01/08/2008 03:16:30 I'm extremely intelligent and grasp things quicker than most people realize or like....
The self-assertion of intelligence is almost pathognomonic of a fool.
i love you too!
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Pax Empyrean
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Posted - 2008.08.05 20:07:00 -
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He's right, though. It's enough to say if you meet Akita's requirements without trying to talk about how much smarter you are than other people, because that really does look foolish. You learn faster than other people realize or like? Really? How would they not like how quickly you learn if they don't realize how quickly that is?
Same goes for the guy who thinks this is beneath him because he's got a 145 IQ. It seems he's got an inflated opinion of what that means, since he's certainly not the smartest one in the thread. Turn your nose up at the offer of teaching if you want; I think we've all got something to learn from more experienced people regardless of what our IQ is.
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Khalina Drakona
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Posted - 2008.08.05 21:05:00 -
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I can haz cliff notes?
Seriously though, I'd be interested in any type of instruction/lessons etc I can get. I've been reading the Market forums for the last two days or so. Trying to get into trading to fund my other character. So far I've come up with a few ideas and found a few niches...now I'm working on developing them.
While I probably don't qualify to become an apprentice (I'm 30, limited college, lazy, non-self starter and hell, I joined the military...yeah I'm that dumb) I'd still like to see if there are other opportunities for learning.
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Lady Destruction
Club Bear
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Posted - 2008.08.07 15:58:00 -
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Count me in too, i am always happy to learn something new, if u need more info, i'd be more than glad to provide it ingame.
P.S. Pe mine trebuie sa ma accepti, vorbim aceeasi limba . Bine, bine, tu decizi.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.07 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 07/08/2008 16:13:54
Originally by: Lady Destruction Count me in too, i am always happy to learn something new, if u need more info, i'd be more than glad to provide it ingame.
P.S. Pe mine trebuie sa ma accepti, vorbim aceeasi limba . Bine, bine, tu decizi.
Now that you mentioned that I'll have to sign up too.
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Solisk
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Posted - 2008.08.07 18:09:00 -
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I'd be interested in taking an apprenticeship position. I have been working towards becoming a trader anyways, and to have someone to teach me the ropes would be icing on the cake.
I'm 24, live in Southern California, and I work as a roofing inspector.
I am highly intelligent, and I grasp details easily. So far, I've played Eve fairly solo, although my long term goal is to start a corporation that dabbles in Mining, Manufacturing, and Trading.
I also don't require any seed money, as I plan on using about 300m from my main account to get me started in the Trading business.
On another note, I don't yet have a freighter, but I do have an Indy V with about 38.4k m3 of cargo. I can't quite afford the 800-900m for a freighter, but that's a goal that I'm currently working towards.
If I am the type of person you're looking to teach, then feel free to send me an Eve mail to "Lord HyperFang" or just reply to this post.
Thank you for your time.
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.08.08 09:49:00 -
[168]
Maybe one day I can be smart like akita T and his lackeys
SKUNK
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.09 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 09/08/2008 21:52:21
Originally by: Le Skunk Maybe one day I can be smart like akita T and his lackeys
You're smart enough, but for some reason extremely bitter//hostile
P.S. For RL reasons, I might have to postpone this for a while... sorry.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.09 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 09/08/2008 22:04:16
Originally by: Akita T
P.S. For RL reasons, I might have to postpone this for a while... sorry.
Nu-ti fa griji, incepem fara tine.
I've just told Akita that he should take his time as we're starting without him anyway.
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Verohkur
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Posted - 2008.08.12 02:17:00 -
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Ok I took that online test you posted on first page and it gave me 131 iq :P Aparently 125 is top 95% so I meet that. Now I dont meet the age rule however I think I am mature for my ages but being only 18 that might be a problem. I am UK based and I am online a lot (xfire tells me 32% of my day are on here yet I have had Xfire for around.. Iono ages lol). I have trade alts ect and grasp the basic trading fairly well but on the proffesional level you people play the markets at I am struggling a bit :P Send me a mail ingame or on here. I am fairly flexible on times and such although I do have work during the days but it sounds like your on more night time like me. |
Khalidos
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:05:00 -
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Not sure if your still looking for people, but i got interested while reading some EVE market threads.
I'm 25 years old, live in Europe(GMT+1). Rounding up my Bachelor Business Information Technology and starting my master International Service Management the coming college year.
Did an IQ-test(132), although i don't feel it represents all aspects involved in personal development and insight! But i guess private chats will clear up the INT part.
My current and first character is only 22 days old, enjoying all aspects of the game so far. |
Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:26:00 -
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Interesting little IQ test, I wonder what the highest IQ would be if you got all the questions right. I love how they try to convince you to buy a completely unnecessary product. I question how much such a test would really tell you.
- Lexander
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Lexander Morinex
Caldari LDD Investments
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Posted - 2008.08.12 21:33:00 -
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Akita,
I would be interested in learning what you might be interested in teaching. It looks like you have plenty of takers, so I guess the question is are you still interested in more, or have you found your cadre?
- Lexander
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.12 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Lubimchik on 12/08/2008 22:07:22
Originally by: YouGotRipped Edited by: YouGotRipped on 09/08/2008 22:21:53
Originally by: Akita T
P.S. For RL reasons, I might have to postpone this for a while... sorry.
Nu-ti fa griji, incepem fara tine.
I've just told Akita that he should take his time as we're starting without him anyway. Monday is OK for everyone?
Hmm, I am by no means a Romanian expert at all YGR, but I am pretty sure you told him that HE was going to start with out everyone else....
Do not worry, you start without....
nu vă faceţi griji, vom encepe cu faptul vă "No worries, we will start with out you"
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.08.13 02:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lubimchik "Nu-ti fa griji, incepem fara tine." Hmm, I am by no means a Romanian expert at all YGR, but I am pretty sure you told him that HE was going to start with out everyone else.... Do not worry, you start without....
Actually, properly translated it says exactly "Don't worry, we'll start without you". Romanian syntax is a bit... ahem... different from English, to say the least.
Sorry guys, but I hardly have the time to even log in lately (merely changing skills), but I sneak a peek (and post a lot) during off-times (like, for instance, now, 5:18 AM, dammit). I'm hooked up with some ugly paperwork in RL (let's just say I lost some important papers), plus I'm starting on a small 4+ month freelancing project (still not fully rolling) that could get insanely busy any day now.
Of course, now with the upcoming "speed patch", the market's pretty ripe for a bit of manipulation, and if you guys think you can coordinate independently (I'll try to give as much feedback as possble, but no promises once the workload starts getting high, I might even suspend my EVE account for a while soon) you're welcome to try.
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.08.13 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lubimchik
Hmm, I am by no means a Romanian expert at all YGR, but I am pretty sure you told him that HE was going to start with out everyone else....
I am learning Russian too, care to help?
Originally by: Shadarle You're a worthless wanna-be scammer who has had absolutely zero success doing anything here... so why should anyone care what you say.
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Eclipse Ryne
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Posted - 2008.08.13 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Originally by: Lubimchik
Hmm, I am by no means a Romanian expert at all YGR, but I am pretty sure you told him that HE was going to start with out everyone else....
I am learning Russian too, care to help?
Send me an eve mail or contact me in game lol.
Most people think my name is just some crazied sex spin off, few relise that its a russian word that more or less means "Cherrished one" often in russian its used in the same thing as a "teachers pet"
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Lubimchik
Power Seed Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.08.13 18:12:00 -
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above is my alt laptop hates me..
Why event I deleted that character yet?!?!!?
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