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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 04:13:00 -
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The OP has a point.
Its a flaw in EVE really, not so much of game mechanics but of psychology of the players.
Almost no player pirate in EVE could have made it as a real pirate. Piracy is not about killing the other guy. It's about how much you can get out of the target. If a target has no value (say t1 ship and all t1 (non named) modules) then it isn't worth a real pirates time.
The most successful pirates of Earth oftentimes did not fire even a shot at the enemy. Their reputations were often such that ships surrendered cargo without problems or paid ransoms upon sighting the sails of the enemy.
What is practiced in EVE is not piracy, its butchery. They kill for the pleasure of killing irregardless of any value the target might have.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 07:46:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny
Originally by: El'Niaga The OP has a point.
Its a flaw in EVE really, not so much of game mechanics but of psychology of the players.
Almost no player pirate in EVE could have made it as a real pirate. Piracy is not about killing the other guy. It's about how much you can get out of the target. If a target has no value (say t1 ship and all t1 (non named) modules) then it isn't worth a real pirates time.
The most successful pirates of Earth oftentimes did not fire even a shot at the enemy. Their reputations were often such that ships surrendered cargo without problems or paid ransoms upon sighting the sails of the enemy.
What is practiced in EVE is not piracy, its butchery. They kill for the pleasure of killing irregardless of any value the target might have.
Get a nice little boat and go for a sail around Somalia... you'll see that real pirates are just like Eve pirates. They'll cut your throat, throw you overboard and take your boat
ONe of them might even have a stick to hit you with
I would not really consider them successful pirates.....
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.06 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 06/08/2008 07:56:56
Originally by: El'Niaga
I would not really consider them successful pirates.....
They kill you and take your stuff on the ocean... what makes a successful pirate other than that? I guess the little chinese guy burning DVDs?
The chinese guy burning DVDs as as software pilot is minimizing risk to himself while making a profit.
They'll keep doing that until someone uses a Q Ship to capture them. Then when they board the ship filled with Marines and armed to the teeth they'll be destroyed. I'll grant you that Somalia is less stable than Iraq, shame the world isn't doing much to fix the problem.
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El'Niaga
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.08.08 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Originally by: El'Niaga
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 06/08/2008 07:56:56
Originally by: El'Niaga
I would not really consider them successful pirates.....
They kill you and take your stuff on the ocean... what makes a successful pirate other than that? I guess the little chinese guy burning DVDs?
The chinese guy burning DVDs as as software pilot is minimizing risk to himself while making a profit.
They'll keep doing that until someone uses a Q Ship to capture them. Then when they board the ship filled with Marines and armed to the teeth they'll be destroyed. I'll grant you that Somalia is less stable than Iraq, shame the world isn't doing much to fix the problem.
Contrary to what you learned from Johnny Depp, pirate ships during the Age of Sail were typically outclassed in every way by naval vessels. That's why the pirates preyed on soft targets. But that is neither here nor there. Your entire argument and all subsequent arguments in this thread were destroyed when you said that the "OP has a point". The OP doesn't have a point. The OP doesn't have a clue. The OP blindly waddled into lowsec in an industrial ship without even bothering to poke his head in with a frigate to test the waters. The OP got what he deserved.
There were more than one case of a ship of the line being used to Pirate.
Most Pirates you are correct had smaller ships than their prey. They would strip out any extra stuff to make their ships faster. They were far more maneuverable than the warships of the day, and they'd stack extra cannon on board from captured ships.
The point of being a pirate is to make money. If an item only has value to its owner (such as a mission box) then the only way to get isk for it is to sell it back to them, failing to do so really isn't piracy because you lost out on an opportunity.
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