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Reardan
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:37:00 -
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Well nano's are dead, and for some odd reason blasterboats are being killed as well.
Shelve the mega and dust off the ol' domi again? Go Gallente recon and scram peoples faces off?
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Malcanis
We are Legend
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:40:00 -
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Cerb.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Out of Order
Vanguard.
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:43:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 25/07/2008 23:43:55
 Originally by: Reardan
Well nano's are dead, and for some odd reason blasterboats are being killed as well.
Shelve the mega and dust off the ol' domi again? Go Gallente recon and scram peoples faces off?
My guess is assault frigates immediately after the change. Then if another idea I have begins to catch on some of your current nano-skills should come in handy. Anyways most people probebly won't give away their biggest ideas until people see them in action.
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Neth'Rae
Gallente
Decorum Inc
Tygris Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:46:00 -
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lachesis for solopwning 
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Danny Altenburg
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:52:00 -
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Nanos aren't dead, they're sleeping.
TBH, I think the Vaga will still be a very popular ship, as it will still be able to field a proper speed tank. Ishtar and Sac will suffer more heavily than the Vaga, I'd wager.
Inties will make a comeback.
Cloakers will be more popular, of course. People will try harder with the Black Ops, I'd guess, a ship class which is probably due a buff anyway. Stealth Bombers will definitely come back into fashion, I'd think.
Things are really going to mix up. It looks like Gallente Recons will come back into the limelight, but equally ABs are being offered as a 'third way'; lower but 'unjammable' speed. AB Inties may well be viable, as they receive their full sig radius bonus while still being pretty fast and nimble.
Missile ships will become less lulz-worthy in PVP (though explosion velocity is still going to be a massive issue, and people have all but forgotten about the relevance of explosion radius, which is another reason for small ships not to fear the Raven).
Variety will be the winner, overall. AFs are already being touted as a newly viable proposition.
In terms of roaming gangs, speed to deploy (ie. align and warp times) will become more relevant, another factor that will keep heavy-hitting small ships like AFs, Recons and HACs relevant compared to the more lumbering BCs and BSs.
Overall, though, the changes are so multiple and far-reaching that it's impossible to say. Many of the changes I welcome, some of them I fear, but I'm looking forward to trying them all out.
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.07.25 23:56:00 -
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I foresee a HUGE amarr recon boost in the making. mark my words.
Oh wait, the 7.5k warp scram change just made my pilgrim that much better. Considering I dont uncloak till im in range, it cant mwd away anymore.
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Aria Seniste
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:04:00 -
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Originally by: Reardan
Well nano's are dead, and for some odd reason blasterboats are being killed as well.
Shelve the mega and dust off the ol' domi again? Go Gallente recon and scram peoples faces off?
1) Blasters have the worst range of any weapon.
2) Blasters conversely have the best damage.
3) With 90% webs, this was made meaningless whenever someone came within 10km.
 I actually have to deal with the downside of my weapons now...
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sableye
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:07:00 -
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its got to be mining barges they have yet to have there day in the sun.
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sableye
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.07.26 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Aria Seniste
Originally by: Reardan
Well nano's are dead, and for some odd reason blasterboats are being killed as well.
Shelve the mega and dust off the ol' domi again? Go Gallente recon and scram peoples faces off?
1) Blasters have the worst range of any weapon.
2) Blasters conversely have the best damage.
3) With 90% webs, this was made meaningless whenever someone came within 10km.
I actually have to deal with the downside of my weapons now...
torps are better damage I heard
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Cerb.
Skip a step, go to the Pulse Apoc.
range bonus + pulse =   
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Scordaf
Killer Koalas
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:33:00 -
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Drake. That is all.
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Scordaf
Drake. That is all.
= epic fail in fleet :P
i think the next FOTM ship will be gallente EAF
they need nerfing in about 3 months
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Ruze
Amarr
No Applicable Corporation
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:38:00 -
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Amarr ships
Lasers
cap skills
drone skills
neutralizers
roleplay
slavery
being pimps
Train those skills, in that order.
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Veldya
Caldari
Guristari Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:39:00 -
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Edited by: Veldya on 26/07/2008 01:40:22
EVE 2, The Raven Strikes Back!
In all seriousness, when nano's get balanced you will see traditional ships become viable once again because all those ships that were 100% useless against nanos will no longer be 100% useless. That is why this change is going to happen.
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GallenteCitizen20080615
Gallente
Federation War News
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Posted - 2008.07.26 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ruze
being pimps
that how i roll this man speaks sence
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
We are pleased to aim!
Or was that the other way around?
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.26 02:54:00 -
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Well passive shield tanks arent it, those are killable by alot of things. Buffer tanks are eventually killable, remote reppers are highly counterable by many options, jammer ships are subject to counter drones and missing a cycle and fofs.
To be honest im stumped on the next i win button. There are plenty "I could win" buttons though thats always better than one i win button.
I do blame nanos for some of the blobs getting bigger, but other than that blobs are the only I win buttong and soon ccp wants to toss factional warfare traits into o.o conquering with time based gate captures and needing to hold the majority of the gates of system to effect sovernty of. Though not a ultimate soltion to blobs it will force groups to split up to hold the majority.
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Matrixcvd
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Veldya
Edited by: Veldya on 26/07/2008 01:40:22
EVE 2, The Raven Strikes Back!
In all seriousness, when nano's get balanced you will see traditional ships become viable once again because all those ships that were 100% useless against nanos will no longer be 100% useless. That is why this change is going to happen.
the dev blog is done by stupid people succumbing to moar stupid people humping even stupider people, in the great circle of stupidity.
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PsychoBones
Sons of Plunder.
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Posted - 2008.07.26 03:49:00 -
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Pilgrim (I'm not joking)
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ChickenOfDoom
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:01:00 -
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ecm drones
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:23:00 -
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ecm drones with good skills are about 2.5 multispecturms, 1 smart bomb and its over.
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gtcsellalt
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:23:00 -
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caldari overpowered now heh
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Nova Fox
Gallente
Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:28:00 -
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hey at least all those missile skills on the guided missiles arent wasted anymore. and its going to expand anti nano to more than 2 ships overall, there would be what? 20 ish anti nanos and at least 1 from every race?
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Sathrai
No Quarter.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:29:00 -
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Remote-repping pulse Apoc.
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FiremanSam
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:52:00 -
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Falcon. Not that this is new...
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Sir Substance
Minmatar
Sunspot Requisitions
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2008.07.26 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sathrai
Remote-repping pulse Apoc.
if you have the skills and enough t2 rigs, you can fit a citadel torp launcher on an apoc. pulse lasers be damned!
Originally by: Ekrid
because trying to fit medium beam lasers is like trying to shove a cow in your mailbox. doable, but it gets messy.
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Daelin Blackleaf
The Reclaimed
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Posted - 2008.07.26 05:11:00 -
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The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and FotM's come and pass, leaving memories that become legends. Legend fades to myth and even the myth is long forgotten When the nerf that gave it birth comes again. In one expansion, called the Empyrean Age by some, a change yet to come, a change long past, a rebalancing of speed was proposed...The nerf was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor ends in the turning of the Wheel. But it was a beginning.
In other words every ship has it's day eventually, skill whatever suits your playstyle or whatever just plain looks good.
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Straight Chillen
Gallente
Solar Wind
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.26 05:12:00 -
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Sniping dread?
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Straight Chillen
Gallente
Solar Wind
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.07.26 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and FotM's come and pass, leaving memories that become legends. Legend fades to myth and even the myth is long forgotten When the nerf that gave it birth comes again. In one expansion, called the Empyrean Age by some, a change yet to come, a change long past, a rebalancing of speed was proposed...The nerf was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor ends in the turning of the Wheel. But it was a beginning.
In other words every ship has it's day eventually, skill whatever suits your playstyle or whatever just plain looks good.
thats some deep shit right there
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Terianna Eri
Amarr
Terianna Eri Corp
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Posted - 2008.07.26 05:17:00 -
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I think I can confidently say that this is easily the best time to be Amarr since Armageddons with 8x heat sinks.
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How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
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Roku Kotaki
Caldari
Celestial Command Operations
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Posted - 2008.07.26 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
The Wheel of Nerfs turns, and FotM's come and pass, leaving memories that become legends. Legend fades to myth and even the myth is long forgotten When the nerf that gave it birth comes again. In one expansion, called the Empyrean Age by some, a change yet to come, a change long past, a rebalancing of speed was proposed...The nerf was not the beginning. There are neither beginnings nor ends in the turning of the Wheel. But it was a beginning.
In other words every ship has it's day eventually, skill whatever suits your playstyle or whatever just plain looks good.
/end thread
/off topic
That's cool.. you changed some of the words to suit Eve but, that comes from The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan. Awesome set of books!
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