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Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:09:00 - [91] fixing defender missiles IS a nerf to caldari.... Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:25:00 - [92] Originally by: Red Thunder fixing defender missiles IS a nerf to caldari.... It's ok, I wouldn't expect you to understand that fixing something is not a nerf to something else.
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:29:00 - [93] Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:30:15 yes it is, if defender missiles worked properly you could completely disarm a raven with just 2 rocket launchers whos your main btw? or are you just a month year old noob? Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:39:00 - [94] Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:30:15 yes it is, if defender missiles worked properly you could completely disarm a raven with just 2 rocket launchers whos your main btw? or are you just a month year old noob? I said fix them, not over power them.
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:42:00 - [95] yea, and if they were fixed so that they dont fly all over the place and dont all go for the same target you can kill 6 cruise missiles in just 6 seconds with 2 rocket launchers, and it takes normally takes longer than that for them to reach you Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Yakia TovilToba Halliburton Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:57:00 - [96] Originally by: Red Thunder top speeds with t2 and lvl 5: vaga - 3.2kms ishtar - 2kms sac - 2.1kms rapier - 2.2kms curse - 1.8kms crow and other ceptors - 5kish dictors - 3kms seriosly ccp WTF these ships are now useless!!! vaga is too slow in orbit to evade missile damage ishtar, sac, rapier, curse are all too slow to avoid any damage even in a straight line, so there seems no point in flying them when t1 bs's have better dps, tank, and are cheaper Tbh thats still too fast. My cruise missiles have an explosion velocity of 750, after having trained the explosion velocity skill to 5. Cruise missiles are designed for fighting smaller ships than a battelship (that's why dps is cruiser/battelcruiser sized aswell). But those ships are still too fast and wouldn't take any damage, despite being cruisers. The speed should be brought down to 1-1,5kms imho.
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.08.03 17:58:00 - [97] Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:51:18 yea, and if they were fixed so that they dont fly all over the place and dont all go for the same target you can kill 6 cruise missiles in just 6 seconds with 2 rocket launchers, and it normally takes longer than that for them to reach you Think harder, I promise you won't overheat or start smoking from the ears.
Monticore D'Muertos Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2008.08.03 18:01:00 - [98] the speeds atm on test i can live with its the mass that kills the vaga add in mwd cooldown , all speed mods stacking with eachother, and the scrambler that where it gets broken.
carleyjones Caldari Blood and Silver	Posted - 2008.08.03 18:45:00 - [99] I fly nano ships fairly often and i would be the first to agree that nanos needed balancing. BS shouldnt be flying around faster than intys and hacs/recons like the ishtar and curse that could effectively not slow down while still doing full damage where all to common. But the current changes on SISI go too far tbh.
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 19:03:00 - [100] Originally by: Rumai Ning Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:51:18 yea, and if they were fixed so that they dont fly all over the place and dont all go for the same target you can kill 6 cruise missiles in just 6 seconds with 2 rocket launchers, and it normally takes longer than that for them to reach you Think harder, I promise you won't overheat or start smoking from the ears. i dont hear you saying how they should be changed, so stop trolling you noob Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines

dust queen Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2008.08.03 19:51:00 - [101] Originally by: zattariss Luuuudicrous speed! this thread has been won. please make your way towards the exits
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.08.03 19:59:00 - [102] Edited by: Rumai Ning on 03/08/2008 19:59:35 Originally by: Red Thunder Originally by: Rumai Ning Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:51:18 yea, and if they were fixed so that they dont fly all over the place and dont all go for the same target you can kill 6 cruise missiles in just 6 seconds with 2 rocket launchers, and it normally takes longer than that for them to reach you Think harder, I promise you won't overheat or start smoking from the ears. i dont hear you saying how they should be changed, so stop trolling you noob Because I would not have the first idea of how to go about it. Unlike you who thinks you've got everything figured out.
Kazuma Saruwatari Caldari	Posted - 2008.08.03 20:07:00 - [103] Originally by: Rumai Ning t2 is a luxury, not a standard. Not by the killboards it aint. T2 weapons anyone? -
Rumai Ning	Posted - 2008.08.03 20:12:00 - [104] Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari Originally by: Rumai Ning t2 is a luxury, not a standard. Not by the killboards it aint. T2 weapons anyone? Well, it's supposed to be. My mistake for not clarifying :D
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.08.03 21:06:00 - [105] Originally by: Red Thunder Originally by: Rumai Ning Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 17:51:18 yea, and if they were fixed so that they dont fly all over the place and dont all go for the same target you can kill 6 cruise missiles in just 6 seconds with 2 rocket launchers, and it normally takes longer than that for them to reach you Think harder, I promise you won't overheat or start smoking from the ears. i dont hear you saying how they should be changed, so stop trolling you noob Oh. Oh wow. Wooooowww... Did you come up with all that yourself, you illiterate piece of filth? Anyway, Yakia's suggestion is perhaps a bit on the lower side, but it's still one of the more reasonable things I've seen in this thread...
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 23:26:00 - [106] Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 23:28:05 er what? lol so what you want is a weapon that hits any target no matter what the circumstance? takes the fun out of it doesnt it... Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 23:31:00 - [107] hmmm also, why is everyone posting in this thread in a noob corp? got something to be ashamed of? or are you all actually noobs? Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Aleus Stygian	Posted - 2008.08.03 23:37:00 - [108] Originally by: Red Thunder hmmm also, why is everyone posting in this thread in a noob corp? got something to be ashamed of? or are you all actually noobs? Happening to be in a corp doesn't make you badass. One could even argue that it means that more likely you need the protection, or you're someone else's tool. And I'd mind my conciseness and argumentation if I wanted to increase my image, rather than slap on a fancy badge and name. Come on. It's not like EVE corporations have standards comparable to that of any real-life business. Not when skill points stop being factored, and the actual people behind the avatars are concerned. I've seen more than one moron ranking high in a corp.
Red Thunder Most Wanted INC G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2008.08.03 23:56:00 - [109] Originally by: Aleus Stygian Originally by: Red Thunder hmmm also, why is everyone posting in this thread in a noob corp? got something to be ashamed of? or are you all actually noobs? Happening to be in a corp doesn't make you badass. One could even argue that it means that more likely you need the protection, or you're someone else's tool. And I'd mind my conciseness and argumentation if I wanted to increase my image, rather than slap on a fancy badge and name. Come on. It's not like EVE corporations have standards comparable to that of any real-life business. Not when skill points stop being factored, and the actual people behind the avatars are concerned. I've seen more than one moron ranking high in a corp. yea you get a lot of idiots in corps, but you get more idiots in noob corps. Eagles may soar, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines
Raymond Sterns Utopian Research I.E.L. The ENTITY.	Posted - 2008.08.04 00:30:00 - [110] Originally by: Red Thunder Edited by: Red Thunder on 03/08/2008 23:28:05 er what? lol so what you want is a weapon that hits any target no matter what the circumstance? takes the fun out of it doesnt it... There is this thing called explosion velocity... Most of your ships get close to outrunning it. _

Esmenet Gallente	Posted - 2008.08.04 01:21:00 - [111] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Cruise missiles are designed for fighting smaller ships than a battelship (that's why dps is cruiser/battelcruiser sized aswell). Wrong. Vote against the nano nerf!
goodby4u Valor Inc.	Posted - 2008.08.04 07:05:00 - [112] Originally by: Red Thunder top speeds with t2 and lvl 5: vaga - 3.2kms ishtar - 2kms sac - 2.1kms rapier - 2.2kms curse - 1.8kms crow and other ceptors - 5kish dictors - 3kms seriosly ccp WTF these ships are now useless!!! vaga is too slow in orbit to evade missile damage ishtar, sac, rapier, curse are all too slow to avoid any damage even in a straight line, so there seems no point in flying them when t1 bs's have better dps, tank, and are cheaper The vaga is the only one on that list thats a cruiser and can be considered nano honestly, this saddens me even as a non nano pilot.
Tasko Pal Heron Corporation	Posted - 2008.08.04 07:33:00 - [113] Originally by: Yakia TovilToba Originally by: Red Thunder top speeds with t2 and lvl 5: vaga - 3.2kms ishtar - 2kms sac - 2.1kms rapier - 2.2kms curse - 1.8kms crow and other ceptors - 5kish dictors - 3kms seriosly ccp WTF these ships are now useless!!! vaga is too slow in orbit to evade missile damage ishtar, sac, rapier, curse are all too slow to avoid any damage even in a straight line, so there seems no point in flying them when t1 bs's have better dps, tank, and are cheaper Tbh thats still too fast. My cruise missiles have an explosion velocity of 750, after having trained the explosion velocity skill to 5. Cruise missiles are designed for fighting smaller ships than a battelship (that's why dps is cruiser/battelcruiser sized aswell). But those ships are still too fast and wouldn't take any damage, despite being cruisers. The speed should be brought down to 1-1,5kms imho. Hmmm, sounds like the problem is that you aren't using precision cruise missiles with explosion velocity (after skill) of 1,500 m/s. Even the vaga is going to take half damage (assuming it's going full speed) from those things. And come to think of it, those ships probably will often be moving slower than max speed.


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