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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.25 23:33:00 -
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Quote: Are some of you going to seriously sit there and say ' I wouldnt have entered knowing the jackpot was only going to be 1.75 Bill not 3.5 Bill'. Wake up and smell the freaking roses people.... sit back and re-evaluate your posts
Ok I have re-evaluated my post still think the odds is not in my favour with the new system. I wish you good luck with your new system but it's not for me and can I now have my money back. Since when I invested it you told me something diffrent. you have the right to change your mind but so have I.
And I don't think you will take any money from me or anything like that I just feel that BIG now might chance the deal when they so see fit and by doing that changing the odds for me compared to the guy that enters the next lottery because the next lottery will be payed for with part of my money no mather how many participate or if I can participate.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.26 13:08:00 -
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You whine because you will get ONLY 1Bisk if you win instead of 4? Come on... If it is not about greed what is it about?
It's about the odds it's like entering a poker game an in the middle some takes away a card from you and all the rest of the players around the table just because he feels it's right. I changes the odds and I like to know the odds before I enter and I thought I did but hey people can change them when ever they feel like it. yeah sure but I'm not letting them get away with it. if people wana play with the new odds thats up to them I don't.
Quote: NoNamium - Dude WTF are you smoking. Stop trolling these topics. NOONE is scamming you out of 2 Billion ISK. The pot is being shared into the draws that follow on. Making more people rich. This has never been about making money.... it has been about sharing it.
I wouldn't claim BIG where Scamming. But for them to decide who I share my money with is not something I will sit back and watch. I have no problem giving away money. But I don't like other people making the desition for me. It's not about greed it's about controll and the right to decide for your self.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.26 13:31:00 -
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Quote: You are an idiot.
Total prizes drawn for this lottery sale exceed value of tickets bought. In order to come to your conclusion we have to assume the Imperial Apoc has zero value.
Who are the idiot the are taking 2.1bil and giving out 1.750bil. meaning they are taking more then 50% and the value of the apoc would be crazy. And I for one don't freeking care about that apoc and if I have gotten it and BIG changed the deal YES I would give it back because for me it's nothing more then a big ships that I can't fly don't wana fly the value in the apoc is simply the isk I could get for it. Now BIG changes the deal and desides to move money to another drawing a drawing I cannot participate in and a drawing that will have diffrent odds then the one I'm currently in. And I don't wana pay for someone else to get a diffrent chance then me. that like playing a lottery and having to kinds of lottery tickets 1 with a fix change of less then you bought it for and the other one with a chance depending on how many lottery tickes get sold of that sort. I would take the tickes that changes price because I like thoose better but now BIG is forcing me too either take the ones with a fixed chance or take both and pay double.
It's not about money it's about BIG changing the odds. I know some people play lottery for fun I play by odds because I know I can't trust my luck.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.26 13:35:00 -
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The easy solution to this is simple thoose that don't wana participate shouldn't hafe to I guess big would still have a big pot to play with since many would be to lazy or don't care about claiming a refund.
But it's quite obvious we are a few that care and don't wana participate in this new system and since big changed the system they should also be ready to compensate thoose that wants no part of this new system.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.26 21:23:00 -
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Quote: Gold Magnate market value: 1 billion Current Bid on Imperial Armageddon: 2.2 billion
You're right. That value on the Imperial Apoc is crazy. You just mistake in which way the value would be in error.
Who would pay 2.2billion for a ship that will be the prime target in any engagement and a ship that every pirat in the game wana destroy. if someone do and the apoc from the lottery got sold for that price surely I will admite my misstake. but the point is I didn't not enter the lottery for a ship that I don't want. When I entered BIGs site the first thing I saw was a 1billion+ pot and I was thinging hell yeah. It was easy to just throw in 2mil to BIG games because under that big pot it sad that if you did you would have 1 chance at the apoc and 1 chance at the pot. Now big changed the pot and the deal is not at all as good as before.
And the fact that one the first drawing has allready been held is even worse because now they wana force us to stay in with the words you allready started can't get refund now. If they had stated this before the apoc drawing I would had demanded a refund right then now they didn't for some reson don't know why since the pot was that high even before the the drawing of the apoc so why didn't TornSoul come out with the statement before that so we could avoid this discussion about allready being in one of the 2 promised drawing.
And for thoose few comming here stating BIG is doing the right thing. We have allready told you good for you if you wana support them it's up too you but they should not be able to force thoose that don't wana participate to do so.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.28 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Dubi on 28/05/2004 11:22:33
Quote: FFS man!?! Is it that hard for you to make 1mil ISk in the world of Eve?
No it's very easy to make 1mil in the world of eve and the money is not the issue.
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Also, why would you think the odds are ever in your favor? Do you play the lotto in RL? Do you lose every time and ask for your money back then too?
I have played the lottery many times but have yet to win... I even played the max amount of tickets in the last round.. and will for the next. If I win Great!, if not Big ******* deal. I can say you wont see me whine and grovel, and ask for my money back.
I think that Torn does a great and honest job on the lotto
Do we hafe to go over this again if this happend in rl BIG big would be facing the people that feel cheated in court. and would be guilty of breaking a written agreement. And I have also played with BIG before and I was going to continue doing so. I have never won and it's not a big deal. the big deal is that they take money from our lottery to sponsor the ones that wana be in the next lottery.
Quote: Did you not read that the other 1.75bil will go to the next round So you still havent shown me where they're keeping the isk.
Did you also read the part where it says that you hafe to buy new tickets for that round. BIG was given a Apoc by CCP and they made a lottery for the Apoc and stated that all the money from that lottery would be in the next lottery so pay 2mil and you can be in both lotteries. Now BIG sees the opurtunity to take over the lottery market by ensuring that they have the biggest prices by taking money from a CCP event to have as a carrot so that more people in the future will continue playing with them.
And I didn't agree on being apart of paying for a carrot that I'm not interested in.
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Dubi
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Posted - 2004.05.28 11:22:00 -
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Edited by: Dubi on 28/05/2004 11:24:45 Edited by: Dubi on 28/05/2004 11:24:04
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Quote: Originally by: Dubi And I didn't not agree on being apart of paying for a carrot that I'm not interested in.
So you do agree with it then...?
Typo Changed.
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