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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Tixxie Lix
Originally by: Jim Raynor
That's right, EVE is not a single player game!
It doesn't mean people should be forced into gangs either if they had already been given the choice to solo by CCP if they so choosed.
Sorry what? I hear blaster ships are great in gangs now, as long as they have support, just like Caldari ships. See? Everything's balanced now. Everyone knows the Caldari's great gang support was the envy of the other races, so now you can too enjoy what it's like to be 'support'.
Wow you are stupid aren't you ? Blasters dont work in gangs because you spend your time mwd'ing around to the primary who dies when you arrive then on to the next.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes Hehehe.. this is just sweet. So much Gallente crying who mocked Caldari when Caldari was crying.
Pre balance, gallente was the sure win in 90% of the time (1v1). A MWD made sure the mid range gap was eliminated instantly. Now it doesn't, and that is good.
But to be honest, I don't see the problem with blaster boats. A regular scrambler has 7.5km range, so either the target is already in a good range or the blaster boat has momentum enough to get in close to web the target. Yes, you can cry of 15km faction scramblers, but that is always a risk you have to take. And as you told Caldari, bring a friend. No ships should ever be a solopwnmobile.
Jesus christ you just dont ******* get it do you?
First of all to catch anyone 1v1 blasterboats need the 24km scram. This means we can't fit the shortrange to pin down targets properly. Second of all any dps outside 5km is usually going to be rubbish and the thing that makes blasterboats good are the good damage. If you have to fight at 9km, there's no good damage and then you die. Simple as. Blasterships are solo ships, thats where they work and mostly only there since blaster range is so small and blasterboats aren't fast. If you use them in gang fights chances are you'll be spending your time slowboating from target to target and it has already died when you arrive. This is even worse with the new change where you are even less immobile and more slow and then the longer range (Geddon, raven) get another advantage.
Blasters rule in solo, not much else, if you take this, they're useless.
Also lol@ 90% of 1v1s, that's bullshit, maybe you have a l2p problem?
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hugh Ruka
Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: Tixxie Lix
Originally by: Jim Raynor
That's right, EVE is not a single player game!
It doesn't mean people should be forced into gangs either if they had already been given the choice to solo by CCP if they so choosed.
Sorry what? I hear blaster ships are great in gangs now, as long as they have support, just like Caldari ships. See? Everything's balanced now. Everyone knows the Caldari's great gang support was the envy of the other races, so now you can too enjoy what it's like to be 'support'.
I LOLed ... they walked into this so nicely Jim ... GOOD JOB !!!
Finaly all the years of hearing Caldari are only good in gangs and fleet and getting used to it, not we get some nice revenge :-) oh God it does taste sweet ...
Except we dont actually work in gangs.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Euriti on 31/07/2008 08:34:10
Originally by: Opertone blasters + MWD of old eliminated sniping, now we can hope that there will be more long range less damage setups
right now megathrone is the strongest ship in the game, 5 heavy drones, 7 MEGA blasters... 1300 DPS +; use some right to get better fall-off
It's not the strongest ship in the game.
That is the Armageddon. It's over there --->
It did not need a nerf. It does not deserve a nerf but it got a nerf and now you sad idiots are ****ing on gallente pilots because people who get their skillpoints turned in to something useless are fun to mock.
Sad, it's really sad.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 08:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor However, I find the whole 'i can't solopwn' thing to be rather amusing, considering how much Caldari people get slammed constantly for their inability to undock and do any sort of PvP without gang support
Again, this is the only thing we can do with out blasterboats. Caldari have a fundamental problem with their fitting since tank and tackle are in the same slots. This can't efficiently be solved because then caldari would get a way too strong tank if they gave up on the scram spots. Saying: "because I can't have it he can't have it either" is just disgusting and is done out of spite, nothing else.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 08:55:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor Edited by: Jim Raynor on 31/07/2008 08:53:02
Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: Jim Raynor However, I find the whole 'i can't solopwn' thing to be rather amusing, considering how much Caldari people get slammed constantly for their inability to undock and do any sort of PvP without gang support
Again, this is the only thing we can do with out blasterboats. Caldari have a fundamental problem with their fitting since tank and tackle are in the same slots. This can't efficiently be solved because then caldari would get a way too strong tank if they gave up on the scram spots. Saying: "because I can't have it he can't have it either" is just disgusting and is done out of spite, nothing else.
Disgusting? LOL. Too strong shield tank? How long do shield tanks last without faction gear, seriously? Add a MWD on top of that. Who uses active shield tanks in PvP these days? Are MWD fitted Ravens loaded with siege launchers suddenly uber shield tanking too? Setups pls? (I'm Caldari and dumb and I dunno how to properly fit ships for PvP afterall).
Waah waaaahhh I can't solo as well in my gallente solopwn blastermobile, oh noes!! I guess what I'm saying is I don't feel bad for you. However if blaster ships are completely unacceptable under the new game mechanics (in terms of range/flexibility), I see no reason not to boost them, like I said previously.
But please don't come and tell a Caldari player 'i can't solo pvp anymore!' without inciting just a smidgen of anger. :)
P.S. I am currently petitioning Webster to get the word 'support' removed from the English language.
It's not a solopwn mobile. Where the hell did you get that from? Anyone with a brain kites a blastership these days and not it's just getting worse by the looks of it.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.07.31 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sweet Rosella You want more range, tracking or both will you be prepaird to take a damage nerf, close range weapons such as blasters give the most dps
Pulses have 80% of the damage blasters have while having 3 times the range. Something is not right there if we are to follow your logic. It's hard to see any balanced solution to this that would not screw anyone over and quite frankly I think the best solution to the whole speed rebalancing is to nerf polys and put some kind of speedcap on. This patch breaks more than it fixes.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Euriti on 01/08/2008 09:53:38 Edited by: Euriti on 01/08/2008 09:50:07
Originally by: MenanceWhite Edited by: MenanceWhite on 01/08/2008 07:38:08
Originally by: Shadowsword you're better off using railguns.
Originally by: MenanceWhite You can always fit rails, ohho
It's also a hybrid weapon
Well well, what did'nt I post? Fit Rails and act as support in gangs.
There's your new role, now adapt or die b l a s t e r f a g s .
Yeah we should fit low tracking low dps long range weapons while everyone else fits short range while you take our niche away.
What about just giving us our niche back and leave it as before because it's obviously more balanced.
Also lolfitting issues, megathron can just squeeze on some neutrons now, lacks cpu, with rails, not gonna happen, I still lack some cpu even with using ANP II, faint warp prohib, named web, iffa etc.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite Edited by: MenanceWhite on 01/08/2008 10:03:14 No. I had to make new chars to respec when i got into the same situation. Why should you get away with it?
Originally by: WillageGirl Yes ... lets all play Caldari online since some nooblets cant imagine any other ways to play it.
Actually, this topic is just about whinning gallentes. Amarr is looking very promising: All BS usefull, harb is good, HACs are still awesome even if you don't nano them, curse can use TD to replace nano and missiles are getting looked over to not become "overpowered", Revelation is de sexT, awesome interceptors too.
And look what faction I am WELL CAPTAIN OBVIOUS TO THE RESCUE: AMARR , which I started training skills for instead of my gallente char abit ago. You know what this is called ? Well you just guessed it: A D A P T I N G, damm straight.
How can we adapt? Blasters don't work for solo with this, they don't work for gangs with this, you are suggesting using RAILGUNS which have so high cpu it's not even funny. Couple this with already existing fitting problems and what do you have?
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Euriti on 01/08/2008 10:22:42
Originally by: MenanceWhite Edited by: MenanceWhite on 01/08/2008 10:17:47 I'm telling to make an Amarr/caldari char. How dense can you be?
Originally by: MenanceWhite FYI I remembered something like "adapt or die", by "adapt" they meant "adapt" such as "respec for gallente/minmatar". Just as much as I can tell people to "adapt or die" and by "adapt" I mean to "respec for caldari/amarr".
Originally by: MenanceWhite Or you could train amarr cruiser and try to fly a multifreq pulse maller, which did'nt get any particular boost, but should be about on-par with your thorax. I mean, its also short range big damage armor tanking thing right?
are you even reading the posts?
Just because someone ****ed in your cereals once doesn't give you the right to **** all over other people. Seriously, dropping 10s of millions of skillpoints because you think that's how you adapt (over half a year of training to be viable again, again, are you even thinking?). In return CCP could fix this broken "rebalancing act" to make blasters viable again at what they do, soloing.
On the maller issue, the maller has fundemental problems. One being that it lacks drones and second being that it lacks a damage bonus. Give it that and It'll be much better.
Also lol @ "go make amarr/caldari char". Okay I'll see you in a year when balance has changed and then i'm in the same position. Are you THAT thick? Not everyone has several accounts, so just shaft those that haven't ?
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite My characters are on the same account. My caldari char was "shafted" for the gallente char which was "shafted" for the amarr char. Think I have it any better?
Again, blame this on CCP and not us. Just because someone once ****ed on you doesn't mean that in the opposite situation you can **** on others. It's really disgusting.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 10:32:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite Edited by: MenanceWhite on 01/08/2008 10:30:52
Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: MenanceWhite My characters are on the same account. My caldari char was "shafted" for the gallente char which was "shafted" for the amarr char. Think I have it any better?
Again, blame this on CCP and not us. Just because someone once ****ed on you doesn't mean that in the opposite situation you can **** on others. It's really disgusting.
You are posting in a troll topic. Do I seem like a DEV? do you think that the DEVs are paying any attention to this topic?
Do you think that any person would pay attention to this topic that it is now? Do you think that the stuff in the devblog really will end as patchnotes?
They will read it.
Most of it will go through.
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Euriti
Gallente SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2008.08.01 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
Originally by: Euriti
Originally by: MenanceWhite My characters are on the same account. My caldari char was "shafted" for the gallente char which was "shafted" for the amarr char. Think I have it any better?
Again, blame this on CCP and not us. Just because someone once ****ed on you doesn't mean that in the opposite situation you can **** on others. It's really disgusting.
So it's ok to be the first to do the bashing but not to "return" the favor? (That is how your wording sounds to me). I do expect to see you in every "The nerf bat hit me to hard" thread, where someone is bashing the OP. And why havn't I seen you in the Caldari threads advocating the disgust of their behaviour?
Yes, bashing is disgusting, name calling is disgusting, slanter is disgusting. But it's what I see the most on these forums. Many people don't have a good counter argument, so they turn to attacking the poster instead. It's cheap and easy.
so because a few idiots bashed you once the whole gallente blasterboat population gets "ADAPT LOL" thrown in our face?
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